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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:57 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:Walker is injured and out for at least another month.


He's guaranteed to sign for the Stags :lol:

The description by Danny Cowley of Tyler Walker as a bit of a ghost who appeared from nowhere to score is pretty accurate. There were many games for the Stags where Tyler Walker did very little but then popped up and scored a goal. The Portsmouth article posted by Dan is a good read."

"Walker was supposed to drive an assault on the play-offs during the second half of the League One season, his £7,000-a-week salary reflected that importance. Instead, he proved to be one of the most disappointing loan recruits in Pompey memory – to the point where the manager declined to use him. For Walker was so anonymous, his displays so inconsequential, that few can possibly, with great conviction, pinpoint his footballing deficiencies.

During the ex-Nottingham Forest man’s early days of a forgettable loan, Cowley branded him a ghost, in reference to a purported habit of appearing from nowhere to score. ‘Ghost’ sums Walker up quite nicely during 15 Blues outings in which he was barely visible, albeit admittedly failed to scare opposition defences. There was one goal, an angled finish from two yards against a Crewe goalkeeper already grounded after saving Sean Raggett’s initial shot in a March encounter. It was not the fact he wasted countless glorious opportunities in promising penalty area positions, that was never the case. He simply was never involved in anything of note, not even a booking. Certainly Walker’s body language reflected poorly, giving the impression he wasn’t interested. His was a lackadaisical on-pitch presence, portraying a figure lacking passion and a willingness to get involved."

Tyler Walker's going rate had obviosly increased from £5,000 per week to £7,000 per week.

Tyler was a good signing for us but his silly petulant sending off against Forest Green Rovers arguably cost us promotion. He was suspended for the Port Vale game and if he had been playing he probably would have scored the early penalty and the Stags might have gone on to win the game instead of losing to two Ricky Miller goals. Ricky Miller told me at Grantham earlier this season that he was really pumped up for that game as he wanted to prove a point to David Flitcroft who had hardly played him at the end of the previous season (4 sub appearances).
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby tillydog123 » Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:25 pm

Hi ghostly goals did help us fire up the league
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby Dave Wayne » Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:51 pm

Billy the fish wrote:
daddycool wrote:Tyler Walker made available at Coventry


Is it just me but i thought he was average at best in his time with us , he was younger granted and learning his trade but doesn’t seem to have kicked on .

22 goals in 44 league games, 26 in 50 in total.
Every club is looking for the elusive '20 goal' striker, and you think the last one we had was average at best ?
Did you start the xmas sherry early this year ?
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:49 pm

Dave Wayne wrote:
Billy the fish wrote:
daddycool wrote:Tyler Walker made available at Coventry


Is it just me but i thought he was average at best in his time with us , he was younger granted and learning his trade but doesn’t seem to have kicked on .

22 goals in 44 league games, 26 in 50 in total.
Every club is looking for the elusive '20 goal' striker, and you think the last one we had was average at best ?
Did you start the xmas sherry early this year ?



He also went to league one and continued scoring goals for Lincoln. Unless they've changed the definition of kicking on, I'd say he has. He also has 60 appearances in the champ, so he has obviously improved since his time here.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby yorkstag » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:55 pm

I think his progress has stalled - he may have 60 championship apps but has struggled for goals.
I thought he was excellent for us but needs to realise his potential
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:57 pm

yorkstag wrote:I think his progress has stalled - he may have 60 championship apps but has struggled for goals.
I thought he was excellent for us but needs to realise his potential



I think top end L1/Bottom half champ seems to be his ceiling. He could step it up another gear and go even further but I think a L1 team will go in for him. Don't think he would drop to L2 unless the wages were ridiculous/he really liked it here!
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby Curry 9 Brace 7 » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:16 pm

Maybe League 2 was his level ?
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:18 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
yorkstag wrote:I think his progress has stalled - he may have 60 championship apps but has struggled for goals.
I thought he was excellent for us but needs to realise his potential



I think top end L1/Bottom half champ seems to be his ceiling. He could step it up another gear and go even further but I think a L1 team will go in for him. Don't think he would drop to L2 unless the wages were ridiculous/he really liked it here!
I don't think he is NC type of player. Besides the priority is a central defender.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby Curry 9 Brace 7 » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:20 pm

He did often come across has coasting through games, not same sort of player as Oates who puts a shift in every game, same end product though, goals
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:32 pm

Curry 9 Brace 7 wrote:He did often come across has coasting through games, not same sort of player as Oates who puts a shift in every game, same end product though, goals


Walker’s end product was far superior to Oates’.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:37 pm

Curry 9 Brace 7 wrote:Maybe League 2 was his level ?



According to wiki he scored 14 in 29 which suggests he is better than League 2.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:37 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
yorkstag wrote:I think his progress has stalled - he may have 60 championship apps but has struggled for goals.
I thought he was excellent for us but needs to realise his potential



I think top end L1/Bottom half champ seems to be his ceiling. He could step it up another gear and go even further but I think a L1 team will go in for him. Don't think he would drop to L2 unless the wages were ridiculous/he really liked it here!
I don't think he is NC type of player. Besides the priority is a central defender.


I do feel we'll be in for another striker if/when Johnson goes.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby oldweststander » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:49 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
yorkstag wrote:I think his progress has stalled - he may have 60 championship apps but has struggled for goals.
I thought he was excellent for us but needs to realise his potential



I think top end L1/Bottom half champ seems to be his ceiling. He could step it up another gear and go even further but I think a L1 team will go in for him. Don't think he would drop to L2 unless the wages were ridiculous/he really liked it here!
I don't think he is NC type of player. Besides the priority is a central defender.


I do feel we'll be in for another striker if/when Johnson goes.


What makes you say that?

Johnson has not played for us this season, why should a permanent move away make the slightest difference?
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:56 pm

oldweststander wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
yorkstag wrote:I think his progress has stalled - he may have 60 championship apps but has struggled for goals.
I thought he was excellent for us but needs to realise his potential



I think top end L1/Bottom half champ seems to be his ceiling. He could step it up another gear and go even further but I think a L1 team will go in for him. Don't think he would drop to L2 unless the wages were ridiculous/he really liked it here!
I don't think he is NC type of player. Besides the priority is a central defender.


I do feel we'll be in for another striker if/when Johnson goes.


What makes you say that?

Johnson has not played for us this season, why should a permanent move away make the slightest difference?

Just my opinion. I think we will see a new striker, full back/wing back and a centre half.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby oldweststander » Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:28 pm

I do hope you are right.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby Captain Cunno » Sun Dec 25, 2022 7:45 am

Some short memories on here and some laughable comments....
Anyone who wouldn't sign Tyler Walker if he wanted to come needs to take up another sport.

He'll end up at a league 1 club but isn't good enough for our perennial league 2 club.....

Stagsnettery at its best...
These are my opinions , if you don't like them I have others...
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:21 am

Captain Cunno wrote:Some short memories on here and some laughable comments....
Anyone who wouldn't sign Tyler Walker if he wanted to come needs to take up another sport.

He'll end up at a league 1 club but isn't good enough for our perennial league 2 club.....

Stagsnettery at its best...


The comments about his time here by some are a little strange, but I’d be wary about splashing the cash on him. If the deal was good for us financially then I would take it, but I wouldn’t chuck our budget on a player who has been injured for most of the season and when last seen was poor for six months beforehand.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby five to three » Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:46 am

He won't come down to our level so that tells you enough about how good he is and was.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby scotsstag » Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:41 pm

five to three wrote:He won't come down to our level so that tells you enough about how good he is and was.

In order for him to look good our level is his level..
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:28 pm

scotsstag wrote:
five to three wrote:He won't come down to our level so that tells you enough about how good he is and was.

In order for him to look good our level is his level..



He looked alright in League one with Lincoln
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby scotsstag » Sun Dec 25, 2022 4:04 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
scotsstag wrote:
five to three wrote:He won't come down to our level so that tells you enough about how good he is and was.

In order for him to look good our level is his level..



He looked alright in League one with Lincoln

A good while ago and done nothing since.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sun Dec 25, 2022 4:08 pm

scotsstag wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
scotsstag wrote:
five to three wrote:He won't come down to our level so that tells you enough about how good he is and was.

In order for him to look good our level is his level..



He looked alright in League one with Lincoln

A good while ago and done nothing since.



Aye, but I think there's more chance he'll end up in L1 rather than L2
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby scotsstag » Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:35 pm

bobbystagsfan wrote:
scotsstag wrote:
bobbystagsfan wrote:
scotsstag wrote:
five to three wrote:He won't come down to our level so that tells you enough about how good he is and was.

In order for him to look good our level is his level..



He looked alright in League one with Lincoln

A good while ago and done nothing since.



Aye, but I think there's more chance he'll end up in L1 rather than L2

You're more than likely right Bobby.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby stagmanrob » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:36 pm

He's only worth what teams are prepared to pay him.

If the offers aren't there, then he and his agent will have to lower their expectations accordingly.

Either that or he will likely sit on his remaining contract -which will probably be a decent sum of money to play reserve football I would assume.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2022-2023

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:43 pm

Mark Robins expects him to stay because he doesn’t expect managers to want to sign a player who is not fit. I’ll let someone else fill in the rest :lol:
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