scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
part time pete wrote:People need to come to terms on how Nigel works as a manager.
Nigel’s main role is a man/people manager rather than football manager.
He runs a team of only 19 first team outfield players. What he does not want is players kicking up a fuss because they are sitting in the stands because they are not even getting on the bench.
Nigel believes a happy bunch of players play better and get better results on the pitch.
Nigel only signs players if they fit in with the group already here and they are technically better than the player who they will replace.
With regard to team selection Nigel’s philosophy is that he has a pecking order of his players. His best players are top of his list and his lesser players lower down the pecking order.
When picking a team for a game he names the top ten outfield players on his pecking order that are available and not injured.
He then gets these ten names and puts them in what he thinks are the best position to get a win. He only signs players that can play at least two different or possible more different positions.
Until fans accept this position with Nigel’s philosophy then fans are going to keep scratching their heads with team selection.
I respectfully suggest you read it again. It reads like a school report. My opinion it is totally inappropriate after three games.Stagdale wrote:I thought a fan’s message board was to give fans a forum to express their views of their team.
I think the flack ows has received is ridiculous. He is expressing his opinion on how he sees the team can be improved and I must say I agree with him 100%. Of course Nigel has improved our team but we desperately need a mobile experienced CH and ideally a proven goal scorer. That is undoubtedly what we need but whether we will achieve this is another matter.
Nigel should not be above fair criticism. We don’t all wear rose coloured spectacles when talking about Nigel unlike two regular posters on this site. For example Hawkins made a massive difference when he played up front second half on Tuesday but why did Nigel take him off? After he was subbed we lost the momentum.
Nigel has done a very good job so far but has made mistakes which some will not acknowledge. But all managers make errors!!
By the way ows can you remember the big camel coloured coat Raich Carter used to wear?
Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
I have no intention of getting involved with your spat with broomo. I'm quite happy for you two to slug it out.Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
Amber Andy wrote:I have no intention of getting involved with your spat with broomo. I'm quite happy for you two to slug it out.Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
My point is, and as always has been, that this thread is pointless and unhelpful.
Amber Andy wrote:I have no intention of getting involved with your spat with broomo. I'm quite happy for you two to slug it out.Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
My point is, and as always has been, that this thread is pointless and unhelpful.
Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
bobbystagsfan wrote:Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
Why do you care so much? You're obsessed with broomo.
Big yella wrote:bobbystagsfan wrote:Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
Why do you care so much? You're obsessed with broomo.
No, just can’t abide us all being told we all must be wrong because he once stole off the Clough’s and now feels the compulsion to tell the world and his grandma they are idiots for daring to question NC’s choice of tie.
Big yella wrote:bobbystagsfan wrote:Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
Why do you care so much? You're obsessed with broomo.
No, just can’t abide us all being told we all must be wrong because he once stole off the Clough’s and now feels the compulsion to tell the world and his grandma they are idiots for daring to question NC’s choice of tie.
bear 73 wrote:I came across a post the other day posted last season, giving Clough a Message.
I feel for all our increasd ticket holders given False hope, with our current Manager living of his Name.
We had a brilliant season took us all the way to Wmbley 2021/22.
Now 2022/23 our season tickets have broken all known records, we sit 1 point outside the play offs after 2 league games.
m1cksut wrote:bear 73 wrote:I came across a post the other day posted last season, giving Clough a Message.
I feel for all our increasd ticket holders given False hope, with our current Manager living of his Name.
We had a brilliant season took us all the way to Wmbley 2021/22.
Now 2022/23 our season tickets have broken all known records, we sit 1 point outside the play offs after 2 league games.
werent we nearly top of the league after two games last season?
gazza1988 wrote:So basically nigel clough isn't a football manager he's HR. He essentially rates players like on fifa games and then picks the 10 highest numbers and then starts at the top of the list and puts them in their strongest position.Once he gets to the bottom of the list and has 3 or 4 players left whose strongest position is already taken just gets chucked in a random other position that is spare?
Do we have like a interview or something confirming that he builds/selects his teams like this? It's very strange to have just one "masterlist of overall ability". We were told he gives youth a good chance. How can youth possibly be given a good chance on that method?
I would have thought he'd have a list of players but for each position and/or role and then pick the best player available for each spot on the field of the respective list.
Big yella wrote:bobbystagsfan wrote:Big yella wrote:And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
Why do you care so much? You're obsessed with broomo.
No, just can’t abide us all being told we all must be wrong because he once stole off the Clough’s and now feels the compulsion to tell the world and his grandma they are idiots for daring to question NC’s choice of tie.
Stagdale wrote:I thought a fan’s message board was to give fans a forum to express their views of their team.
I think the flack ows has received is ridiculous. He is expressing his opinion on how he sees the team can be improved and I must say I agree with him 100%. Of course Nigel has improved our team but we desperately need a mobile experienced CH and ideally a proven goal scorer. That is undoubtedly what we need but whether we will achieve this is another matter.
Nigel should not be above fair criticism. We don’t all wear rose coloured spectacles when talking about Nigel unlike two regular posters on this site. For example Hawkins made a massive difference when he played up front second half on Tuesday but why did Nigel take him off? After he was subbed we lost the momentum.
Nigel has done a very good job so far but has made mistakes which some will not acknowledge. But all managers make errors!!
By the way ows can you remember the big camel coloured coat Raich Carter used to wear?
Big yella wrote:bobbystagsfan wrote:Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
Why do you care so much? You're obsessed with broomo.
No, just can’t abide us all being told we all must be wrong because he once stole off the Clough’s and now feels the compulsion to tell the world and his grandma they are idiots for daring to question NC’s choice of tie.
You have got me puzzled OWS. I have read your post again. Which bit is supporting NC ? Your post reads like a school report. Basically it is telling NC he is signing the wrong players. It reads as though je has signed misfits. You could have praised him for signing two excellent midfield players. In fact you don't mention how strong our midfield is ?oldweststander wrote:Amber Andy wrote:I have no intention of getting involved with your spat with broomo. I'm quite happy for you two to slug it out.Big yella wrote:Amber Andy wrote:scotsstag wrote:Says who??
You?
It's obvious. The vast majority of Stags fans know NC is the best manager we've had in ages.
This thread is nonsensical.
And I have never said anything different, in fact I 100% agree, I don’t however believe that NC is beyond criticism like broomo does. According to him Clough NEVER gets a team selection wrong, NEVER gets tactic’s wrong, NEVER gets a substitution wrong, blah blah blah (to use his phrase).
This is a fan’s forum to discuss all things Stags, and guess what, varying opinions about the managers decision’s will be discussed and a blanket defence of every choice he makes, like I have already said is laughable.
My point is, and as always has been, that this thread is pointless and unhelpful.
My final word, my post was an opinion which had been echoed by many and equally derided by others. The post is not pointless or unhelpful, it's forum chat. The post supports Nigel Clough as our manager but points out the side isn't the finished article and that in MY opinion Bowery and Clarke will never be centre backs and a new mobile centre back is the least we need.
Nigel and others may well disagree, that's fine.
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