eggy wrote:Difficult to know whether to support this or not, without an idea of pricing etc. which might shift the balance of positive/negative for clubs.
Perhaps worth trying as an experiment for a season to see if the increased revenue (fans from farther afield who wouldn't travel to games) outweighs the decreased revenue (fans who might've gone if it wasn't streamed).
Rob wrote:We saw in lockdown how soul-less football was without fans, now we have people on here who "can't see a downside" to allowing every game to be live streamed, which for anyone with basic IT knowledge, means available for free. I can only guess those who think it is a good idea have no idea how to stream these games for free and hence think everyone who watches it are paying for it .......
Watching games live is a thousand times better than watching it on a computer screen. If it comes in we'll be back to the hardcore and the 3k "fair-weather" folk who are now attending games will choose the simple option of watching at home or indeed wherever they might be.
It's shocking to me that so many of you think it is a good idea, I'll soon be sat on my own in the Mill, Face Timing my lads telling them how things used to be, the songs we used to sing, the abuse we used to give oppo players and managers, the song about coming on a skateboard we sung to Crawley/Sutton/Harrogate etc, how crap the pies were etc, etc. I want my kids and future grand kids to watch football live, not on a screen, which they use for almost everything else in their lives.
I'm flipping out, its a big fat shitting no from me, but it will happen anyway.
BH_Stag wrote:Agree with Rob - keep the blackout.
In the lower leagues we should be focusing on finding ways to incentivise more people to go to watch games live at the ground, not making it easier for people to decide against it because they can watch it from afar.
stagsfan6493 wrote:BH_Stag wrote:Agree with Rob - keep the blackout.
In the lower leagues we should be focusing on finding ways to incentivise more people to go to watch games live at the ground, not making it easier for people to decide against it because they can watch it from afar.
At £10 a game you would be incentivising local people to watch games from the sofa as well.
Terrible idea!
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:There’s nothing worse than sitting next to a boozed up fan who comes late and constantly wants to go to the toilet. Who bellows down your ears about any subject that only he can see fault with then constantly stands up and flings his arms wide whilst looking away from the pitch and wanting to fight the world. I refer to them as male as very few women display this type of behaviour. They no doubt consider this to be the full match day experience and can’t see why they are spoiling things for people who just want to watch the match.
Don’t get me wrong, I also sometimes shout at the ref/opposition but hope I do it in a manner which does not spoil the view/experience for others. Although I’m at the wrong end of my 60’s I still feel fit enough to attend and enjoy but am thankful I don’t have to prove my macho image like some who are clearly past it and should retire gracefully.
It is each to their own but I attend to watch a football match and support my team. The last thing I want is a boozey boys day out and if streaming diminishes that experience then please bring it on.
Sneag wrote:The damage could be immense. Look at last season tge number of match passes v the average home attendance this season.
This season, 3-4 times as many people turnex up to the ground as bought passes last season & a match pass was less than half the price of a match ticket.
To be financislly net zero for clubs at our level, they'd need to price a matchday iFollow pass at around £75.
The other risk to clubs is that if a Cash League game is kicking off at 3pm on Sky that will take casual support away from small struggling clubs especially in the bleak mid winter.
Sneag wrote:The damage could be immense. Look at last season tge number of match passes v the average home attendance this season.
This season, 3-4 times as many people turnex up to the ground as bought passes last season & a match pass was less than half the price of a match ticket.
To be financislly net zero for clubs at our level, they'd need to price a matchday iFollow pass at around £75.
The other risk to clubs is that if a Cash League game is kicking off at 3pm on Sky that will take casual support away from small struggling clubs especially in the bleak mid winter.
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:Sneag wrote:The damage could be immense. Look at last season tge number of match passes v the average home attendance this season.
This season, 3-4 times as many people turnex up to the ground as bought passes last season & a match pass was less than half the price of a match ticket.
To be financislly net zero for clubs at our level, they'd need to price a matchday iFollow pass at around £75.
The other risk to clubs is that if a Cash League game is kicking off at 3pm on Sky that will take casual support away from small struggling clubs especially in the bleak mid winter.
But doesn’t that support the theory that it won’t damage attendances if more turn up to the actual game? If you are suggesting there were lots streaming without paying, surely they could do that now. By turning up it suggests people will still want to attend home matches no matter what. I concede it will probably hit fan numbers travelling to away games more but the club doesn’t get revenue from those anyway.
BH_Stag wrote:Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:There’s nothing worse than sitting next to a boozed up fan who comes late and constantly wants to go to the toilet. Who bellows down your ears about any subject that only he can see fault with then constantly stands up and flings his arms wide whilst looking away from the pitch and wanting to fight the world. I refer to them as male as very few women display this type of behaviour. They no doubt consider this to be the full match day experience and can’t see why they are spoiling things for people who just want to watch the match.
Don’t get me wrong, I also sometimes shout at the ref/opposition but hope I do it in a manner which does not spoil the view/experience for others. Although I’m at the wrong end of my 60’s I still feel fit enough to attend and enjoy but am thankful I don’t have to prove my macho image like some who are clearly past it and should retire gracefully.
It is each to their own but I attend to watch a football match and support my team. The last thing I want is a boozey boys day out and if streaming diminishes that experience then please bring it on.
Don’t see any correlation here whatsoever in my opinion.
gazza1988 wrote:stagsfan6493 wrote:BH_Stag wrote:Agree with Rob - keep the blackout.
In the lower leagues we should be focusing on finding ways to incentivise more people to go to watch games live at the ground, not making it easier for people to decide against it because they can watch it from afar.
At £10 a game you would be incentivising local people to watch games from the sofa as well.
Terrible idea!
Thats why it'd mean a increase in the cost of ifollow.
Right now it is not impossible for fans to watch every game for less than £10 on a Saturday 3pm. It's €11 a game. (at exchange rate at the time of post is £9.25). You can but a month pass for €30 (£25.24). You can also pay for the year and get every game home and away for a certain amount (I can't see it at time of posting, but a Google search says the equivalent of £140.... For 46 games.)
I highly doubt that the prices will stay the same if the blackout is lifted.
stagsfan6493 wrote:BH_Stag wrote:Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:There’s nothing worse than sitting next to a boozed up fan who comes late and constantly wants to go to the toilet. Who bellows down your ears about any subject that only he can see fault with then constantly stands up and flings his arms wide whilst looking away from the pitch and wanting to fight the world. I refer to them as male as very few women display this type of behaviour. They no doubt consider this to be the full match day experience and can’t see why they are spoiling things for people who just want to watch the match.
Don’t get me wrong, I also sometimes shout at the ref/opposition but hope I do it in a manner which does not spoil the view/experience for others. Although I’m at the wrong end of my 60’s I still feel fit enough to attend and enjoy but am thankful I don’t have to prove my macho image like some who are clearly past it and should retire gracefully.
It is each to their own but I attend to watch a football match and support my team. The last thing I want is a boozey boys day out and if streaming diminishes that experience then please bring it on.
Don’t see any correlation here whatsoever in my opinion.
Typical nonsense post from Sandy
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:But you can stream on a Saturday if you do it on an illegal stream.
That tells me that attending the ground is still more popular and groups don’t watch in sheds etc. If they just wanted to save money, they could do that now.
I think the ones who are less likely to attend will be the ones who go purely to watch the match not the ones who go for a drink with their mates.
If they are going to broadcast live, they will need more than one camera and a more professional set up and editing or it won’t attract enough to make a big difference to crowd numbers.
Spiritater wrote:Great post Rob. Live, in a crowd, sharing the highs and lows with folk, the 'whole day' thing, the cheering, the jeering.
Or sat in your bedroom on your own with a cup of tea and a HobNob or two staring at a screen
Return to Stagsnet Main Discussion Forum
Users browsing this forum: bob ledgers barber, Bros, dublin_stag, Elkesley Stag, Frankenstag, oldweststander, RISE PARK STAG, Roger_Sausage, SCStag, Stockportstag, Tippy Tappy Football and 448 guests