Walsall Kick-off Time Brought Forward

[my name is jonas]

Could have half understood it was in Nov/Dec and if it potentially clashed with a big World Cup game and when it actually does get dark around 4.45/5 but in the middle of October a few weeks after moving a game to a Friday which didn’t go down well either is a joke.

No sat 3pm game at home from Aug 20th - October 29th

[ST4GS]

Could have half understood it in Nov/Dec if it potentially clashed with a big World Cup game and when it actually does get dark around 4.45/5 but in middle of October a few weeks after moving a game to a Friday which didn’t go down well either is a joke.

No sat 3pm game at home from Aug 20th - October 29th

Agree 100%. I like the odd Friday night game and Exeter last season was brilliant but don't move them from 3pm when we are in a period of famine. The fixtures yet again have been unkind with 4 away Saturday games out of 5. Someone at board level should understand this !!

[STAGS FOR LIFE]

[Random Hero]

A decision made after:

- No consultation with fans groups
- No consultation with local businesses potentially affected
- Zero consideration for Saturday morning youth team football
- Zero consideration for fans coming from further afield who have already booked train tickets
- Zero consideration for those who arrange to work on Saturday mornings so they can make the game in the afternoon
- Zero consideration for season ticket holders who have spent their money based on how many 3pm kick offs they can attend and now can’t make it
- No respect for English footballing tradition

Are Paul and Tina Broughton back? It feels like a backwards step to me.

[HitchcocksShins]

Wow 4 pages worth on this thread

No there isn't

[zod]

Suppose it depends on the savings the club will make on their energy bills ,

Given that the club have just invested a fortune in solar panels and it costs about £15 to run the floodlights for two hours, I can't see it bankrupting the club.

How do you know it costs £15 to run the floodlights for two hours?

29KW of lighting, at a cost of 0.23 a KWh = £6.67 an hour x 2 hours = £13.34
That's before you factor in the savings that the club are making from the solar panels.

[James]

A decision made after:

- No consultation with fans groups
- No consultation with local businesses potentially affected
- Zero consideration for Saturday morning youth team football
- Zero consideration for fans coming from further afield who have already booked train tickets
- Zero consideration for those who arrange to work on Saturday mornings so they can make the game in the afternoon
- Zero consideration for season ticket holders who have spent their money based on how many 3pm kick offs they can attend and now can’t make it
- No respect for English footballing tradition

Are Paul and Tina Broughton back? It feels like a backwards step to me.

As mentioned above, we have no fan group that would take this up anyway. The SSA are basically a glorified travel company.

[crw95]

Only we could smash our ST record then pull two stunts by mid-September that will put a lot of people off renewing.

[tillydog123]

Would not like a 1 pm kick off at all
But as always the customer and fans come second and if the club want it it will happen

[Random Hero]

A decision made after:

- No consultation with fans groups
- No consultation with local businesses potentially affected
- Zero consideration for Saturday morning youth team football
- Zero consideration for fans coming from further afield who have already booked train tickets
- Zero consideration for those who arrange to work on Saturday mornings so they can make the game in the afternoon
- Zero consideration for season ticket holders who have spent their money based on how many 3pm kick offs they can attend and now can’t make it
- No respect for English footballing tradition

Are Paul and Tina Broughton back? It feels like a backwards step to me.

As mentioned above, we have no fan group that would take this up anyway. The SSA are basically a glorified travel company.

It’s a shame - we have such a long standing and well organised supporters club in the SSA who seemingly have the respect of the club, yet they seem unable/unwilling to get involved when the matter is even slightly controversial.

It’s all well and good having a nice table in the Kevin Bird Suite at every home game, but now and again perhaps they need to get involved where it really matters to supporters.

[Oladamber66]

2 hours early and its the end of the world ...club doesn’t care ! Utter rubbish ... its a trail FGS some of the comments on here are outrageous....

[Dan]

It has a wider impact not just on the club

A lot of pubs require that pre match trade


Simple way to stop it. Have a wee protest before the match.

Are you taking the piss?

[Random Hero]

2 hours early and its the end of the world ...club doesn’t care ! Utter rubbish ... its a trail FGS some of the comments on here are outrageous....

Ah so long as it doesn’t affect you mate let’s just crack on shall we

[Beyond The Pale]

Superstar

Bombing down the hill on a Yamaha
Does a skid, hits a kid
Smacks his balls on a dustbin lid

Well, that's how it went when I was at junior school...

[yorkstag]

Very poor decision from the club and another example recently of no communication between the club and the fans.

Where are the SSA in all of this? Are they a supporters group that brings up issues from the fan base to the club? Do we need to set up a supporters group that will do that?

What an absolutely ridiculous post- the club is a business which has to react to difficult times. I think the SSA do a great job. This is an experiment and a great idea

[yorkstag]

Would not like a 1 pm kick off at all
But as always the customer and fans come second and if the club want it it will happen

That’s life - what world do you live in. As I mentioned on another response if it has an impact I’m sure the club will respond.
Costs for businesses will rocket later this year and I think this experiment reflects the fact that we are a well run club.

[Random Hero]

Very poor decision from the club and another example recently of no communication between the club and the fans.

Where are the SSA in all of this? Are they a supporters group that brings up issues from the fan base to the club? Do we need to set up a supporters group that will do that?

What an absolutely ridiculous post- the club is a business which has to react to difficult times. I think the SSA do a great job. This is an experiment and a great idea

By ‘reacting to difficult times’ do you mean trying to justify a fixture move as ‘an energy cost related trial’ whilst simultaneously switching a fixture that would have used no floodlight energy to a Friday night?

This whole thing is an utter shambles and should be revisited as a matter of urgency.

[yorkstag]

If we want to mitigate the cost of floodlights why have we moved Hartlepool to a friday night?

Exactly this. What a shambles

It’s not a shambles it’s an experiment. Good luck to the club - it’s a business which has to survive. Taken together both games will inform on Friday night and 1 pm kick offs.

[yorkstag]

Very poor decision from the club and another example recently of no communication between the club and the fans.

Where are the SSA in all of this? Are they a supporters group that brings up issues from the fan base to the club? Do we need to set up a supporters group that will do that?

What an absolutely ridiculous post- the club is a business which has to react to difficult times. I think the SSA do a great job. This is an experiment and a great idea

By ‘reacting to difficult times’ do you mean trying to justify a fixture move as ‘an energy cost related trial’ whilst simultaneously switching a fixture that would have used no floodlight energy to a Friday night?

This whole thing is an utter shambles and should be revisited as a matter of urgency.

It’s not a shambles it will help the club understand the impact of changes. Is a fixture move such a disaster ?

[Slackythestag]

A decision made after:

- No consultation with fans groups
- No consultation with local businesses potentially affected
- Zero consideration for Saturday morning youth team football
- Zero consideration for fans coming from further afield who have already booked train tickets
- Zero consideration for those who arrange to work on Saturday mornings so they can make the game in the afternoon
- Zero consideration for season ticket holders who have spent their money based on how many 3pm kick offs they can attend and now can’t make it
- No respect for English footballing tradition

Are Paul and Tina Broughton back? It feels like a backwards step to me.

As mentioned above, we have no fan group that would take this up anyway. The SSA are basically a glorified travel company.

It’s a shame - we have such a long standing and well organised supporters club in the SSA who seemingly have the respect of the club, yet they seem unable/unwilling to get involved when the matter is even slightly controversial.

It’s all well and good having a nice table in the Kevin Bird Suite at every home game, but now and again perhaps they need to get involved where it really matters to supporters.

The SSA have done wonders for the club and myself over the years, no questions about it. However they are more a travel/funding supporters club as mentioned.

BUT, it seems they never sit down with the club and discuss the real issues. We do need a more hard lined supporters group who aren't afraid to voice their opinions and concerns.

Many clubs regularly sit down with their main supporters group before passing anything off and have to come to some agreement.

This isn't a dig at the club as we are in an excellent position as a football club for the first time in years, however the club can't keep changing kick off dates and times at short notice without consultation of the fans. The changing of kick off time isn't an issue for me, however I can see it being a problem for many others if it is to be a regular occurance.

Are the SSA raising issues to the club regarding the difficulty accessing the ground, (the gate behind shut), the queues and turnstiles problems we are having etc?

Up the stags.

[Random Hero]

Very poor decision from the club and another example recently of no communication between the club and the fans.

Where are the SSA in all of this? Are they a supporters group that brings up issues from the fan base to the club? Do we need to set up a supporters group that will do that?

What an absolutely ridiculous post- the club is a business which has to react to difficult times. I think the SSA do a great job. This is an experiment and a great idea

By ‘reacting to difficult times’ do you mean trying to justify a fixture move as ‘an energy cost related trial’ whilst simultaneously switching a fixture that would have used no floodlight energy to a Friday night?

This whole thing is an utter shambles and should be revisited as a matter of urgency.

It’s not a shambles it will help the club understand the impact of changes. Is a fixture move such a disaster ?

‘Disaster’ is a strong word. However, it’s very inconvenient for many, especially those who have already shelled out their hard earned cash on season tickets.

How can you justify an experiment to reduce energy costs whilst simultaneously switching a different fixture to use much more energy costs - at the cost of much inconvenience for many paying customers?!

[Random Hero]

As mentioned above, we have no fan group that would take this up anyway. The SSA are basically a glorified travel company.

It’s a shame - we have such a long standing and well organised supporters club in the SSA who seemingly have the respect of the club, yet they seem unable/unwilling to get involved when the matter is even slightly controversial.

It’s all well and good having a nice table in the Kevin Bird Suite at every home game, but now and again perhaps they need to get involved where it really matters to supporters.

The SSA have done wonders for the club and myself over the years, no questions about it. However they are more a travel/funding supporters club as mentioned.

BUT, it seems they never sit down with the club and discuss the real issues. We do need a more hard lined supporters group who aren't afraid to voice their opinions and concerns.

Many clubs regularly sit down with their main supporters group before passing anything off and have to come to some agreement.

This isn't a dig at the club as we are in an excellent position as a football club for the first time in years, however the club can't keep changing kick off dates and times at short notice with consultation of the fans. The changing of kick off time isn't an issue for me, however I can see it being a problem for many others if it is to be a regular occurance.

Are the SSA raising issues to the club regarding the difficulty accessing the ground, (the gate behind shut), the queues and turnstiles problems we are having etc?

Up the stags.

Great post young Slacky, agree with every word.

[stag324]

I apologise if someone has already posted this on the thread as I haven't read through all the comments but if the club,

-Built a bigger shop and got stock in
-Fixed the problems with the food kiosks
-Fixed the turnstiles
-Asked fans to pay for a new padded seat with their name on

Implemented the above and other potential revenue drivers the club would easily cover the additional cost on the electric bill

[HitchcocksShins]

It has a wider impact not just on the club

A lot of pubs require that pre match trade


Simple way to stop it. Have a wee protest before the match.

Are you taking the piss?

Urine for it now

[Marky Mark]

Is there anything that says that the SSA knew anything about it at all before it was announced by the club?