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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby MTFCMusings » Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:28 am

Not entirely true Sandy, the graphic doesn’t tell the whole story. We’re outscoring our xG, having scored 41 but our xG is 36.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:18 am

MTFCMusings wrote:Not entirely true Sandy, the graphic doesn’t tell the whole story. We’re outscoring our xG, having scored 41 but our xG is 36.


Ok. So we are scoring more than expected but not by as many more as the two teams who are out scoring us.

Doesn’t that say something about the xg concept altogether though? I think it probably says a lot about our shooting capabilities as the forwards are getting into the positions but the quality of shooting is weak. We just don’t seem to smack them in like other teams when the opportunity is there which I suppose highlights the weaknesses of the xg system not taking into account the individual skill levels of players.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby gazza1988 » Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:45 am

We are 3rd highest goalscorers. Good enough for a top 3 finish.

Goals win games. A good defence secures 3 points.

We've kept 7 clean sheets. 17th in the table for clean sheets.

Let's not forget that we've not kept a clean sheet since the 10th December. It'll be 2 whole months since we last got one by the time we play Gillingham. Last time we played Gillingham we kept a clean sheet.

We are joint 8th in the away clean shetts table with 4 (most is afc Wimbledon with 6) and we are joint 18th in the home clean sheet table with 3 (the most is Leyton orient with 13)

If only we'd signed the extra CB and LWB we desperately needed in January. Then the injury news we got today would be easily dealt with.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:53 am

I can’t blame the club or manager for not signing more in January. I was happy with the squad and it looked like we had adequate numbers. To lose so many players in just two games (first 30 mins in both) is almost unprecedented and the fact some are new recruits make it worse and harder to take.

We won’t be going down and I’m much happier with the balance of the squad than I was pre window. We aren’t finished yet and maybe there will be a few postponements to allow injuries to heal.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Rob » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:11 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I can’t blame the club or manager for not signing more in January. I was happy with the squad and it looked like we had adequate numbers. To lose so many players in just two games (first 30 mins in both) is almost unprecedented and the fact some are new recruits make it worse and harder to take.

We won’t be going down and I’m much happier with the balance of the squad than I was pre window. We aren’t finished yet and maybe there will be a few postponements to allow injuries to heal.


You wouldn't have signed cover for Macca, our only LWB/LB who was also clearly struggling with injuries?

The squad is too small for top 3, no doubt about it.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Marky Mark » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:16 pm

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MTFCMusings wrote:Not entirely true Sandy, the graphic doesn’t tell the whole story. We’re outscoring our xG, having scored 41 but our xG is 36.


Ok. So we are scoring more than expected but not by as many more as the two teams who are out scoring us.

Doesn’t that say something about the xg concept altogether though? I think it probably says a lot about our shooting capabilities as the forwards are getting into the positions but the quality of shooting is weak. We just don’t seem to smack them in like other teams when the opportunity is there which I suppose highlights the weaknesses of the xg system not taking into account the individual skill levels of players.


Feels to me like Keillor Dunn has been brought in exactly to help put more of these chances away that go begging - whatever our eyes tells us, the reality in the stats is that we create loads of chances, have loads of shots and score a lot of goals. If we put some more of these chances away that we create as well as tighten up a little more at the back then we can only go further forward.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Tue Feb 07, 2023 12:54 pm

Rob wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I can’t blame the club or manager for not signing more in January. I was happy with the squad and it looked like we had adequate numbers. To lose so many players in just two games (first 30 mins in both) is almost unprecedented and the fact some are new recruits make it worse and harder to take.

We won’t be going down and I’m much happier with the balance of the squad than I was pre window. We aren’t finished yet and maybe there will be a few postponements to allow injuries to heal.


You wouldn't have signed cover for Macca, our only LWB/LB who was also clearly struggling with injuries?

The squad is too small for top 3, no doubt about it.


If you are going to sign a player for cover, they are by definition not a first choice player. We have plenty of utility players who are capable of covering in the short term so unless we were going to sign a first choice player to permanently replace Macca, no I wouldn’t have signed one.

It obviously isn’t ideal that we have sustained so many injuries in a short term but I don’t see the squad as being fatally injured. We can still put out a team that can compete especially if we revert to a back four. It is the bench that is weak especially if we pick up more injuries or suspensions.

A back four of Hewitt, Harbottle, Kilgour and Perch can do an adequate temporary job. If necessary Akins can go to right back and move Hewitt to the left. Sit Maris in front of them with Clarke right and Quinn on the left and DKD behind a front two of Swan and Johnson. If you don’t use Akins at the back, he would play with Swan. An alternative target man could be Bowery. We still wouldn’t have used Wallace or Boeteng who can also do a job and O’Toole. Law and Gale won’t be long before they are back and we also have Knowles.

So Rob if you want a shorter answer, I wouldn’t have signed a left back but of course hindsight probably says otherwise but only because of the extra injuries.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Rob » Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:01 pm

It's not hindsight, Macca was already injured and out for at least month before the window closed.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby part time pete » Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:20 pm

Rob wrote:It's not hindsight, Macca was already injured and out for at least month before the window closed.


Didn’t we sign Page as cover for McLaughlin ;)
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Rob » Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:30 pm

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Rob wrote:It's not hindsight, Macca was already injured and out for at least month before the window closed.


Didn’t we sign Page as cover for McLaughlin ;)


Yes that went well, he's not our player any more though of course we could sign him if he regains fitness. Clearly Clough knows we needed cover so I am at a loss why we didn't sign anyone - these current injuries are nothing really to do with that decision, though of course they do make it look even worse!
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:57 pm

I know you disagree Rob and that’s why we have this forum, for debate and I respect everyone’s view but I wouldn’t have signed anyone for only cover as we already have players who can do that. If we hadn’t sustained the extra injuries we wouldn’t be debating this.

I also realise you have been putting this view forward for some time and my hindsight comment was not a dig at you but merely lamenting the fact that injuries on this scale are extremely unlucky.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby bellwhiff » Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:48 am

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:I know you disagree Rob and that’s why we have this forum, for debate and I respect everyone’s view but I wouldn’t have signed anyone for only cover as we already have players who can do that. If we hadn’t sustained the extra injuries we wouldn’t be debating this.

I also realise you have been putting this view forward for some time and my hindsight comment was not a dig at you but merely lamenting the fact that injuries on this scale are extremely unlucky.

It’s not unlucky. It’s pretty usual. To have them happen in one half is unusual but not the overall total.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby MTFCMusings » Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:38 am

A stat I saw earlier, no team between 6th and 15th in League Two has won more that once in their last four games.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:53 pm

I recommend the FotMob app to anyone out there, lots of nice stats on there as well as the general things the other live score apps provide.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Martin Shaw » Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:59 pm

"Four points clear as Lincoln are McCaffreyised", CHAD headline, April 1975
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Stag95 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:50 am

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Martin Shaw » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:52 am

Martin Shaw wrote:

Playmakerstats have deleted their tweet from Monday, which listed Mansfield as the only club in League Two to have scored in every game in 2023. The tweet was wrong for some clubs in other divisions (thanks to Musings for working that out)
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:04 pm

I was watching the Carlisle game back on iFollow and the Carlisle commentator said that Mansfield had only won 1 away league game on a Tuesday night in 17 attempts. It brought back bad memories from the 2nd half of last season!

I checked on Stagsnet and made it 2 Tuesday night wins in 16 attempts. Now 3 in 17.

The Cambridge away win in 2020-2021 was on a Wednesday night.


2022-2023
Carlisle United 0 Mansfield Town 4

2021-2022
Colchester United 1 Mansfield Town 1
Sutton United 2 Mansfield Town 0
Harrogate Town 0 Mansfield Town 0
Port Vale 3 Mansfield Town 1
Rochdale 0 Mansfield Town 1
Hartlepool United 2 Mansfield Town 2
Forest Green Rovers 1 Mansfield Town 0

2020-2021
Morecambe 1 Mansfield Town 1
Bolton Wanderers 1 Mansfield Town 1
Carlisle United 1 Mansfield Town 0
Oldham Athletic 2 Mansfield Town 3
Walsall 1 Mansfield Town 1
Harrogate Town 1 Mansfield Town 0
Bradford City 1 Mansfield Town 0

2019-2020
Oldham Athletic 3 Mansfield Town 1
Leyton Orient 2 Mansfield Town 1
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby The One » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:27 pm

Were we wearing Coventry strip TTF
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby MTFCMusings » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:49 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:I was watching the Carlisle game back on iFollow and the Carlisle commentator said that Mansfield had only won 1 away league game on a Tuesday night in 17 attempts. It brought back bad memories from the 2nd half of last season!

I checked on Stagsnet and made it 2 Tuesday night wins in 16 attempts. Now 3 in 17.

The Cambridge away win in 2020-2021 was on a Wednesday night.


2022-2023
Carlisle United 0 Mansfield Town 4

2021-2022
Colchester United 1 Mansfield Town 1
Sutton United 2 Mansfield Town 0
Harrogate Town 0 Mansfield Town 0
Port Vale 3 Mansfield Town 1
Rochdale 0 Mansfield Town 1
Hartlepool United 2 Mansfield Town 2
Forest Green Rovers 1 Mansfield Town 0

2020-2021
Morecambe 1 Mansfield Town 1
Bolton Wanderers 1 Mansfield Town 1
Carlisle United 1 Mansfield Town 0
Oldham Athletic 2 Mansfield Town 3
Walsall 1 Mansfield Town 1
Harrogate Town 1 Mansfield Town 0
Bradford City 1 Mansfield Town 0

2019-2020
Oldham Athletic 3 Mansfield Town 1
Leyton Orient 2 Mansfield Town 1


We have won two on Wednesdays and one on a Thursday since then though!
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:53 pm

The One wrote:Were we wearing Coventry strip TTF


No but we should still burn it!!

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Salford City 2 Mansfield Town 2
Salford City 2 Mansfield Town 0
Leyton Orient 1 Mansfield Town 0
Sutton United 2 Mansfield Town 1
Rochdale 0 Mansfield Town 1
Harrogate Town 3 Mansfield Town 1
Walsall 2 Mansfield Town 1
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Martin Shaw » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:28 pm

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:55 pm

What I like about that is the hashtag. Stags.
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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Martin Shaw » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:02 pm

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Re: Mansfield Town and League Two Statistics 2022 - 2023

Postby Rob » Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

Can anyone remember which season we last conceded 5 at home in two league games?
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