Tre Cool wrote:Burton's best player in their history, one of the top goalscorers... Why is he so dog turd for us?
Sneag wrote:Tre Cool wrote:Burton's best player in their history, one of the top goalscorers... Why is he so dog turd for us?
The march of time.
Tre Cool wrote:Sneag wrote:Tre Cool wrote:Burton's best player in their history, one of the top goalscorers... Why is he so dog turd for us?
The march of time.
Was at Burton 12 months ago. Bloke is younger than me. I'm of a footballers age and relatively fit. (No can't do 90minutes in league 2) Maybe Burton played to his strengths, which Clough should know, but somehow Mansfield make him look bang average. Just like Johnson, Daryl Clare, George Pilkington, Matt Tipton, Matty Blair et all. Mansfield, making good players Shiße!
Eastern Green Stag wrote:Akins is like Bambi on ice
bobbystagsfan wrote:Tre Cool wrote:Sneag wrote:Tre Cool wrote:Burton's best player in their history, one of the top goalscorers... Why is he so dog turd for us?
The march of time.
Was at Burton 12 months ago. Bloke is younger than me. I'm of a footballers age and relatively fit. (No can't do 90minutes in league 2) Maybe Burton played to his strengths, which Clough should know, but somehow Mansfield make him look bang average. Just like Johnson, Daryl Clare, George Pilkington, Matt Tipton, Matty Blair et all. Mansfield, making good players Shiße!
I thought Matty Blair was decent for us, was just annoying he was just about to return from his injury and pissed off to Donny.
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I also think Akins gets more stick than he deserves. Ok he struggles to initially control the ball but overall is no worse than many of the others. He is more awkward than unskilled and his style is not pretty to watch but he generally holds the play up adequately.
I would have started Hewitt but would also start Akins ahead of Gordon who is too lightweight against physical teams like Sutton.
scotsstag wrote:Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I also think Akins gets more stick than he deserves. Ok he struggles to initially control the ball but overall is no worse than many of the others. He is more awkward than unskilled and his style is not pretty to watch but he generally holds the play up adequately.
I would have started Hewitt but would also start Akins ahead of Gordon who is too lightweight against physical teams like Sutton.
You do not condemn Akins for being poor as that is your opinion but in the same post refer to him as "struggles to control a ball", "awkward" and "generally adequate" is this really the type of player we need to be giving a long contract in the twilight of his career???
I for one say no it isn't.
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:scotsstag wrote:Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I also think Akins gets more stick than he deserves. Ok he struggles to initially control the ball but overall is no worse than many of the others. He is more awkward than unskilled and his style is not pretty to watch but he generally holds the play up adequately.
I would have started Hewitt but would also start Akins ahead of Gordon who is too lightweight against physical teams like Sutton.
You do not condemn Akins for being poor as that is your opinion but in the same post refer to him as "struggles to control a ball", "awkward" and "generally adequate" is this really the type of player we need to be giving a long contract in the twilight of his career???
I for one say no it isn't.
Isn’t that the standard for an average league 2 player? It’s not a case of should we sign that type of player as he is already here and has a contract so your question and position are irrelevant. Nigel Clough thinks he should be here so that’s all that matters.
Now if you had asked if I think he is good enough to regularly play in a promotion winning side then my answer would be no I don’t. He is not that poor to be in danger of relegating a team and as I said is adequate. He is certainly not the devil incarnate as some would have us believe and I stand by my assessment that he is getting more stick than he actually deserves.
MTFCMusings wrote:The conversation around Akins always seems to be ‘he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch today’ or ‘why are you singling him out of a poor performance’. Probably fair comments at times.
The issue for me is, how often in his time here has he put in a performance that was anything more than average? Probably two or three times max?
For a player we seemingly chased through three transfer windows, it’s hard to see so far what the fuss was about.
James wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:The conversation around Akins always seems to be ‘he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch today’ or ‘why are you singling him out of a poor performance’. Probably fair comments at times.
The issue for me is, how often in his time here has he put in a performance that was anything more than average? Probably two or three times max?
For a player we seemingly chased through three transfer windows, it’s hard to see so far what the fuss was about.
I’m far from one to slag Akins off, but does anyone actually know his best position for us? I include Clough in that, bearing in mind he said he was one of our main strikers in pre season, but started him at wing back yesterday when we had other players who could play there…
James wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:The conversation around Akins always seems to be ‘he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch today’ or ‘why are you singling him out of a poor performance’. Probably fair comments at times.
The issue for me is, how often in his time here has he put in a performance that was anything more than average? Probably two or three times max?
For a player we seemingly chased through three transfer windows, it’s hard to see so far what the fuss was about.
I’m far from one to slag Akins off, but does anyone actually know his best position for us? I include Clough in that, bearing in mind he said he was one of our main strikers in pre season, but started him at wing back yesterday when we had other players who could play there…
MTFCMusings wrote:James wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:The conversation around Akins always seems to be ‘he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch today’ or ‘why are you singling him out of a poor performance’. Probably fair comments at times.
The issue for me is, how often in his time here has he put in a performance that was anything more than average? Probably two or three times max?
For a player we seemingly chased through three transfer windows, it’s hard to see so far what the fuss was about.
I’m far from one to slag Akins off, but does anyone actually know his best position for us? I include Clough in that, bearing in mind he said he was one of our main strikers in pre season, but started him at wing back yesterday when we had other players who could play there…
It’s one of wing back, right wing or striker, but I couldn’t tell you which. He’s played all of them for us and I’m still none the wiser.
James wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:James wrote:MTFCMusings wrote:The conversation around Akins always seems to be ‘he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch today’ or ‘why are you singling him out of a poor performance’. Probably fair comments at times.
The issue for me is, how often in his time here has he put in a performance that was anything more than average? Probably two or three times max?
For a player we seemingly chased through three transfer windows, it’s hard to see so far what the fuss was about.
I’m far from one to slag Akins off, but does anyone actually know his best position for us? I include Clough in that, bearing in mind he said he was one of our main strikers in pre season, but started him at wing back yesterday when we had other players who could play there…
It’s one of wing back, right wing or striker, but I couldn’t tell you which. He’s played all of them for us and I’m still none the wiser.
I don’t blame Clough for buying him, he obviously trusts him and that’s what a lot of managers do when they go somewhere, especially somewhere where expectation is fairly high. The problem is with Akins, is that we already had a player like him in Bowery who will do a job in a few different positions and in reality, Akins has showed nothing to suggest he’s any better than him.
I think he can do a job up front, and thought he did okay against Salford & Tranmere up there. But he should never be on the right hand side. A team chasing promotion needs a lot more quality out there.
Realitycheck82 wrote:He's one of our best payed players....if not the best payed! I wouldn't put him in my sunday league team!
bear 73 wrote:Akins coming from Burton has upset a few gaining promotion from league 2 he has done it.
Blimey gaining promotion from league 1 he has done it.
Playing Championship football he has done it.
He has nothing to prove , he has been there and done it, Clough knows what a players he is and if some people are annoyed because he looks gangly and awkward.
He is part of a squad that has been sucsessful at Mansfield and improved our league standing, and by many experts have a very good squad.
A smooth silky player he is not, just a hard working guy giving 100%
He came injured, he has not replaced any one just joined the squad, and this season had a groin problem, which can be hard to shale off.
Most of the time he is helping defence, 90 % of the time he gets the ball while marked,
The latest meltdown Sutton he had no part in their first goal, he was not on the pitch for their second goal.
And he did not play at Leyton Orient.
If he plays or not he will get my support he is after all a Mansfield Town player
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