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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Martin Shaw » Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:02 pm

Stoney wrote:I'm probably in a minority but I think the best chance of us scoring plenty would be a front 2 of Johnson and Swan.

Seems a bit harsh but I think Oates has been off it since his return and would be better used as an impact sub for a while.

Oates has 3 goals in 9 games since returning from injury. That is in line with his career stats I think.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby MOTG » Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:08 pm

Hartlepool also interested in signing Danny Johnson aswell
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:15 pm

MOTG wrote:Hartlepool also interested in signing Danny Johnson aswell



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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:50 pm

Martin Shaw wrote:
Stoney wrote:I'm probably in a minority but I think the best chance of us scoring plenty would be a front 2 of Johnson and Swan.

Seems a bit harsh but I think Oates has been off it since his return and would be better used as an impact sub for a while.

Oates has 3 goals in 9 games since returning from injury. That is in line with his career stats I think.


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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Fitzy499 » Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:13 pm

Can’t see it happening, as I think Johnson will be gone by the weekend, but what about a partnership of Oates and Johnson
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby cassellswasmagic » Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:30 pm

Fitzy499 wrote:Can’t see it happening, as I think Johnson will be gone by the weekend, but what about a partnership of Oates and Johnson

It used to be didn’t it.
I like Swan, but against some bullying defenders he tends to go missing imo. Better as an impact sub in some games.
I’d also say Oates and Johnson…if only Oates would look up and pass every now and then. Trouble is he’s too quick for most to keep up :lol:
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby victor A block » Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:36 pm

I agree. Swan is better coming on. Not strong enough against the big centre backs.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby oldweststander » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:46 am

A little disappointed with Oates, he misses too many good chances, not an out and out striker in my book.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby bobbystagsfan » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:48 am

oldweststander wrote:A little disappointed with Oates, he misses too many good chances, not an out and out striker in my book.



I think he is an out and out striker, but just inconsistent with chances like a lot of players at this level.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby AshoverStag » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:53 am

You have to put it in perspective. Oates was a player who was none league when we bought him.

He had a good patch with us Nov/Jan last season. Due to injuries and maybe low confidence he has not been the same player since.

I can remember seeing him dribbling from the kick off, running forward and nearly scoring. Went out for our throw

Now he seems to not have a touch, can’t pass, and not sharpe in front of goal

He does still have the “ball sticks like glue” when he’s running threw with ball at feet though

Not sure if poacher DJ is the answer too or Swan who is knocked off ball easy

I’m guessing we need a main striker who can pass, control the ball , has speed and strength and is 15 + goal a season man

Then use Oates and swan as back up or around him.

But if we seriously have a chance at getting a player like that, I don’t know

I dnt think we have the wingers or style to give DJ the poaching type service he needs. Can’t say in the right style or team he can’t score goals. Walsall tells you otherwise……FACT

Add to that his top scorer and proven goal scorer in league level football over other seasons etc

Hope I’m wrong and if DJ stays, NC finds a style, and formation that gets him scoring
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby five to three » Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:41 pm

We need to defend as a unit and attack according to the strengths of the player's we've got.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby tillydog123 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:57 pm

Said all along that Oates is a good player but not a prolific striker
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Captain Cunno » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:41 pm

Hes misses the chances cos he's knackered from doing all Boatengs running.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Young021 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 7:19 pm

Captain Cunno wrote:Hes misses the chances cos he's knackered from doing all Boatengs running.


What was the excuse last season,only 1 more league goal than bowery last season. He’s never been a prolific forward
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Suttonian » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:14 pm

Young021 wrote:
Captain Cunno wrote:Hes misses the chances cos he's knackered from doing all Boatengs running.


What was the excuse last season,only 1 more league goal than bowery last season. He’s never been a prolific forward


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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:36 pm

AshoverStag wrote:You have to put it in perspective. Oates was a player who was none league when we bought him.


Rhys Oates was an academy player at Barnsley. He had more League 2 experience with Hartlepool United and Morecambe than National League experience with Hartlepool and Gateshead. He had 62(46) EFL apps and had scored 11 goals before joining the Stags. He had 54(25) league apps and 23 goals in the National League. He's also not always been played as the main striker.

He was at Barnsley at the same time as Danny Rose, George Maris, Paul Digby, Jacob Mellis, Kane Hemmings, Bobby Hassell, Liam Lawrence and Stephen Dawson,

2014-2015 Barnsley (League 1) 0(9) league apps
2015-2016 Hartlepool United (League 2) 21(17) league apps and 2 goals
2016-2017 Hartlepool United (League 2) 17(8) league apps and 3 goals
Gateshead (National League) 2(4) league apps and 1 goal
2017-2018 Hartlepool United (National League) 25(11) league apps and 7 goals
2018-2019 Morecambe (League 2) 22(9) league apps and 6 goals
2019-2020 Morecambe (League 2) 2(3) league apps
2020-2021 Hartlepool United (National League) 27(10) league apps and 15 goals
2021-2022 Mansfield Town (League 2) 34(4) league apps and 9 goals
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby AshoverStag » Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:30 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
AshoverStag wrote:You have to put it in perspective. Oates was a player who was none league when we bought him.


Rhys Oates was an academy player at Barnsley. He had more League 2 experience with Hartlepool United and Morecambe than National League experience with Hartlepool and Gateshead. He had 62(46) EFL apps and had scored 11 goals before joining the Stags. He had 54(25) league apps and 23 goals in the National League. He's also not always been played as the main striker.

He was at Barnsley at the same time as Danny Rose, George Maris, Paul Digby, Jacob Mellis, Kane Hemmings, Bobby Hassell, Liam Lawrence and Stephen Dawson,

2014-2015 Barnsley (League 1) 0(9) league apps
2015-2016 Hartlepool United (League 2) 21(17) league apps and 2 goals
2016-2017 Hartlepool United (League 2) 17(8) league apps and 3 goals

Ha ha. You know your stuff Darren. I stand corrected, on the Oates League football history but not on the rest of my post. Which is my opinion and I still stand by
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2017-2018 Hartlepool United (National League) 25(11) league apps and 7 goals
2018-2019 Morecambe (League 2) 22(9) league apps and 6 goals
2019-2020 Morecambe (League 2) 2(3) league apps
2021-2022 Hartlepool United (National League) 27(10) league apps and 15 goals
2022-2023 Mansfield Town (League 2) 34(4) league apps and 9 goals


Ha ha, You know your stuff Darren.

I stand corrected

But not on the rest of my above post, which is my current opinion. :lol:
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby part time pete » Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:32 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
AshoverStag wrote:You have to put it in perspective. Oates was a player who was none league when we bought him.


Rhys Oates was an academy player at Barnsley. He had more League 2 experience with Hartlepool United and Morecambe than National League experience with Hartlepool and Gateshead. He had 62(46) EFL apps and had scored 11 goals before joining the Stags. He had 54(25) league apps and 23 goals in the National League. He's also not always been played as the main striker.

He was at Barnsley at the same time as Danny Rose, George Maris, Paul Digby, Jacob Mellis, Kane Hemmings, Bobby Hassell, Liam Lawrence and Stephen Dawson,

2014-2015 Barnsley (League 1) 0(9) league apps
2015-2016 Hartlepool United (League 2) 21(17) league apps and 2 goals
2016-2017 Hartlepool United (League 2) 17(8) league apps and 3 goals
Gateshead (National League) 2(4) league apps and 1 goal
2017-2018 Hartlepool United (National League) 25(11) league apps and 7 goals
2018-2019 Morecambe (League 2) 22(9) league apps and 6 goals
2019-2020 Morecambe (League 2) 2(3) league apps
2021-2022 Hartlepool United (National League) 27(10) league apps and 15 goals
2022-2023 Mansfield Town (League 2) 34(4) league apps and 9 goals


Thought Oates played for us in 2021 and don’t think Oates played for Hartlepool in 2022. ;)
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby AshoverStag » Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:32 pm

part time pete wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
AshoverStag wrote:You have to put it in perspective. Oates was a player who was none league when we bought him.


Rhys Oates was an academy player at Barnsley. He had more League 2 experience with Hartlepool United and Morecambe than National League experience with Hartlepool and Gateshead. He had 62(46) EFL apps and had scored 11 goals before joining the Stags. He had 54(25) league apps and 23 goals in the National League. He's also not always been played as the main striker.

He was at Barnsley at the same time as Danny Rose, George Maris, Paul Digby, Jacob Mellis, Kane Hemmings, Bobby Hassell, Liam Lawrence and Stephen Dawson,

2014-2015 Barnsley (League 1) 0(9) league apps
2015-2016 Hartlepool United (League 2) 21(17) league apps and 2 goals
2016-2017 Hartlepool United (League 2) 17(8) league apps and 3 goals
Gateshead (National League) 2(4) league apps and 1 goal
2017-2018 Hartlepool United (National League) 25(11) league apps and 7 goals
2018-2019 Morecambe (League 2) 22(9) league apps and 6 goals
2019-2020 Morecambe (League 2) 2(3) league apps
2021-2022 Hartlepool United (National League) 27(10) league apps and 15 goals
2022-2023 Mansfield Town (League 2) 34(4) league apps and 9 goals


Thought Oates played for us in 2021 and don’t think Oates played for Hartlepool in 2022. ;)


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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:08 pm

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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Dan » Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:21 pm



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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Marky Mark » Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:24 pm

If he only wants to go somewhere for 6 months but we want a fee for him, then it follows that the only teams who will take him are those that are willing to stump up a fee to sign a player for 6 months and I can't see many teams wanting to do that. Feels more and more like he'll be with us for the rest of the season, whether we play him or not.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby Jamie » Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:32 pm

Marky Mark wrote:If he only wants to go somewhere for 6 months but we want a fee for him, then it follows that the only teams who will take him are those that are willing to stump up a fee to sign a player for 6 months and I can't see many teams wanting to do that. Feels more and more like he'll be with us for the rest of the season, whether we play him or not.


If we can't agree a fee with anyone, we could still loan him out again to save wages. Unless Clough wants to use him, keeping him in the stands on full pay makes no sense at all.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby PEAR CIDER » Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:35 pm

if he is here, he'll be on the pitch or in the squad.
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Re: Danny Johnson

Postby AshoverStag » Fri Jan 20, 2023 2:43 pm

If NC plays him tomorrow we will find out at 2pm either way

May still stay if not and play vs Donny.

If he’s not played by 28th id suggest he’s going elsewhere. Still plenty of time to seal a deal by Monday 31st
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