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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby adamstag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:02 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:I couldn’t care less about this game to be honest, just want the first teamers through safely and the baffling Bowery centre back experiment to end.


it’s been tried on numerous occasions and blatantly doesn’t work. Hopefully the penny has dropped and he puts it to bed for good.

Again i couldn’t really care less about this competition but at least hopefully something good will come from it in this sense.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby stag324 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:08 pm

Well done to the guys who have travelled

Hopefully the fish n chips were worth it.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby 1970Stag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:13 pm

What worries me is that Clough will do stuff like this in a game that matters.
Squad is threadbare and we have yet another injury, but at least that gives him a ready made excuse.
And what contract did we give O Toole when he had us over a barrel because he was playing well, and now he's gone back to slow and not very good, another two seasons is it? Money well spent there, same with Perch and Quinn, it needed new younger blood, but he stuck with the tried and tested.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby Elkesley Stag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:18 pm

1970Stag wrote:What worries me is that Clough will do stuff like this in a game that matters.
Squad is threadbare and we have yet another injury, but at least that gives him a ready made excuse.
And what contract did we give O Toole when he had us over a barrel because he was playing well, and now he's gone back to slow and not very good, another two seasons is it? Money well spent there, same with Perch and Quinn, it needed new younger blood, but he stuck with the tried and tested.


Ridiculous post. You don’t know details of the contract but think it’s not a good idea to sign a player because he is playing well ?
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby gazza1988 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:21 pm

Stags throw. Level with 6 yard area on the right. Harbottle throws it long and it just deflects out of the area and cleared.

Watched 15 minutes and not much to report.

Has it been this grim all game?
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby yorkshire stag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:22 pm

well that’s that then
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby gazza1988 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:22 pm

FT its a 2-0 loss.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:23 pm

Getting what we deserve. Nothing.

If this is our famous strength in depth, we have more problems than I thought.

Looking for a positive, Jason Law is back and will be another option.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby lifestags » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:24 pm

My concern is if you can call it that, that any little “doubts” I had about a few of these players appear to have shown themselves tonight.

O’Toole, Quinn, Perch all look very old and leggy, Perch tries to be aggressive at the half way line and a lot of the time it backfires.

Gordon gives too much space to the player he should be marking, takes him 10 seconds before he decided what he’s doing with the ball.

Macca is less effective further forward in a wing back position and is more effective at LB with space infront of him.

Gale isn’t ready yet, hence why NC is adamant he wants him on loan.

Swan, in and out of the game, good in short spells.

Wallace has the turning circle of a lorry and too often just plays what he sees.



Bloody hell, that’s a negative post, bring on a 0-3 win at Crewe.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby 1970Stag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:28 pm

Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:What worries me is that Clough will do stuff like this in a game that matters.
Squad is threadbare and we have yet another injury, but at least that gives him a ready made excuse.
And what contract did we give O Toole when he had us over a barrel because he was playing well, and now he's gone back to slow and not very good, another two seasons is it? Money well spent there, same with Perch and Quinn, it needed new younger blood, but he stuck with the tried and tested.


Ridiculous post. You don’t know details of the contract but think it’s not a good idea to sign a player because he is playing well ?



Look at O Toole and how he's moved around. We have signed a lot of old players on extensions, and most have been 1 year too long on all of them, especially if we are looking for promotion, because you let players go if you go up. Northampton did it with O Toole no? We should have signed him, because he was having a possitive impact on the team, but the length of the contract was too long, but O Toole knew Clough needed him. If you cant see that, then that's not my fault.
I hope they all prove me wrong and get promoted, but Boateng and Oates are big losses, and I'm not sure if we will see Oates back this year?
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby Elkesley Stag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:30 pm

1970Stag wrote:
Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:What worries me is that Clough will do stuff like this in a game that matters.
Squad is threadbare and we have yet another injury, but at least that gives him a ready made excuse.
And what contract did we give O Toole when he had us over a barrel because he was playing well, and now he's gone back to slow and not very good, another two seasons is it? Money well spent there, same with Perch and Quinn, it needed new younger blood, but he stuck with the tried and tested.


Ridiculous post. You don’t know details of the contract but think it’s not a good idea to sign a player because he is playing well ?



Look at O Toole and how he's moved around. We have signed a lot of old players on extensions, and most have been 1 year too long on all of them, especially if we are looking for promotion, because you let players go if you go up. Northampton did it with O Toole no? We should have signed him, because he was having a possitive impact on the team, but the length of the contract was too long, but O Toole knew Clough needed him. If you cant see that, then that's not my fault.
I hope they all prove me wrong and get promoted, but Boateng and Oates are big losses, and I'm not sure if we will see Oates back this year?


Did you see it and post at the time the offer was being made to O’ Toole ?
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby gazza1988 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:34 pm

Just flicked back to their first goal.

What was that? Nobody seemed to know what they should be doing. Bowery pretty much on the left wing and as they break towards where bowery should be he jogs back. He' doesn't try to run untill Khan's touch past O'Toole (who may as well not been there).

The 2nd. Perch slid in and ends up cushioning the pass for the intended target for grimsby. Looked like he was trying to flick the ball to Wallace but doesn't get anywhere enough on the pass to get anywhere near him. Bowery immediately leaves his man to close him down leaving him free to run at flinders and knock it past him.

It begs the question. Is it good enough strength in depth or do we actually need a good backup left wing back and centre back?
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:35 pm

1970Stag wrote:
Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:What worries me is that Clough will do stuff like this in a game that matters.
Squad is threadbare and we have yet another injury, but at least that gives him a ready made excuse.
And what contract did we give O Toole when he had us over a barrel because he was playing well, and now he's gone back to slow and not very good, another two seasons is it? Money well spent there, same with Perch and Quinn, it needed new younger blood, but he stuck with the tried and tested.


Ridiculous post. You don’t know details of the contract but think it’s not a good idea to sign a player because he is playing well ?



Look at O Toole and how he's moved around. We have signed a lot of old players on extensions, and most have been 1 year too long on all of them, especially if we are looking for promotion, because you let players go if you go up. Northampton did it with O Toole no? We should have signed him, because he was having a possitive impact on the team, but the length of the contract was too long, but O Toole knew Clough needed him. If you cant see that, then that's not my fault.
I hope they all prove me wrong and get promoted, but Boateng and Oates are big losses, and I'm not sure if we will see Oates back this year?


O'Toole had a good offer from Donny and our supporters where behind the club to sign him .
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby AshoverStag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:42 pm

Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:
Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:What worries me is that Clough will do stuff like this in a game that matters.
Squad is threadbare and we have yet another injury, but at least that gives him a ready made excuse.
And what contract did we give O Toole when he had us over a barrel because he was playing well, and now he's gone back to slow and not very good, another two seasons is it? Money well spent there, same with Perch and Quinn, it needed new younger blood, but he stuck with the tried and tested.


Ridiculous post. You don’t know details of the contract but think it’s not a good idea to sign a player because he is playing well ?



Look at O Toole and how he's moved around. We have signed a lot of old players on extensions, and most have been 1 year too long on all of them, especially if we are looking for promotion, because you let players go if you go up. Northampton did it with O Toole no? We should have signed him, because he was having a possitive impact on the team, but the length of the contract was too long, but O Toole knew Clough needed him. If you cant see that, then that's not my fault.
I hope they all prove me wrong and get promoted, but Boateng and Oates are big losses, and I'm not sure if we will see Oates back this year?


Did you see it and post at the time the offer was being made to O’ Toole ?


Who cares what offer he got. He’s poor. Couldn’t pass the ball last season but AtLeast he anticipated well, which made up for being slow. He seems to have lost his ability to anticipate as well now, and judge things. He’s caught out often, and his passing is big ooof
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby 1970Stag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:45 pm

Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:
Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:What worries me is that Clough will do stuff like this in a game that matters.
Squad is threadbare and we have yet another injury, but at least that gives him a ready made excuse.
And what contract did we give O Toole when he had us over a barrel because he was playing well, and now he's gone back to slow and not very good, another two seasons is it? Money well spent there, same with Perch and Quinn, it needed new younger blood, but he stuck with the tried and tested.


Ridiculous post. You don’t know details of the contract but think it’s not a good idea to sign a player because he is playing well ?



Look at O Toole and how he's moved around. We have signed a lot of old players on extensions, and most have been 1 year too long on all of them, especially if we are looking for promotion, because you let players go if you go up. Northampton did it with O Toole no? We should have signed him, because he was having a possitive impact on the team, but the length of the contract was too long, but O Toole knew Clough needed him. If you cant see that, then that's not my fault.
I hope they all prove me wrong and get promoted, but Boateng and Oates are big losses, and I'm not sure if we will see Oates back this year?


Did you see it and post at the time the offer was being made to O’ Toole ?


Every time I think the club is making a bad decision, you think I should post about it on here? I talk to my son and brother about it instead. I'd have just got shouted down as a negative nelly, so I keep those thoughts to myself. If he gets us promoted, I'd have been the first to put my hand up and say I thought that long contract was a mistake, glad it wasn't. I have said all along this squad is too old and too slow though. Does that count?
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby georgefostersbeard » Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:19 pm

AshoverStag wrote:
Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:
Elkesley Stag wrote:
1970Stag wrote:What worries me is that Clough will do stuff like this in a game that matters.
Squad is threadbare and we have yet another injury, but at least that gives him a ready made excuse.
And what contract did we give O Toole when he had us over a barrel because he was playing well, and now he's gone back to slow and not very good, another two seasons is it? Money well spent there, same with Perch and Quinn, it needed new younger blood, but he stuck with the tried and tested.


Ridiculous post. You don’t know details of the contract but think it’s not a good idea to sign a player because he is playing well ?



Look at O Toole and how he's moved around. We have signed a lot of old players on extensions, and most have been 1 year too long on all of them, especially if we are looking for promotion, because you let players go if you go up. Northampton did it with O Toole no? We should have signed him, because he was having a possitive impact on the team, but the length of the contract was too long, but O Toole knew Clough needed him. If you cant see that, then that's not my fault.
I hope they all prove me wrong and get promoted, but Boateng and Oates are big losses, and I'm not sure if we will see Oates back this year?


Did you see it and post at the time the offer was being made to O’ Toole ?


Who cares what offer he got. He’s poor. Couldn’t pass the ball last season but AtLeast he anticipated well, which made up for being slow. He seems to have lost his ability to anticipate as well now, and judge things. He’s caught out often, and his passing is big ooof



Sorry, I am a bit lost. Can you give examples of O'Toole not being able to pass last season. I am genuinely mystified by this.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby Rob » Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:34 pm

stag324 wrote:Well done to the guys who have travelled

Hopefully the fish n chips were worth it.


They were marvellous!

Definitely a game of two halves both played at our end of the ground. We played much better 2nd half when Bowery switched to LWB and Hewitt brought on. However, it once again highlighted the squad depth just isn't there, as many of us have been saying all season. Fingers crossed on the injury front!

This game was worth 10k and getting to the Final was worth hundreds of thousands to clubs like Lincoln. I get some aren't bothered, but I would imagine our owner is.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby NEStag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:16 pm

Post match interview says Hartigan has dislocated his shoulder. He will be out for a few weeks Clough said.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby NEStag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:17 pm

He also mentions Boateng currently being out. When he was originally injured two or three weeks ago they said he’d be back in 1 - 2 weeks so must be worse than anticipated.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby stag324 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:45 pm

Rob wrote:
stag324 wrote:Well done to the guys who have travelled

Hopefully the fish n chips were worth it.


They were marvellous!

Definitely a game of two halves both played at our end of the ground. We played much better 2nd half when Bowery switched to LWB and Hewitt brought on. However, it once again highlighted the squad depth just isn't there, as many of us have been saying all season. Fingers crossed on the injury front!

This game was worth 10k and getting to the Final was worth hundreds of thousands to clubs like Lincoln. I get some aren't bothered, but I would imagine our owner is.


I agree Rob a game of two halves but that first half was as bad as I’ve seen for a few years.
Second half we looked better but still devoid of ideas up front.

Also agreed the money is important and all those saying it’s a waste of time should realise winning it could help us sign that CB or CF we all know we need.

Glad the fish n chips were good
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby part time pete » Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:48 pm

The game reminded me of the Salford game, gave them two early goals then played a lot better second half but couldn’t score.

Yes the fish and chips were very good.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby SeanieStag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:14 pm

Absolute rhubarb tonight. The Hartigan injury is a massive blow as I’d say he’s been one of our best players so far. Luckily we’ve got lots of other midfielders to replace him with so it won’t be felt as much if it was a defender or striker.

I agree with the above comment about O’Toole going off the boil, it started at the back end of last season. He’s not the only one though, Macca and Oates (before injury) haven’t really got going this season. That’s football though, Akins is playing well after an average first season and Lapslie is coming good.
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby SeanieStag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:17 pm

part time pete wrote:The game reminded me of the Salford game.


This game reminded me of when I volunteered for the Samaritans.
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Postby Nutty Stag » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:37 pm

Anyone else notice that JJ's form went out the window when he started to grow his hair again?
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Re: Cods scorefred sponsored by no more golf talk

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:24 am

Having slept on that match, I still can’t see many positives from the game.

We made a shed load of changes but apart from Gale, every member of that team are supposed to be capable of carrying the club to promotion. On the evidence of the first half, that would never happen. Posters have insisted that we have enough cover in defence, especially at centre half, but the first 45 minutes show that is far from the truth.

Our team is built on a very strong midfield with its energy providing the main chances of winning football matches. Last night showed just how weak our team really is when that midfield is not on top form and how the myth of squad depth is simply untrue.

Remember Grimsby also made 9 changes from their league team. Which squad looked more resilient?

I must give some perspective by acknowledging that we were much better in the second half but will point out that even then, we never really looked capable of turning the match around. Perhaps with a few more of the regular players on the pitch that may not have been the case.

We can only look towards the next league game and hopefully normal service will be resumed. Very nice to see Mr Law back on the field and I’ll take that as the biggest positive of the night.
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