Elkesley Stag wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:oldweststander wrote:How about just making the facility available for away games, if that is possible.
Would help the net zero agenda a bit.
it isn't practical. Home fans who want to buy a match pass could just get it from the away club.
Register and name the club you support, get a membership number with the club code ,for example NG18 5DA , enter your code and pay your money for away games. If they are playing at home then you would be blocked. Easy enough to see if someone registers for more than one club .
Martin Shaw wrote:under discussion at the EFL AGM on Friday
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/engl ... gm-1591760
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/ ... er-7088330
pitch invasions under discussion at the EFL Board on Wednesday
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... invasions/
gazza1988 wrote:Elkesley Stag wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:oldweststander wrote:How about just making the facility available for away games, if that is possible.
Would help the net zero agenda a bit.
it isn't practical. Home fans who want to buy a match pass could just get it from the away club.
Register and name the club you support, get a membership number with the club code ,for example NG18 5DA , enter your code and pay your money for away games. If they are playing at home then you would be blocked. Easy enough to see if someone registers for more than one club .
I guarantee I could get round that very easily using only my main gmail email address.
Martin Shaw wrote:under discussion at the EFL AGM on Friday
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/engl ... gm-1591760
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sport/ ... er-7088330
Martin Shaw wrote:Good interview with Mark Palios on Radio 4 this morning
At 26 mins
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00181lg
Bradders wrote:It would be interesting to see an analysis of how the match coverage last season affected our attendances. Were Tuesday night games badly affected, bearing in mind that it was fairly easy to watch from home? My opinion is that it tends to be more than compensated for by people watching who would rarely actually visit a football ground, but I'm only guessing.
Rob wrote:Bradders wrote:It would be interesting to see an analysis of how the match coverage last season affected our attendances. Were Tuesday night games badly affected, bearing in mind that it was fairly easy to watch from home? My opinion is that it tends to be more than compensated for by people watching who would rarely actually visit a football ground, but I'm only guessing.
That's not what this is about Bradders, as Palios points out. The issue isn't about small gains right now, which there may well be. Saturday afternoons must remain sacrosanct and whilst of course folk can illegally stream Sat afternoon Prem games, most people don't. I have absolutely no problem with midweek away games being made available (maybe to proven "members"), I'm undecided about home midweek games to be honest.
Bradders wrote:Rob wrote:Bradders wrote:It would be interesting to see an analysis of how the match coverage last season affected our attendances. Were Tuesday night games badly affected, bearing in mind that it was fairly easy to watch from home? My opinion is that it tends to be more than compensated for by people watching who would rarely actually visit a football ground, but I'm only guessing.
That's not what this is about Bradders, as Palios points out. The issue isn't about small gains right now, which there may well be. Saturday afternoons must remain sacrosanct and whilst of course folk can illegally stream Sat afternoon Prem games, most people don't. I have absolutely no problem with midweek away games being made available (maybe to proven "members"), I'm undecided about home midweek games to be honest.
Fair enough, but bear in mind that there are hordes of football fans who were regular visitors to their club on a Saturday afternoon and are now no longer able to make the trip. It seems irrational that they are denied access to a live stream, despite it being streamed for the public and despite being willing to pay, and despite the club receiving a cut.
Almost all Stagsnet contributors will be in this position sooner or later!
oldweststander wrote:Bradders wrote:Rob wrote:Bradders wrote:It would be interesting to see an analysis of how the match coverage last season affected our attendances. Were Tuesday night games badly affected, bearing in mind that it was fairly easy to watch from home? My opinion is that it tends to be more than compensated for by people watching who would rarely actually visit a football ground, but I'm only guessing.
That's not what this is about Bradders, as Palios points out. The issue isn't about small gains right now, which there may well be. Saturday afternoons must remain sacrosanct and whilst of course folk can illegally stream Sat afternoon Prem games, most people don't. I have absolutely no problem with midweek away games being made available (maybe to proven "members"), I'm undecided about home midweek games to be honest.
Fair enough, but bear in mind that there are hordes of football fans who were regular visitors to their club on a Saturday afternoon and are now no longer able to make the trip. It seems irrational that they are denied access to a live stream, despite it being streamed for the public and despite being willing to pay, and despite the club receiving a cut.
Almost all Stagsnet contributors will be in this position sooner or later!
That is my argument too but the football finance experts on Stagsnet disagree.
Sedgwick wrote:oldweststander wrote:Bradders wrote:Rob wrote:Bradders wrote:It would be interesting to see an analysis of how the match coverage last season affected our attendances. Were Tuesday night games badly affected, bearing in mind that it was fairly easy to watch from home? My opinion is that it tends to be more than compensated for by people watching who would rarely actually visit a football ground, but I'm only guessing.
That's not what this is about Bradders, as Palios points out. The issue isn't about small gains right now, which there may well be. Saturday afternoons must remain sacrosanct and whilst of course folk can illegally stream Sat afternoon Prem games, most people don't. I have absolutely no problem with midweek away games being made available (maybe to proven "members"), I'm undecided about home midweek games to be honest.
Fair enough, but bear in mind that there are hordes of football fans who were regular visitors to their club on a Saturday afternoon and are now no longer able to make the trip. It seems irrational that they are denied access to a live stream, despite it being streamed for the public and despite being willing to pay, and despite the club receiving a cut.
Almost all Stagsnet contributors will be in this position sooner or later!
That is my argument too but the football finance experts on Stagsnet disagree.
A lot of Football fans don't live near their hometown club, I think if you can prove your address you should have access to a code to watch the game for the price of an average ticket.
I think the £10 fee is quite low.. good for the fan but how much does the club get? although anything extra is a plus if the distant fans only other option is twitter updates
oldweststander wrote:£8, it had been stated, for the home club up to 500, passes sold, then the away side gets a cut because many subscribers may be away supporters if the number exceeds 500.
oldweststander wrote:Bradders wrote:Rob wrote:Bradders wrote:It would be interesting to see an analysis of how the match coverage last season affected our attendances. Were Tuesday night games badly affected, bearing in mind that it was fairly easy to watch from home? My opinion is that it tends to be more than compensated for by people watching who would rarely actually visit a football ground, but I'm only guessing.
That's not what this is about Bradders, as Palios points out. The issue isn't about small gains right now, which there may well be. Saturday afternoons must remain sacrosanct and whilst of course folk can illegally stream Sat afternoon Prem games, most people don't. I have absolutely no problem with midweek away games being made available (maybe to proven "members"), I'm undecided about home midweek games to be honest.
Fair enough, but bear in mind that there are hordes of football fans who were regular visitors to their club on a Saturday afternoon and are now no longer able to make the trip. It seems irrational that they are denied access to a live stream, despite it being streamed for the public and despite being willing to pay, and despite the club receiving a cut.
Almost all Stagsnet contributors will be in this position sooner or later!
That is my argument too but the football finance experts on Stagsnet disagree.
oldweststander wrote:Thanks Martin.
Maybe the cost could be adjusted slightly upward but £8 income from someone who would not have attended, live, isn't bad. Money out of the blue so to speak.
On a different topic, any opinions on EFL moving to ITV?
Thought Quest did a fair job.
Rob wrote:oldweststander wrote:Bradders wrote:Rob wrote:Bradders wrote:It would be interesting to see an analysis of how the match coverage last season affected our attendances. Were Tuesday night games badly affected, bearing in mind that it was fairly easy to watch from home? My opinion is that it tends to be more than compensated for by people watching who would rarely actually visit a football ground, but I'm only guessing.
That's not what this is about Bradders, as Palios points out. The issue isn't about small gains right now, which there may well be. Saturday afternoons must remain sacrosanct and whilst of course folk can illegally stream Sat afternoon Prem games, most people don't. I have absolutely no problem with midweek away games being made available (maybe to proven "members"), I'm undecided about home midweek games to be honest.
Fair enough, but bear in mind that there are hordes of football fans who were regular visitors to their club on a Saturday afternoon and are now no longer able to make the trip. It seems irrational that they are denied access to a live stream, despite it being streamed for the public and despite being willing to pay, and despite the club receiving a cut.
Almost all Stagsnet contributors will be in this position sooner or later!
That is my argument too but the football finance experts on Stagsnet disagree.
And most EFL Chairmen, who also disagree with you, hence it wasn't even discussed.
adamstag wrote:It’s exactly that.
Itd be like a turkey voting for christmas, it would be a terrible idea.
Of course it’s unfortunate for those who aren’t close or maybe not able to get but that’s just life.
If i were a chairman and this was put to me i’d burst out laughing and wave you out the door.
Sedgwick wrote:adamstag wrote:It’s exactly that.
Itd be like a turkey voting for christmas, it would be a terrible idea.
Of course it’s unfortunate for those who aren’t close or maybe not able to get but that’s just life.
If i were a chairman and this was put to me i’d burst out laughing and wave you out the door.
I think having read the arguments... it makes sense to keep it for midweek games and the international break. I think the one offs/ every now and then fixtures don't disturb the attendances but if it was regular it would, I could totally see people going round the sit in their mates garden to watch it for £10.
Agree its unfortunate for those not close, but I don't think our fan base is big enough to really benefit having the choice to stream, makes sense if you're a global team.
I know a fair few like myself who definitely wont be going to every home game but have bought a season ticket anyway
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