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Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby Showaddywaddy » Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:16 pm

What would your first choice eleven be once we get Clarke and Harbottle back? If we stick with a back 4 and go with the diamond, I think it would look like that, for me Law would be very close
to starting over Boateng at present. Who starts at the base though? For me that’s Maris’s best position but is that also Reed’s position?

I’m not necessarily the biggest fan of a back 5 but the below looks really strong to me. Being greedy I’d like to add a new striker to challenge Oates and Swan. I think the business we’ve done so far in January is excellent.

Be interested to see other peoples first choice eleven and preferred formation.



Pym

Johnson Hewitt Kilgour McLaughlin

Reed
Maris Quinn
Boateng

Oates Swan

Or:

Pym

Johnson Harbottle Kilgour Hewitt McLaughlin

Maris Reed Clarke

Oates Swan
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby St Hilary Stag » Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:27 pm

pym
hewitt - kilgòur - harbottle
johnson - maris - reed - clarke - macca
oates - johnson

flinders
boateng
perch
swan
law
o'toole
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby Cleveland_Stag » Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:36 pm

Pym

Johnson Hewitt Kilgour Macca

Reed

Clarke Boateng

Maris

Oates Swan


I think Quinn would be more effective at this point in his career being an impact sub who plays the last 20-30 minutes of games. I also think we’ll sign one more attacking player, whether it be a striker or attacking midfielder who comes in and starts regularly soon enough.
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby georgefostersbeard » Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:29 pm

I would start Boateng and take him off after 60.
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby Richard Cranium » Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:23 pm

442 diamond
Pym
Johnson Kilgour Hewitt Macca
Reed
Boatang Clarke
Maris
Oates Swan

433
Pym
Johnson Kilgour Hewitt Macca
Clarke Reed Maris
Swan Akins Oates
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby AshoverStag » Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:40 pm

Looking at them all id say showaddywaddy’s second pick

Pym

Johnson Harbottle Kilgour Hewitt McLaughlin

Maris Reed Clarke

Oates Swan

On paper I don’t think it can be beat

Both LWB and RWB show pace and can cross

Hewitt and Harbottle have pace for CH outside pairing

Kilgour is the solid middle man, no nonsense

Really battling 3 in the middle who have all shown they can pass, create and score

Pace of Oates and swan ( not played too wide though )
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby gazza1988 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:36 pm

Macca and Harbottle have/had injuries recently. Now do a side with those 2 injured.
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby Showaddywaddy » Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:52 pm

gazza1988 wrote:Macca and Harbottle have/had injuries recently. Now do a side with those 2 injured.


I totally agree with the point you’re making Gazza. If you go with a back five and Harbottle is out injured either Perch or O’Toole have to come in and that in my opinion already weakens us. If Macca is injured again then it really scuppers either a back four or back five. Wallace or Bowery have played there but not well, more likely it means rejigging positions. Either Hewitt goes LB/LWB which means you need to plug CB with either Perch or O’Toole and then you’ve weakened two positions. Have I read somewhere than Johnson can also play LB/LWB? If so that means you bring Gordon back in at RB/RWB or you move Hewitt across to RB/RWB and again have to plug CB with either Perch or O’Toole. Essentially Macca is more or less a single point of failure. It’s a very long winded way of saying we could really use another LB/LWB to cover and actually challenge Macca for that position. I would be very surprised if we sign one though.
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby AshoverStag » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:17 pm

gazza1988 wrote:Macca and Harbottle have/had injuries recently. Now do a side with those 2 injured.



Read the first post start - What would your first choice eleven be once we get Clarke and Harbottle back?

So that back 5 is relevant to the question Showaddywaddy asked Gazza.

Yes in its all a case of ifs and buts in reality

Injuries happen. But as the thread title asked, if fit I’d go with the second team he picked

If the thread title had Been “Name best team, taking into account injuries “ I’d have posted one
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby gazza1988 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:55 pm

1st XI:

GK: Pym

RWB: C.Johnson
3CB: Hewitt Harbottle Kilgour
LWB: McLaughlin

2CM: Clarke Reed
1AM: Maris

2CF: Swan D.Johnson

2nd XI:

GK: Flinders

RWB: Gordon
3CB: O'Toole Perch Bowery(I hope it doesn't get this bad though)
LWB: Wallace

2CM: Boeteng Quinn
1AM: Law

2CF: Oates Akins

Leaves us with Gale and Knowles outside those 2 sides (Adam Collin too, I guess). Might have missed someone, With Reed essentially replacing Hartigan I haven't included him.
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby broomo » Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:07 pm

gazza1988 wrote:1st XI:

GK: Pym

RWB: C.Johnson
3CB: Hewitt Harbottle Kilgour
LWB: McLaughlin

2CM: Clarke Reed
1AM: Maris

2CF: Swan D.Johnson

2nd XI:

GK: Flinders

RWB: Gordon
3CB: O'Toole Perch Bowery(I hope it doesn't get this bad though)
LWB: Wallace

2CM: Boeteng Quinn
1AM: Law

2CF: Oates Akins

Leaves us with Gale and Knowles outside those 2 sides (Adam Collin too, I guess). Might have missed someone, With Reed essentially replacing Hartigan I haven't included him.


When (if) they are all fully fit there's 4 out of the 22 who don't even make the matchday squad.

Back to looking like a strong 18.

Who misses out?

For me it's Gordon, O'Toole, Law and hate to say it but Bowery.
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby geoffhill » Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:28 pm

Agree with Broomo.I think Akins would play well up front with Oates.
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby gazza1988 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:44 pm

I can certainly appreciate that broomo and I get it. I've no issue with he quantity of players we have, even the quality. My issue is how those squad "slots" are distributed. We have a distinct lack of "fitness" down our left. I should clear up what I mean by fitness. Macca is injured fairly often, Page (out of contract at the moment) has picked up an injury immediately (not coughs fault, I'd rather he took risk on our weak side than not taking one at all) and Quinn doesn't have the fitness anymore to play often enough. Law can't get to LWB ahead of Hewitt Akins and Bowery so maybe he's not ready?

The 2nd XI is a "bench pool" so 7 of those go on the bench.

1 from each category and then 1 extra. For me in that system on the bench I'd have GK, RWB, CB, LWB, CM, AM, CF. That way you've got cover for all the positions should the need arise.
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby Costastag » Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:11 pm

442 Pym then a back four of johnson harbottle kilgour hew!tt ,clarke maris law reed johnson oates
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Re: Best Formation / Starting Eleven

Postby Johnny H » Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:38 pm

Interesting that everyone seems to think a front two is the way we should go.

I fully agree and as long as players are in their natural positions don't really mind if its 442 Diamond or 532 Wingbacks.....

lets hope NC doesnt go with his seemingly favoured 4411 or 541 formations !!!
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