arsene wengers coat wrote:You have to ask what the point of our Youth system is.
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lifestags wrote:PS-we pick players up from other academies at age 14/15 still classed as our ''youth team'' right?
arsene wengers coat wrote:
Martin, there's an argument that Sinclair and Law aren't our academy products as we picked them up after their release from other clubs.
lifestags wrote:the thing is though, you just need 1 to make it worth your while
so lets say we sell Sinclair for 250k (minimum)
that would cover the cost of the youth team for a while, wouldn't it?
PS-we pick players up from other academies at age 14/15 still classed as our ''youth team'' right?
Sedgwick wrote:lifestags wrote:the thing is though, you just need 1 to make it worth your while
so lets say we sell Sinclair for 250k (minimum)
that would cover the cost of the youth team for a while, wouldn't it?
PS-we pick players up from other academies at age 14/15 still classed as our ''youth team'' right?
Could sell him for a lot more than that and you'd still be losing money, because of all the money spent on previous kids that have been through the system plus education. Only the club really knows this. Imagine it gets harder year on year.
Was it Exeter that sold Watkins for 6 million but they'd spent a few more million on the academy as whole since he joined it at age 10 in 2006 or something like that? Price of football had the example
As time goes on, the sales figure becomes meaningless because unless you're regularly brining a player or two through a year and selling them you'd never catch up vs the cost of the academy unless the whole youth set up cost hardly anything.
Yes if we pick up other released players they can still come through our youth team, most players are picked up at exit trials. We don't need to sign them off a Sunday league club to be "ours"
lifestags wrote:Sedgwick wrote:lifestags wrote:the thing is though, you just need 1 to make it worth your while
so lets say we sell Sinclair for 250k (minimum)
that would cover the cost of the youth team for a while, wouldn't it?
PS-we pick players up from other academies at age 14/15 still classed as our ''youth team'' right?
Could sell him for a lot more than that and you'd still be losing money, because of all the money spent on previous kids that have been through the system plus education. Only the club really knows this. Imagine it gets harder year on year.
Was it Exeter that sold Watkins for 6 million but they'd spent a few more million on the academy as whole since he joined it at age 10 in 2006 or something like that? Price of football had the example
As time goes on, the sales figure becomes meaningless because unless you're regularly brining a player or two through a year and selling them you'd never catch up vs the cost of the academy unless the whole youth set up cost hardly anything.
Yes if we pick up other released players they can still come through our youth team, most players are picked up at exit trials. We don't need to sign them off a Sunday league club to be "ours"
Good points, however, surely if we are picking lads up at 14/15 this would reduce costs? Not having to bring them through from 6 years+ and its just the cost of scholarships
Sedgwick wrote:Ill also add because of the above "We've had success at youth level, but if that doesn't translate to first team benefit then is it worth the investment?"
Rawson and Gordon played the top level of youth football and are league two players... some others like Max Bird, lee Buchanan, Jayden Bogle, Louie Sibley etc from the same set up have played higher but most at the top of youth football find themselves at league two/one level.. Luke Thomas another.
The success our kids have had is at a much lower level. Much much lower. Our youth team success just isn't even on a level playing field with the standard of league two, its not even close, for those wondering why our youth league champions aren't walking into the first team.
It will take time to bring the right lads through but the chances of it happening regularly are quite slim. I think we have a good youth set up that can do it (develop kids for the first team)
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Listened to the first few episodes of the new series of The Hard Truth. Darragh MacAnthony said that a young 18 year old Premier League player is earning £42k per week and during the summer he was offered out on loan to Peterborough as a favour at the bargain price of £15k per week.
MacAnthony rightly told them to raspberry off.
chip63 wrote:On the bench today against Kilmarnock, think it's his first time in the squad.
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