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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Spiritater » Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:37 am

Top and 2nd are gone and so far in front we need a telescope to see them now. The Cobblers look a better bet by a long chalk than our sorry bunch of square pegs for top 3. The thread title should be rejigged to playoffs now and pray an awful lot.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:09 pm

I'm predicting Stags will need 81 points to finish in the TOP 3.

Current Table
PLD...W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.20...10...3...7....33....1.65

Required for 81 points
PLD...W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.26...16..0..10....48...1.85
.26...15..3...8.....48...1.85
.26...14..6...6.....48...1.85
.26...13..9...4.....48...1.85
.26...12..12..1....48...1.85
.26...11..15..0....48...1.85

Stags current PPG 1.65 would total 76 points over a season.

On course for the PLAY-OFFS.

29 goals in 20 games, Stags are 4th top scorers.

Only 5 teams have conceded more goals than Stags.

Bizarrely, at half-time Stags have only been winning in 1 out of the 20 games (Gillingham A).
Based solely on 1st half goals Stags would be 21st.
Based solely on 2nd half goals Stags would be 4th.

Ideally, need to win 2 out the next 3 games to keep in striking distance of the top 3 at the halfway stage (23 games).
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Very important win today and let's hope it's the start in a change of fortunes and a good run of form.



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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:39 pm

Some good stats there John. Enjoyed talking Stags with you on the bus to Everton.

If Leyton Orient, Stevenage and Northampton carry on as they are then we might need a lot more than 81 points to make top the 3

Leyton Orient (2.4 points per game) = 110 Points!!
Stevenage 98 (2.15 points per game) = 98
Northampton Town (1.95 points per game) = 89

Leyton Orient and Stevenage's first half of the season is incredible.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby part time pete » Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:16 pm

After yesterday’s draw we are still 5 pts ahead of last years points total after 21 games.

We have 34 points as against 29 pts.

We have still got another 5 games to go as last year we had 44 pts after 26 games.

So we need another ten points (3 wins 1 draw and 1 lose ) from next five games to equal where we were after that record breaking run of eight wins on the trot.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Costastag » Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:55 pm

Nope
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:05 pm

Never say never, but more likely the playoffs.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Billy the fish » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:20 pm

We need a good January in the transfer window but we know that won’t happen ..
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Costastag » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:38 pm

Billy the fish wrote:We need a good January in the transfer window but we know that won’t happen ..

Thats what it all depends on but like you im not overly optimistic of a good transfer window
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby scotsstag » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:37 pm

part time pete wrote:After yesterday’s draw we are still 5 pts ahead of last years points total after 21 games.

We have 34 points as against 29 pts.

We have still got another 5 games to go as last year we had 44 pts after 26 games.

So we need another ten points (3 wins 1 draw and 1 lose ) from next five games to equal where we were after that record breaking run of eight wins on the trot.

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:50 pm

I'm predicting Stags will need 81 points to finish in the TOP 3.

Current Table
PLD...W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.21...10...4...7....34....1.62

Required for 81 points
PLD...W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.25...15..2...8.....47...1.88
.25...14..5...6.....47...1.88
.25...13..8...4.....47...1.88
.25...12..11..1....47...1.88
.25...11..14..0....47...1.88

Stags current PPG 1.62 would total 74 points over a season.

On course for the PLAY-OFFS.

29 goals in 21 games, Stags are 5th top scorers.

Only 5 teams have conceded more goals than Stags.

Bizarrely, at half-time Stags have only been winning in 1 out of the 21 games (Gillingham A).
Based solely on 1st half goals Stags would be 21st.
Based solely on 2nd half goals Stags would be 4th.

If Stags could win the next 2 HOME games, Grimsby & Northampton, Stags would have 40 points at the halfway stage (23 games). This would be a good 1st half of the season, and Stags would be very much in the race for a TOP 3 place.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:25 pm

I'm predicting Stags will need 81 points to finish in the TOP 3.

Current Table
PLD...W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.22...10...5...7....35....1.59

Required for 81 points
PLD...W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.24...15..1...8.....46...1.92
.24...14..4...6.....46...1.92
.24...13..7...4.....46...1.92
.24...12..10..1....46...1.92
.24...11..13..0....46...1.92

Stags current PPG 1.59 would total 73 points over a season.

On course for the PLAY-OFFS.

Bizarrely, at half-time Stags have only been winning in 1 out of the 22 games (Gillingham A).

Stags now need to win 3 consecutive games to be on course for 81 points (PPG 1.76)

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Really poor, bottom 6 game today.

Where was the Cobblers fans today, top 3, less then 600 fans for a bank holiday game just over 1 hour away :shock:
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Spiritater » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:36 am

Just 15 more points for the magical 50 barrier :D
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby St Hilary Stag » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:41 am

Not a chance UNLESS Clough pulls his finger out & makes 2-3 signings in January .
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby BenJwells » Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:05 am

Eastern Green Stag wrote:Not a chance UNLESS Clough pulls his finger out & makes 2-3 signings in January .


January is difficult, always seem to sign good players on paper but then they disrupt everything, though this year not much to disrupt.. very much up and down rather than last years two clear trajectories

either you sign them because they haven't had much football and then they're not fit enough or they're available for a reason, absolute crap.

And the chance they come in and have a positive effect, it then makes it very hard to sign them permanently

I do think its a good time to ship out dead wood though, just very difficult to replace them.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Captain Cunno » Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:47 am

Go back to a diamond of maris quinn Clarke and Laps with Oates and Swan up top then we may have a chance.....
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby The One » Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:49 am

Captain Cunno wrote:Go back to a diamond of maris quinn Clarke and Laps with Oates and Swan up top then we may have a chance.....


Agree with that, if it works why fix it.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby I am Spartacus » Tue Dec 27, 2022 11:15 am

To be still ‘in with a shout’ of the automatic play off positions and within the play off positions at the half way stage is, to me, rather an embarrassment of league two as a competition. We have not played well for weeks, makeshift side after makeshift side have been played with yesterday’s team picked from the most widely available squad for a while. What did we get from 3 pm onwards the most turgid and tepid display of football for a while. We struggle to score despite having three damn good forwards (Swan, Oates and Hawkins) and we are hard to beat thankfully to a makeshift and dogged, though not by any way (Hewitt withstanding) a good defence. Our goal difference for a side in the hunt is not one that excites or inspires confidence.

To be promoted from this league, should we manage it, would not be a show of force for the coming season but proof rather that we are just slightly better than the rest of this shower.

I hope we manage it but should we do so this side will not be remembered for its football in the way sides should be.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby part time pete » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:30 pm

part time pete wrote:After yesterday’s draw we are still 5 pts ahead of last years points total after 21 games.

We have 34 points as against 29 pts.

We have still got another 5 games to go as last year we had 44 pts after 26 games.

So we need another ten points (3 wins 1 draw and 1 lose ) from next five games to equal where we were after that record breaking run of eight wins on the trot.


Following the draw against Northampton we are still 3 points better off than at this stage last season.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Chrisuknottm » Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:33 pm

part time pete wrote:
part time pete wrote:After yesterday’s draw we are still 5 pts ahead of last years points total after 21 games.

We have 34 points as against 29 pts.

We have still got another 5 games to go as last year we had 44 pts after 26 games.

So we need another ten points (3 wins 1 draw and 1 lose ) from next five games to equal where we were after that record breaking run of eight wins on the trot.


Following the draw against Northampton we are still 3 points better off than at this stage last season.


Drives me crazy you saying that considering we were almost bottom of the football league and had been on a terrible run of results
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:46 pm

I think there’s certainly been a lack of excitement this season. It was always going to be difficult to top the excitement of last season but there’s not been much entertainment on show, particularly at home. I wouldn’t think many are in a hurry to take up the half season ticket offer.

For me, Clough needs to pick a formation and stick to it. If it’s three at the back we need a centre back at the least. If it’s 4-5-1 we need at least one centre back and at least one winger.

I don’t want to see O’Toole or Perch as regular starters, Boateng, Lapslie or Quinn as wingers with a loan striker, Maris anywhere other than a deep lying midfielder and Will Swan anywhere other than on the pitch for as many minutes as possible.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Dave Wayne » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:47 pm

Chrisuknottm wrote:
part time pete wrote:
part time pete wrote:After yesterday’s draw we are still 5 pts ahead of last years points total after 21 games.

We have 34 points as against 29 pts.

We have still got another 5 games to go as last year we had 44 pts after 26 games.

So we need another ten points (3 wins 1 draw and 1 lose ) from next five games to equal where we were after that record breaking run of eight wins on the trot.


Following the draw against Northampton we are still 3 points better off than at this stage last season.


Drives me crazy you saying that considering we were almost bottom of the football league and had been on a terrible run of results

The bad run finished at the end of October. Our win on Boxing Day was the 7th win in 8 games. We were in 9th place, 1 point off the playoffs.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby Costastag » Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:20 pm

We are going nowhere atm ,a few signings in jan may change that the balls in nigels court
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby BenJwells » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:19 pm

can certainly finish top 3, this league is crap.

However I think we were on a good course for steady progression and we've gone backwards again by abandoning what worked so well last year.

Needed to continue what we were doing and replace the ageing players (that includes "winger" Murphy) with some pace and obviously sign a proper defender.

Why we've started playing 352 and trying to slot Hartigan and Boating in right away without letting them actually win their place has set us back. Feels like Wembley has spooked us

Also think for this squad to be successful it needs its core to stay fit for the majority of the season, but won't happen.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby five to three » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:27 pm

Everything comes back to even the manager doesn't have faith in our defence. Until that is sorted the midfield and forward line (I mean player) will continue to be shackled.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3

Postby stag324 » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:23 am

The frustrating thing for me is that this team is capable of producing a 5 star performance, ie Sheff Wed

Why we perform the way we do is the question? It’s just so frustrating
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