Walsall Kick-off Time Brought Forward

[zod]

I look forward to the club providing a detailed report on the pros and cons of the early kick off

Yeah, right

*police advice*

I don't recall any trouble in January when the kickoff was 3PM?

[gazza1988]

I look forward to the club providing a detailed report on the pros and cons of the early kick off

Yeah, right

*police advice*

I don't recall any trouble in January when the kickoff was 3PM?

No but there could have been. So better safe than sorry. Notts police logic.

[I am Spartacus]

I look forward to the club providing a detailed report on the pros and cons of the early kick off

Yeah, right

Pro’s
Saving on Energy due to not having the lights on (Possible)
Lower policing costs due to fans not travelling and or not being in the pubs as long before (Possible)
Lower stewarding costs due to fewer travelling fans (Possible)

Cons
Energy costs staying the same. A gloomy overcast and rainy autumn day could easily trigger this. Especially if the referee says he want the lights on from the start (Possible)
Greater disorder as those that are up for this sort of thing aren’t usually bother by kick off times (Possible)
Policing costs and stewarding costs the same due to away fans travelling irrespective of the kick off time and Police intelligence (Possible).
Lower attendance due to those who cannot now make it. (Possible)
Loss of reputation of the club by all those now not able to attend (definite).
Loss of revenue to the club through refreshment sales. Arising through lower attendance, less time in Sandys, people going straight to the ground (Possible)
Less money in the Mansfield Town Centre and local area economy due to prior arrangements impacting on the day out. For families that go and have lunch etc they will, I doubt, stay out later to compensate (Possible).
Loss of reputation of the club, within own fan base by unjointed decision making and terrible public relations i.e. Walsall game v Hartlepool game kick off times (Definite).

Feel free to add or amend accordingly.

[Dave Wayne]

I look forward to the club providing a detailed report on the pros and cons of the early kick off

Yeah, right

Pro’s
Saving on Energy due to not having the lights on (Possible)
Lower policing costs due to fans not travelling and or not being in the pubs as long before (Possible)
Lower stewarding costs due to fewer travelling fans (Possible)

Cons
Energy costs staying the same. A gloomy overcast and rainy autumn day could easily trigger this. Especially if the referee says he want the lights on from the start (Possible)
Greater disorder as those that are up for this sort of thing aren’t usually bother by kick off times (Possible)
Policing costs and stewarding costs the same due to away fans travelling irrespective of the kick off time and Police intelligence (Possible).
Lower attendance due to those who cannot now make it. (Possible)
Loss of reputation of the club by all those now not able to attend (definite).
Loss of revenue to the club through refreshment sales. Arising through lower attendance, less time in Sandys, people going straight to the ground (Possible)
Less money in the Mansfield Town Centre and local area economy due to prior arrangements impacting on the day out. For families that go and have lunch etc they will, I doubt, stay out later to compensate (Possible).
Loss of reputation of the club, within own fan base by unjointed decision making and terrible public relations i.e. Walsall game v Hartlepool game kick off times (Definite).

Feel free to add or amend accordingly.

Pro's
I have to be in Bradford for 5pm so couldn't attend a 3pm kick off, but will now be able to make it (Definite).

[Johnny Rotten]

Whatever the reasoning behind the moving of the kickoff from 3pm to 1pm is it regarded as a success? Might we see it more often?

(I've no idea why it was moved hence my asking)

[yorkshire stag]

the club are sworn to secrecy

[bear 73]

the club are sworn to secrecy

Another dig you just cannot help it

[georgefostersbeard]

the club are sworn to secrecy

If only the club had allowed the CEO to speak to the local media let alone the national press. But secrecy clearly reigns

[yorkshire stag]

the club are sworn to secrecy

If only the club had allowed the CEO to speak to the local media let alone the national press. But secrecy clearly reigns

Stop spoiling my entertainment meanie

[SeanieStag]

I personally thought it was a great success. Good atmosphere, electricity saved, large crowd and queues for everything, just like every other game.

[georgefostersbeard]

the club are sworn to secrecy

If only the club had allowed the CEO to speak to the local media let alone the national press. But secrecy clearly reigns

Stop spoiling my entertainment meanie

Booooooo!

[wayno cordiniho]

No for me:
Atmosphere was a bit flatter IMO
Pubs were empty pre match
Noticeable that a lot of younger fans didn’t attend in QLE where I sit

[georgefostersbeard]

No for me:
Atmosphere was a bit flatter IMO
Pubs were empty pre match
Noticeable that a lot of younger fans didn’t attend in QLE where I sit

Ultimately the only issue is over whether it hits the targets financially for the club which I presume that they will comment on in coming days.
The crowd seemed about on par with normal but I agree that it felt a little flatter.

[oldweststander]

I feel we are in for more disruptive 1pm kick offs.

[Stoney]

If they start moving this season's Saturday games to 1pm meaning I can't make them I'll be requesting a partial refund on my season ticket. I bought it believing the majority of the games would be Saturday at 3pm when I can make most of the games and wouldn't miss them through work.

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

Probably the biggest group that this move would effect are the youngsters who normally play on a Saturday morning. If they have to choose between playing and attending I feel most will opt to play.

The problem with that is those youngsters are the future die hard fans of the club and can we really afford to turn them away.

[Tre Cool]

How did the club save on electricity when it was a bright and sunny day?
I was kinda hoping for a gloomy day so the club would have been forced to put the floodlights on anyway. This will more likely to be the case as we head into winter so I don't see the point of moving the kick offs.

[PEAR CIDER]

So many plans have needed to be altered for a lot fans. This is OK as one off. I know a few that couldn't make it yesterday. A regular change to the time would impact more than just the crowd.

Town pre match empty

[Dan]

i'm puzzled by the town being quiet as the majority of the people I know go into town early on, have a 'spoons' brekky and stay in the pub until the game, so what does the two hour difference make? Honestly don't know so just wondering. Also the attendance, was that how many actually turned up or did they count people who didn't go?

[Martin Shaw]

i'm puzzled by the town being quiet as the majority of the people I know go into town early on, have a 'spoons' brekky and stay in the pub until the game, so what does the two hour difference make? Honestly don't know so just wondering. Also the attendance, was that how many actually turned up or did they count people who didn't go?

Attendance: 6,821 (796 from Walsall) (note this it is essentially tickets sold, including season tickets)
from https://stagsnet.net/match/reports/view ... tchid=1184

[Bros]

The club will know how much it costs to have the lights on. So I think they were trying to see if the early ko affected the attendance. Last season we played Walsall in January and the attendance was 5700 with 880from Walsall. As we've sold an extra 1700 st so I would say the number of tickets sold would be down on last season
What I did notice was a bigger queue for the burger van as I assume people were getting their lunch there rather than eating at home before they went to the match

However I thought the EFL have said they don't want this to be a regular event,so it may be a one off.

[88BenM]

This can't be a regular occurrence. I made kickoff with minutes to spare, I only work in Alfreton and finished at 12pm but the increased traffic around the ground and finding parking was a nightmare.

It took away all the social aspect of the game for me, no prematch plans of a few beers, no post match beers because I was in the car. How many others did this happen to?

[yorkshire stag]

This can't be a regular occurrence. I made kickoff with minutes to spare, I only work in Alfreton and finished at 12pm but the increased traffic around the ground and finding parking was a nightmare.

It took away all the social aspect of the game for me, no prematch plans of a few beers, no post match beers because I was in the car. How many others did this happen to?

yepp same, no pre match spoons & team talk, much prefer 3 pm kick off plz

[iansmith]

I feel we are in for more disruptive 1pm kick offs.

No chance. Can’t see another early ko again unless on police advice.

[AshoverStag]

Yes back to 3pm.

1- Its tradition
2- It builds up anticipation for the game
3- Does not mess up peoples routines
4- some people work Sat am
5- Did not like driving back home listening to games just kicking off….just felt strange
The list goes on …….

Saying that, nice feeling knowing we had 3 points in the bag, I’d take a win at 9am if it gets us promotion

So maybe I’m wrong