Bradders wrote:It's probably better to use the term "assistant referee" rather than "lineswoman". I think that the linesman/lineswoman name went out of use in 1996. Obviously, supporters can use whatever version they like, but in a match report the outdated term looks a bit clunky.
Martin Shaw wrote:I've changed it on this occasion. I've got no intention of routinely removing any reference to "linesman" in future though as it is a well-used phrase and I will continue to use a mixture.
By the way, while you can argue the assistant referee got the decision right on the Swan offside, I don't think she did. When Swan got the ball, she clearly kept her flag down, I was looking to see. When Hawkins got the ball, she raised her flag. Hawkins was not offside. Swan had been. It may be that the referee said into her earpiece that Swan was offside and she then raised her flag late.
Bradders wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:I've changed it on this occasion. I've got no intention of routinely removing any reference to "linesman" in future though as it is a well-used phrase and I will continue to use a mixture.
By the way, while you can argue the assistant referee got the decision right on the Swan offside, I don't think she did. When Swan got the ball, she clearly kept her flag down, I was looking to see. When Hawkins got the ball, she raised her flag. Hawkins was not offside. Swan had been. It may be that the referee said into her earpiece that Swan was offside and she then raised her flag late.
From your report it sounds like Swan should indeed have been deemed offside. The point is that deflections, rebounds and saves from the defending players don't count as a pass. So if Swan was in an offside position, the deflection and save doesn't give him immunity from being offside. If the goalkeeper had saved the shot and then intentionally cleared the ball, then it would have been different matter.
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Martin Shaw wrote:Bradders wrote:Martin Shaw wrote:I've changed it on this occasion. I've got no intention of routinely removing any reference to "linesman" in future though as it is a well-used phrase and I will continue to use a mixture.
By the way, while you can argue the assistant referee got the decision right on the Swan offside, I don't think she did. When Swan got the ball, she clearly kept her flag down, I was looking to see. When Hawkins got the ball, she raised her flag. Hawkins was not offside. Swan had been. It may be that the referee said into her earpiece that Swan was offside and she then raised her flag late.
From your report it sounds like Swan should indeed have been deemed offside. The point is that deflections, rebounds and saves from the defending players don't count as a pass. So if Swan was in an offside position, the deflection and save doesn't give him immunity from being offside. If the goalkeeper had saved the shot and then intentionally cleared the ball, then it would have been different matter.
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in my post here, I am talking about when Hawkins was flagged offside on 62 minutes (when Swan should have been).
I think you are replying about when Swan was flagged offside after 46 minutes.
Slightly confusing.
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Martin Shaw wrote:well... I don't think it is straightforward. Odurah deliberately stretched to block the ball ...
His shot deflected off defender Kwaku Oduroh and the keeper parried it away. It came to Swan who tucked the rebound into the net
Martin Shaw wrote:I think, based on the Dermot Gallagher analysis, it should be onside, as the defender tried to clear the ball. However, it is clearly a very murky area.
Martin Shaw wrote:there was a similar incident for Tranmere's second goal against us last season, when Perch stretched to block the pass forward and didn't get enough on it to stop it. The officials deemed that Nevitt was therefore onside and allowed the goal to stand. I changed my opinion during the discussion on Stagsnet and eventually concluded in my report that the officials got it right on that occasion. https://stagsnet.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.p ... tt#p940495
Martin Shaw wrote:It was both: Oduroh stretched to try to block the shot, it deflected off him, the keeper parried, Swan knocked in the rebound.
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