Woodclanger 1 wrote:Never easy wrote:Not all Notts miners scabbed let me just add !
If you read this board it seems none did, strange really?
Not strange at all if you think about it.
Woodclanger 1 wrote:Never easy wrote:Not all Notts miners scabbed let me just add !
If you read this board it seems none did, strange really?
Field Mill wrote:You could of course argue that the Town has form in siding with the far right. After all, they sided with lady Thatcher over the pit strike. That said, I don't think there's anything right wing about wanting to be out of Europe. Mansfield, like many post industrial places voted leave to lash out at the political elites and their thirty years of 'centre ground' policies which translates as rapacious free market capitalism and the subsequent destruction of the UK manufacturing base.
Marky Mark wrote:I was the person quoted in the article who worked with Tony Evans to give him a little insight - I thought it was going to be a bit more of a 'why have people in Mansfield voted Brexit' type article than one that links working class football fans and politics, and saw my chance to put a few records straight, but I don't think it affected the end result.
What I was attempting to get across was that Mansfield in the last 40 years had a very big role in the country's prosperity, we powered the country through coal, our hosiery industry clothed the women and when you went out night the pint you drank had our name on it. Why wouldn't you be proud to say that you were from Mansfield? We were even partly responsible for the dance music boom in the 90s with Renaissance being conceived in Mansfield.
Over the last 40 years this has gradually eroded; the pits closed (they were always going to), the intertwined engineering business closed, the hosiery factories closed (they were always going to) and the brewery closed - not only did the brewery close but the charred remains of the body is still there as a warning. The manufacturing spine went out of the area and with it went a large part of our reason to be proud of the area and our identity, and that is why the football club is increasingly more important to the identity of the area - at least we have that, and our league status, and a ground that isn't out of town and plastic. After an era when you could point to why we were different the industry was razed to the ground and we were spat out into an increasingly globalised world with no discernible features remaining, and nothing to set us and our inhabitants apart from other similar sized identikit provincial towns with exactly the same ring-roads, out of town retail parks and education and training - you're exactly the same as Chesterfield, as Stoke, as Wakefield, as Doncaster. Competing with Shrewsbury for a call-centre on the graves of our old pits. The only thing that has changed is that they've made the roads wider so that people can get out quicker. No-one ever asked anyone from Mansfield whether they wanted to compete with Shrewsbury for a call centre - they just took our industry and expected us to do it.
Our area had mass local immigration before immigration was trendy, miners coming from all over the country to help mine coal - Ollerton is testament to that, in the 60s and 70s loads of miners from the North East and Scotland coming down to work there and then staying and their kids had kids. There were loads of Polish working there in the 80s too. Immigration is welcomed in times of prosperity, in times when there's enough work to share around, Mansfield welcomes you to share our prosperity - I voted Remain but was saying that Mansfield is no more anti-outsiders than anywhere else, so don't come trying to make out that the leave vote was all because of outsiders. The town voted Leave because successions of governments have steam rollered over us despite how we've voted, took our vote for granted and changed absolutely nothing for us, the economy was already knackered for us before the credit crunch came along, and austerity made it worse - all of that just gave it the sense of having something to blame it on. When actually we would always have been ignored.
Sneag wrote:Woodclanger 1 wrote:Never easy wrote:Not all Notts miners scabbed let me just add !
If you read this board it seems none did, strange really?
Not strange at all if you think about it.
Woodclanger 1 wrote:Sneag wrote:Woodclanger 1 wrote:Never easy wrote:Not all Notts miners scabbed let me just add !
If you read this board it seems none did, strange really?
Not strange at all if you think about it.
I have thought and still find it strange.
Field Mill wrote:voted leave to lash out at the political elites
Field Mill wrote:You could of course argue that the Town has form in siding with the far right. After all, they sided with lady Thatcher over the pit strike. That said, I don't think there's anything right wing about wanting to be out of Europe. Mansfield, like many post industrial places voted leave to lash out at the political elites and their thirty years of 'centre ground' policies which translates as rapacious free market capitalism and the subsequent destruction of the UK manufacturing base.
Field Mill wrote:You could of course argue that the Town has form in siding with the far right. After all, they sided with lady Thatcher over the pit strike. That said, I don't think there's anything right wing about wanting to be out of Europe. Mansfield, like many post industrial places voted leave to lash out at the political elites and their thirty years of 'centre ground' policies which translates as rapacious free market capitalism and the subsequent destruction of the UK manufacturing base.
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