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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:00 pm



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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby The One » Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:54 pm

Ref is Martin Woods
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby part time pete » Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:16 pm

The One wrote:Ref is Martin Woods



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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby bobbystagsfan » Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:33 pm

part time pete wrote:
The One wrote:Ref is Martin Woods



First season in EFL, not had him before.



So a terrible ref performance, and he'll go up a league next season I assume :lol:
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby oldweststander » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:42 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:So, who replaces Hartigan then? I’d personally go for Quinn if Boateng is still injured.


This might get a reaction from the know all's.

Hartigan is a defensive midfielder we are told, so why not pick Wallace to cover.

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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby MTFCMusings » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:23 pm

oldweststander wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:So, who replaces Hartigan then? I’d personally go for Quinn if Boateng is still injured.


This might get a reaction from the know all's.

Hartigan is a defensive midfielder we are told, so why not pick Wallace to cover.

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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby gazza1988 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:28 pm

part time pete wrote:
The One wrote:Ref is Martin Woods



First season in EFL, not had him before.


Sometimes the refs on the rise do quite well in the league. It's the ones who have been around this level for years you have to watch out for
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby AJStag » Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:37 am

Wouldn't be surprised to see James Perch at right wing back at Crewe today. Many focused on JJ at Grimsby but I felt Kellan was guilty of dereliction of his defensive duties both for the first goal and before that an earlier missed Grimsby opportunity. Jordan has not been at his best recently and James has better defensive nous. Probably more selective with attacking forays though!
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby Stag95 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:17 am

Point would be a very decent result today.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:28 am

AJStag wrote:Wouldn't be surprised to see James Perch at right wing back at Crewe today. Many focused on JJ at Grimsby but I felt Kellan was guilty of dereliction of his defensive duties both for the first goal and before that an earlier missed Grimsby opportunity. Jordan has not been at his best recently and James has better defensive nous. Probably more selective with attacking forays though!


If it's the chance on the highlights then grimsby have the ball on their right of central midfield. Pass it more into the centre and feed a through ball forwards and it's Gordon's fault, not JJ at RCB, Bowery at CB, Perch at LCB or Macca at LWB. It's the fault of the right wing back. Makes no sense at all.



For the goal Grimsby have, again, the ball on their right of central midfield. Feed a ball between JJ and Bowery. But that's Kellan's fault too. Watch the highlights and before Khan finds the bet bowery left the man he decided to follow in acres of space in the box to go stand on the goal line with Perch.

Gordon has to start at RWB, the only other option we have there is currently1st choice RCB and the other is 1st choice forward.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby Simplystaggered » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:40 am

3 points would be handy going into the very winnable Friday night game against Hartlepool. In the space of a week we can be 4 wins in 5 and banging on the door to the top 3. The only selection questions for me are right back and whether we bring Lapslie back into midfield and Swan up top or swap like for like with Quinn. Hoping Nigel makes the simple choice and keeps the side as close to Gillingham as possible.

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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby ParisStag » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:43 am

Stag95 wrote:Point would be a very decent result today.


An away point is never to be sniffed at, but given recent form, we should be winning this

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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby Rob » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:44 am

gazza1988 wrote:
AJStag wrote:Wouldn't be surprised to see James Perch at right wing back at Crewe today. Many focused on JJ at Grimsby but I felt Kellan was guilty of dereliction of his defensive duties both for the first goal and before that an earlier missed Grimsby opportunity. Jordan has not been at his best recently and James has better defensive nous. Probably more selective with attacking forays though!


If it's the chance on the highlights then grimsby have the ball on their right of central midfield. Pass it more into the centre and feed a through ball forwards and it's Gordon's fault, not JJ at RCB, Bowery at CB, Perch at LCB or Macca at LWB. It's the fault of the right wing back. Makes no sense at all.



For the goal Grimsby have, again, the ball on their right of central midfield. Feed a ball between JJ and Bowery. But that's Kellan's fault too. Watch the highlights and before Khan finds the bet bowery left the man he decided to follow in acres of space in the box to go stand on the goal line with Perch.

Gordon has to start at RWB, the only other option we have there is currently1st choice RCB and the other is 1st choice forward.


Gordon had a poor game Gazza, you can do your best to defend him, as you do, but he was poor and at least partly culpable for both goals. The best RWB at the club by miles is Hewitt, but the clear lack of options at CB, which are entirely self-inflicted, mean he is needed there. I've given up guessing what side Clough will put out, but I'd try to get Hewitt back at RWB as he's defensively vastly superior to Gordon
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby AJStag » Sat Sep 24, 2022 10:59 am

Gazza.He doesn't track the runner on both occasions. I watched the whole game.JJ could have done better but tracking the runner would have negated the chance imo.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby Marky Mark » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:03 pm



Quinn for Hartigan
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:11 pm

No issues with the line up, come on you Stags!
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:12 pm

I didn't watch the game. Only based it on the highlights.

That's the point of a back 3. The wider CB tracks runners running past the wing backs. They win the ball and the option of the wing back to counter is there.

If he was playing full back then you could argue its his responsibility. There is a difference in responsibly between wing back and full back.

Besides Martin rated him a 6. Gale, Hartigan and flinders recieved a higher mark of 7.

O'toole who, as RCB, should've tracked the run was rated a 5. Bowery and Perch got 5.5. Because it was Perch's side the attack started and Bowery was largely non existent when defending the goals.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby yellowstagsfan » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:17 pm

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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby AJStag » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:25 pm

His job title includes the word back so there is a requirement to contribute defensively as and when necessary. His contribution in that regard isn't great,although to be fair he is a "winger" really.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby BH_Stag » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:30 pm

Huge game for Stephen Quinn. Needs to up his game massively from what he has shown this season so far.

If the Quinn from early last season turns up we will win the game.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby Rob » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:53 pm

gazza1988 wrote:I didn't watch the game. Only based it on the highlights.

That's the point of a back 3. The wider CB tracks runners running past the wing backs. They win the ball and the option of the wing back to counter is there.

If he was playing full back then you could argue its his responsibility. There is a difference in responsibly between wing back and full back.

Besides Martin rated him a 6. Gale, Hartigan and flinders recieved a higher mark of 7.

O'toole who, as RCB, should've tracked the run was rated a 5. Bowery and Perch got 5.5. Because it was Perch's side the attack started and Bowery was largely non existent when defending the goals.


That's one person's subjective opinion! I'd say Gordon was at least as poor as O'Toole, probably worse as JJ improved 2nd half. Maybe if you'd been at the game you'd think differently.

Happy with the line up, would have brought Quinn in myself and whilst I'd prefer Hewitt at RWB it's obvious that Perch and O'Toole have fitness/form issues and there's no-one else.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 1:59 pm

But we have plenty of centre halves though? Or so we are told.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:03 pm

Crewe launch the ball down their left. Good defending from Gordon to dispossess the crewe player and clear.

Crewe float a ball over and Hewitt is over to mop up and is fouled.

Pym takes it and it bounces over the defence and lapslie tries to get on the end but the keeper collects.
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Re: Crewe score thread sponsored by 3 bags of coal needed

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:05 pm

Crewe attack down their left. They get in behind and square it to an unmarked Crewe player and Hewitt closes him down blocking the shot.

Gordon does well on the right and his cross is behind for a corner.

Corner comes in and hits Harbottle on the back and Crewe clear.

Stags counter and a Clarke shot is blocked.

This is non stop from both sides so far.
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