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Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby part time pete » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:22 pm

We all know what happened to Rawson after his bad back pass against Sutton on Good Friday, he never played again for the Stags. Any chance of this happening to Riley.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby Ralphy » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:28 pm

part time pete wrote:We all know what happened to Rawson after his bad back pass against Sutton on Good Friday, he never played again for the Stags. Any chance of this happening to Riley.


No, he is a young player that has made a mistake. Defo one of our best performers so far this season. He got dragged off and probably had to face the manager and his team mates in the dressing room afterwards. It’s a young pro in his first full season in proper league football, he will make mistakes but he will also learn from them or fall by the way side, my bet from what I have seen of him is that he learns and goes on to be pretty close to our player of the season come May. Back the lad, he’s a quality player and best case scenario for us is that Forest stay up and we go up then we can get him for another year in league one.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:28 pm

I doubt it.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby Dan » Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:23 am

It was a shame about the errors because up until that point he was one of my MOTM. Not sure how Macca got it, strange decision.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby Costastag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:32 am

No cloughie,s got to accept hes a youngster learning his trade ,plus he signed him
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby Tess Tickle » Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:59 am

Dan wrote:It was a shame about the errors because up until that point he was one of my MOTM. Not sure how Macca got it, strange decision.

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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:18 am

I hope not.

It's one of the risks of using youth, in any profession. They will make mistakes. Sometimes small ones and on the odd occasion big ones. It's just life.

He's played 11 games. Played pretty much all of them bar probably about 30 minutes due to being subbed late on in a couple of games.

I'm delighted that in all that time he's scored 3 and played well for the vast majority of it.

Clough has stuck by players who've played far worse than Riley has so I'd expect him to stick with him still.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby AJStag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:14 am

See the match thread. Some errors are punished,others you get lucky!
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby Sneag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:43 am

I hope not, he's a good young lad and hopefully he learned a valuable lesson last night that will make him an even better player.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby adamstag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:45 am

it would be crazy if it happened - the young lads made a mistake.

You see some top league players make these mistakes so you can’t have riley shot at dawn due to it.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:48 am

I think he will be rested for a game or two. Clough has already said the youngsters from Forest will play 25-30 games possibly. It might not be a bad thing after those mistakes. He’s been brilliant but needs to learn.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:05 am

i hate being proved right in circumstances like this, chin up young un
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby Richard Cranium » Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:38 am

yorkshire stag wrote:i hate being proved right in circumstances like this, chin up young un


No you don't
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby bear 73 » Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:49 am

Harbottle made a mistake like all footballers do, the test is how he reacts, with Hawkins, Hewitt, Gordon, Bowery to name some he should get over it quickly
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby pemill » Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:23 pm

bear 73 wrote:Harbottle made a mistake like all footballers do, the test is how he reacts, with Hawkins, Hewitt, Gordon, Bowery to name some he should get over it quickly


Harbottle scored last night there's one big difference, that must make him one of our top scorers.
So far, he has demonstrated he is worthy of a starting position and plays well consistently, do I expect him to play at Barrow, I fear not NC likes to punish players who make a mistake despite contributing more than others. In the situation he was in last night Pym should have been shouting at the top of his voice to clear it, a back pass wasn't ever an option, in all fairness I think it caught everyone by surprise.

Hawks has made it back into the starting XI despite his Red at Wembley, no reason Harbottle shouldn't get back in the starting XI
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby MansfieldMick » Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:47 pm

Hewitt had a couple of stinkers last season notably at home to Bradford and especially away at Walsall. NC slaughtered him publicly, he then went on to be the most improved player of the season and currently would always be in my starting 11. Just my opinion of course.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:23 pm

MansfieldMick wrote:Hewitt had a couple of stinkers last season notably at home to Bradford and especially away at Walsall. NC slaughtered him publicly, he then went on to be the most improved player of the season and currently would always be in my starting 11. Just my opinion of course.

A very good opinion. Hopefully Riley learns from it like Hewitt. He’s been great this season and offers a goal threat at set pieces…just a terrible last 20 minutes.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby ParisStag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:26 pm

Every player in the squad has had a bad day and made mistakes. It's how you bounce back. That's why Forest have sent him here - to learn how to bounce back in a men's league. There are enough experienced heads to help him do it.
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:55 pm

Richard Cranium wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:i hate being proved right in circumstances like this, chin up young un


No you don't


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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby tillydog123 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:42 pm

All defenders and goalies make muck ups like strikers miss sitters but too many crucial ones will see him subbed for a while
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby adamstag » Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:08 pm

Look at the mistake chelsea made last season in the champions league at home to real madrid

the howler from the ex spireite in goal for england the other night

It happens.

Maybe next time harbottles in that situation he’ll leather the ball as far as he can in whatever direction and we can regroup and go again.

If it can happen at international or champions league level by experienced pros it can happen to kids learning their trade in the 4th division.

Just don’t make a habit of it riley ;)
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:20 pm

adamstag wrote:Look at the mistake chelsea made last season in the champions league at home to real madrid

the howler from the ex spireite in goal for england the other night

It happens.

Maybe next time harbottles in that situation he’ll leather the ball as far as he can in whatever direction and we can regroup and go again.

If it can happen at international or champions league level by experienced pros it can happen to kids learning their trade in the 4th division.

Just don’t make a habit of it riley ;)


Pope has never played for Chesterfield. He may have had a stinker against Germany but don’t tar him with that brush :lol:
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby adamstag » Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:25 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
adamstag wrote:Look at the mistake chelsea made last season in the champions league at home to real madrid

the howler from the ex spireite in goal for england the other night

It happens.

Maybe next time harbottles in that situation he’ll leather the ball as far as he can in whatever direction and we can regroup and go again.

If it can happen at international or champions league level by experienced pros it can happen to kids learning their trade in the 4th division.

Just don’t make a habit of it riley ;)


Pope has never played for Chesterfield. He may have had a stinker against Germany but don’t tar him with that brush :lol:


for once i’m wrong :shock: :lol:

ultimately that’s the price we sometimes pay when we take loan players from cluvs higher up who are young and earning their trade.

That’s what happened on friday, he wil learn from it and we move on. Not sure clough berating him at that age is quite the way forward but i’m sure he’ll know why to do next time
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby broomo » Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:00 pm

adamstag wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
adamstag wrote:Look at the mistake chelsea made last season in the champions league at home to real madrid

the howler from the ex spireite in goal for england the other night

It happens.

Maybe next time harbottles in that situation he’ll leather the ball as far as he can in whatever direction and we can regroup and go again.

If it can happen at international or champions league level by experienced pros it can happen to kids learning their trade in the 4th division.

Just don’t make a habit of it riley ;)


Pope has never played for Chesterfield. He may have had a stinker against Germany but don’t tar him with that brush :lol:


for once i’m wrong :shock: :lol:

ultimately that’s the price we sometimes pay when we take loan players from cluvs higher up who are young and earning their trade.

That’s what happened on friday, he wil learn from it and we move on. Not sure clough berating him at that age is quite the way forward but i’m sure he’ll know why to do next time


You've posted a couple of things that have really annoyed me this weekend and I've bit my tongue and not responded.

Not this time.

Where has Clough "berated" him?
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Re: Will Harbottle follow the fate of Rawson.

Postby Spiritater » Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:13 am

Probably in the changing room?
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