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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Martin Shaw » Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:36 pm

oldweststander wrote:Not good enough for a team fancied for a top three spot.


utter nonsense.

We were very good indeed last night.
Thoroughly deserved win on Saturday.
Some defensive poor stuff against Salford cost us the game.
We were very good indeed in pre-season.
In 2022, we have won as many league games as Liverpool, and only Bristol Rovers in the top four leagues have won more games (one more than us).

What are you going to be like if we hit poor form?
For crying out loud. As someone else says, get a grip.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:57 pm

And I thought Man Utd fans were entitled moaning gits.

Well said Martin
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Oladamber66 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:10 pm

All i can add is go on Bobs deluded boardstiff and see what that set of sad lads come up with and we are moaning after 3 games ..but then again its always a good laugh on the old bobs sheep dippers board :lol: :coys:
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Rob » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:13 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:And I thought Man Utd fans were entitled moaning gits.

Well said Martin


We put in a truly superb performance last night and about half our squad have been outed today :lol:
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby bear 73 » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:24 pm

oldweststander wrote:Hi,

I think after three games you must have come to the same conclusion as I and many other supporters have, that being, you can't fill your team with "Jacks of all trades". You do need specialists in the spine of the team, you know that better than anyone.

Goalkeeper - sorted.

Centre-back - half way there, we still need a mobile central defender.

Striker - we again are halfway there but we need another experienced body to help and guide Oates.

The two lads on loan from Nottingham Forest have potential but neither are the finished article.

The supporters have excelled themselves regarding season ticket sales, showing great faith in you and the club. The side is at least a centre back short, Hawkins can go back up top and we would be,a better side.


Putting square pegs in round holes has delivered 2 sending offs at centre-back in four first team fixtures.

I take it in your world playing a recognized, centre half and recognized centre foward and you win matches.
Good idea now explain why Mansfield are still in league 2 and never been in league 1.
Message to Nigel please put the future of the club first and keep putting the building blocks in place
4-500 season tickets have bought into moving the club forward without risking the financial future of the club..
Someone said last night i have not heard a aimospher like tonight for 40 years
.Message to Nigel you are the best signing we made
The last time The club played at Wembley in a play off final 2004.
After 2 games 1 point of 7th plus 1 cup game were we could only play certain players because our league campaign.comes first
And you have a message for a Manager who has HUGE respect in the game WHOOSH




Not good enough for a team fancied for a top three spot.

who said we would finish top three
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:34 pm

Rob wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:And I thought Man Utd fans were entitled moaning gits.

Well said Martin


We put in a truly superb performance last night and about half our squad have been outed today :lol:



It's a very weird reaction. If that performance is anything to come by we look like we'll rip teams apart in the league. We played well against Tranmere too. I'm not pretending everything is perfect but after 3 games I think we look better than last season in the way we play football.

Think some just need to take a step back and just look at what we have.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Billy the fish » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:38 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


It’s not 3 games though is it Bobby this is last seasons shortcomings and was there to see has we stumbled into the playoffs . The addition of Boatang and Pym is a genuine improvement but we are well short of quality in vital positions which have been well documented by most . Sign a Goal scorer and a commanding CB and bar injuries we won’t be far away ..
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby yorkshire stag » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:52 pm

Billy the fish wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


It’s not 3 games though is it Bobby this is last seasons shortcomings and was there to see has we stumbled into the playoffs . The addition of Boatang and Pym is a genuine improvement but we are well short of quality in vital positions which have been well documented by most . Sign a Goal scorer and a commanding CB and bar injuries we won’t be far away ..


again spot on, some absolute blind lemmings on here sometime
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby SeanieStag » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:57 pm

I love how people are demanding a new centre back and striker like they are on a shelf in a supermarket and we just have to put them in the trolley. I agree that we need to improve these areas but the players available in our budget that are better than what we already have are few and far between. In terms of a player’s position I’m sure he’d love to have a squad of players that excel in one position who can also provide great cover elsewhere. These players are again in short supply and we have a choice of players that are good in one role or are average to good in a few. With such a small squad of only 17 outfield players I think he is absolutely right to pad out the team with utility players so that, theoretically, a position can always be covered.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby oldweststander » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:58 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
oldweststander wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


Yes, most certainly.

Two makeshift centre backs sent off in the last four games, I include the play off final, plus we have not tested the opposition goalkeepers nearly enough, shot count means nothing if you hit the stand.

To be fair Bobby, wouldn't it be better scoring goals now rather than waiting until January to try and rescue the situation.


Only three teams have had more shots on target than us in the league so far.


And we have beaten the keeper once and tested him rarely in the league.

It's not about shots, time the stato's looked at testing the opposition's keeper, shots that don't need saving are pointless so why count them?
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Amber Andy » Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:58 pm

Billy the fish wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


It’s not 3 games though is it Bobby this is last seasons shortcomings and was there to see has we stumbled into the playoffs . The addition of Boatang and Pym is a genuine improvement but we are well short of quality in vital positions which have been well documented by most . Sign a Goal scorer and a commanding CB and bar injuries we won’t be far away ..
Last years "shortcomings" ! We got to the play off final.

Were you around under Dempster ? Or have you a short memory?
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby oldweststander » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:07 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


It’s not 3 games though is it Bobby this is last seasons shortcomings and was there to see has we stumbled into the playoffs . The addition of Boatang and Pym is a genuine improvement but we are well short of quality in vital positions which have been well documented by most . Sign a Goal scorer and a commanding CB and bar injuries we won’t be far away ..
Last years "shortcomings" ! We got to the play off final.

Were you around under Dempster ? Or have you a short memory?


Irrelevant comment, I've been around since Raich Carter mate and I'm not all doom and gloom. It seems I'm not alone, if indeed in the minority, we have immense shortcomings in central defence and lack of finish up front nothing that cannot be put right. The cheap option would be a new mobile central defender, who is out of nappies, allowing Hawkins to play up front.

Just love it when the "rose colored glasses guys" retaliate, they know everything, ha, ha.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:12 pm

yorkshire stag wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


It’s not 3 games though is it Bobby this is last seasons shortcomings and was there to see has we stumbled into the playoffs . The addition of Boatang and Pym is a genuine improvement but we are well short of quality in vital positions which have been well documented by most . Sign a Goal scorer and a commanding CB and bar injuries we won’t be far away ..


again spot on, some absolute blind lemmings on here sometime



:lol:

If we get another signing, you'll be demanding another one straight away. It's never ever good enough for you.
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Re: Message to Nigrl

Postby Cleveland_Stag » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:16 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:We’re only gonna get one more incoming unless there are outgoings/injuries. I’d be happy with a striker or a defender.

Your point about the Forest lads, I think they’ve looked more than adequate in the games so far. And the only way they’re going to become the finished article as you say, is by playing more games, that is what they’re here for.

We’ve outshot the opposition in every game so far, things are looking promising as far as I’m concerned.

I would prefer it to be a centre half and let Hawkins play up front. I agree with you about the Forest youngsters.


I agree.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby oldweststander » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:25 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


It’s not 3 games though is it Bobby this is last seasons shortcomings and was there to see has we stumbled into the playoffs . The addition of Boatang and Pym is a genuine improvement but we are well short of quality in vital positions which have been well documented by most . Sign a Goal scorer and a commanding CB and bar injuries we won’t be far away ..


again spot on, some absolute blind lemmings on here sometime



:lol:

If we get another signing, you'll be demanding another one straight away. It's never ever good enough for you.


You really do seem as childish as your name implies.

Read what I put, a mobile centre back allowing Hawkins to go back up front. That simple even for you young Bobby. No more signings, just the one.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:32 pm

oldweststander wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


It’s not 3 games though is it Bobby this is last seasons shortcomings and was there to see has we stumbled into the playoffs . The addition of Boatang and Pym is a genuine improvement but we are well short of quality in vital positions which have been well documented by most . Sign a Goal scorer and a commanding CB and bar injuries we won’t be far away ..


again spot on, some absolute blind lemmings on here sometime



:lol:

If we get another signing, you'll be demanding another one straight away. It's never ever good enough for you.


You really do seem as childish as your name implies.

Read what I put, a mobile centre back allowing Hawkins to go back up front. That simple even for you young Bobby. No more signings, just the one.



Read who I quoted.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby StagInHucknall » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:36 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:
oldweststander wrote:Not good enough for a team fancied for a top three spot.


utter nonsense.

We were very good indeed last night.
Throughly deserved win on Saturday.
Some defensive poor stuff against Salford cost us the game.
We were very good indeed in pre-season.
In 2022, we have won as many league games as Liverpool, and only Bristol Rovers in the top four leagues have won more games (one more than us).

What are you going to be like if we hit poor form?
For crying out loud. As someone else says, get a grip.


Exactly!

We were f-ing awesome last night!

So proud of little ‘ol Mansfield last night. Did Nottinghamshire proud.

The better team lost and now off the back of that performance everyone supporting Mansfield should be super excited about this season and what’s to come.

Yes I would love to see Hawks stay up front permanently but it’s what the manager does for a living so I’ll leave it up to him.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Amber Andy » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:43 pm

SeanieStag wrote:I love how people are demanding a new centre back and striker like they are on a shelf in a supermarket and we just have to put them in the trolley. I agree that we need to improve these areas but the players available in our budget that are better than what we already have are few and far between. In terms of a player’s position I’m sure he’d love to have a squad of players that excel in one position who can also provide great cover elsewhere. These players are again in short supply and we have a choice of players that are good in one role or are average to good in a few. With such a small squad of only 17 outfield players I think he is absolutely right to pad out the team with utility players so that, theoretically, a position can always be covered.
Exactly. This thread is ridiculous. NC wants to sign the best that we can afford. Not every player targeted will come for a whole host of reasons. Plenty of time left in the current window. Three games in. Some need to show patience.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:53 pm

oldweststander wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
oldweststander wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


Yes, most certainly.

Two makeshift centre backs sent off in the last four games, I include the play off final, plus we have not tested the opposition goalkeepers nearly enough, shot count means nothing if you hit the stand.

To be fair Bobby, wouldn't it be better scoring goals now rather than waiting until January to try and rescue the situation.


Only three teams have had more shots on target than us in the league so far.


And we have beaten the keeper once and tested him rarely in the league.

It's not about shots, time the stato's looked at testing the opposition's keeper, shots that don't need saving are pointless so why count them?


I’ve literally quoted the stats for shots on target. That is shots that the keeper had to save. What part of that is not testing the keeper?
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Amber Andy » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:44 pm

oldweststander wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
oldweststander wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:You have come to the decision after 3 games we are not good enough for top 3, amazing.


Yes, most certainly.

Two makeshift centre backs sent off in the last four games, I include the play off final, plus we have not tested the opposition goalkeepers nearly enough, shot count means nothing if you hit the stand.

To be fair Bobby, wouldn't it be better scoring goals now rather than waiting until January to try and rescue the situation.


Only three teams have had more shots on target than us in the league so far.


And we have beaten the keeper once and tested him rarely in the league.

It's not about shots, time the stato's looked at testing the opposition's keeper, shots that don't need saving are pointless so why count them?
Not as pointless as this thread ows.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby broomo » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:51 pm

The great thing about being a critical fan on a fans forum?

Every team you would have picked would definitely have won the game, or won it better.

Every substitution you would have made would have changed the game in our favour.

Every player you signed would have been a massive hit.

Every player you wanted to sign would have walked to Mansfield to play for us and would probably do it for free, certainly for peanuts at the most.

No one would get injured, suspended, lose form, moan about not starting, or even make a mistake during a game, ever.

You would set up the team to tactically out class any manager or team you come up against, irrespective of their quality.

Your record in the league would be P46 W46 D0 L0 F184 A0 P138

None of those things can ever be proven right or wrong because you do it in fantasy land.

It's genuinely bizarre to me that folk post the stuff they do without a hint of irony or self awareness.

There seems to be a genuine belief that what they say and think is always right.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Kalibobs » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:54 pm

I've got tk agree tbh this is the second season messing around without a CH and a Striker missing
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:55 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
SeanieStag wrote:I love how people are demanding a new centre back and striker like they are on a shelf in a supermarket and we just have to put them in the trolley. I agree that we need to improve these areas but the players available in our budget that are better than what we already have are few and far between. In terms of a player’s position I’m sure he’d love to have a squad of players that excel in one position who can also provide great cover elsewhere. These players are again in short supply and we have a choice of players that are good in one role or are average to good in a few. With such a small squad of only 17 outfield players I think he is absolutely right to pad out the team with utility players so that, theoretically, a position can always be covered.
Exactly. This thread is ridiculous. NC wants to sign the best that we can afford. Not every player targeted will come for a whole host of reasons. Plenty of time left in the current window. Three games in. Some need to show patience.


Except Nigel has said that his squad is complete unless someone leaves. It doesn’t matter how much time is left in the window if there is no intention to bring anyone in.

I understand about not buying a striker and am confident we will score a reasonable amount of goals. What I don’t believe is that we have enough strength or depth at the back against teams that play the ball on the floor. That was a problem last season as demonstrated at Wembley and also by our failure to beat any top team away from home. There are more ball playing teams in this league this year.

We were a spent force towards the end of the season with the players being understandably suffering from fatigue. The two games against Northampton were well above the standard we had slipped to and probably flattered to deceive that things were rosey.

In respect of who said we were going for the top three, I’m pretty certain that both Nigel and Sharpe have stated their intention of getting promotion this year preferably without the playoffs. That means a top three finish.

I certainly won’t be shouting for more players if we sign a recognised experienced centre half with a modicum of pace and would be fairly confident that would balance the team enough to achieve the stated aim.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:57 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
SeanieStag wrote:I love how people are demanding a new centre back and striker like they are on a shelf in a supermarket and we just have to put them in the trolley. I agree that we need to improve these areas but the players available in our budget that are better than what we already have are few and far between. In terms of a player’s position I’m sure he’d love to have a squad of players that excel in one position who can also provide great cover elsewhere. These players are again in short supply and we have a choice of players that are good in one role or are average to good in a few. With such a small squad of only 17 outfield players I think he is absolutely right to pad out the team with utility players so that, theoretically, a position can always be covered.
Exactly. This thread is ridiculous. NC wants to sign the best that we can afford. Not every player targeted will come for a whole host of reasons. Plenty of time left in the current window. Three games in. Some need to show patience.


Except Nigel has said that his squad is complete unless someone leaves. It doesn’t matter how much time is left in the window if there is no intention to bring anyone in.

I understand about not buying a striker and am confident we will score a reasonable amount of goals. What I don’t believe is that we have enough strength or depth at the back against teams that play the ball on the floor. That was a problem last season as demonstrated at Wembley and also by our failure to beat any top team away from home. There are more ball playing teams in this league this year.

We were a spent force towards the end of the season with the players being understandably suffering from fatigue. The two games against Northampton were well above the standard we had slipped to and probably flattered to deceive that things were rosey.

In respect of who said we were going for the top three, I’m pretty certain that both Nigel and Sharpe have stated their intention of getting promotion this year preferably without the playoffs. That means a top three finish.

I certainly won’t be shouting for more players if we sign a recognised experienced centre half with a modicum of pace and would be fairly confident that would balance the team enough to achieve the stated aim.


He said last night he is looking to bring one more in.
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Re: Message to Nigel

Postby Amber Andy » Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:00 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
SeanieStag wrote:I love how people are demanding a new centre back and striker like they are on a shelf in a supermarket and we just have to put them in the trolley. I agree that we need to improve these areas but the players available in our budget that are better than what we already have are few and far between. In terms of a player’s position I’m sure he’d love to have a squad of players that excel in one position who can also provide great cover elsewhere. These players are again in short supply and we have a choice of players that are good in one role or are average to good in a few. With such a small squad of only 17 outfield players I think he is absolutely right to pad out the team with utility players so that, theoretically, a position can always be covered.
Exactly. This thread is ridiculous. NC wants to sign the best that we can afford. Not every player targeted will come for a whole host of reasons. Plenty of time left in the current window. Three games in. Some need to show patience.


Except Nigel has said that his squad is complete unless someone leaves. It doesn’t matter how much time is left in the window if there is no intention to bring anyone in.

I understand about not buying a striker and am confident we will score a reasonable amount of goals. What I don’t believe is that we have enough strength or depth at the back against teams that play the ball on the floor. That was a problem last season as demonstrated at Wembley and also by our failure to beat any top team away from home. There are more ball playing teams in this league this year.

We were a spent force towards the end of the season with the players being understandably suffering from fatigue. The two games against Northampton were well above the standard we had slipped to and probably flattered to deceive that things were rosey.

In respect of who said we were going for the top three, I’m pretty certain that both Nigel and Sharpe have stated their intention of getting promotion this year preferably without the playoffs. That means a top three finish.

I certainly won’t be shouting for more players if we sign a recognised experienced centre half with a modicum of pace and would be fairly confident that would balance the team enough to achieve the stated aim.
I agree. There is still plenty of time to sign such a player.
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