oldweststander wrote:Most players contracts are up at season's end.
Stech
Jamie Clarke
Macca
Ollie Clarke
Maris
Quinn
Rawson
Ward
Perch
Knowles
Charsley
Burke
Bowery
Then all the loans return to their clubs.
I may have missed some?
oldweststander wrote:Most players contracts are up at season's end.
Stech
Jamie Clarke
Macca
Ollie Clarke
Maris
Quinn
Rawson
Ward
Perch
Knowles
Charsley
Burke
Bowery
Then all the loans return to their clubs.
I may have missed some?
Rob wrote:oldweststander wrote:Most players contracts are up at season's end.
Stech
Jamie Clarke
Macca
Ollie Clarke
Maris
Quinn
Rawson
Ward
Perch
Knowles
Charsley
Burke
Bowery
Then all the loans return to their clubs.
I may have missed some?
Macca and Maris are easily League 1 quality, I'd give them a 2 year deal right now. I'd also offer a deal to Bowery and Faz. Quinn is up to him really and I think Charsley is one I'd keep if we remain in League 2.
gazza1988 wrote:I honestly can't see him keeping Bowery. He's in good form right now, scoring 3 and assisting 2 in his last 5 games. But his previous 15 games he got one goal and 2 assists. His total stats are 26 games 4 goals and 4 assists (all stats taken from transfermarkt website)
We've already got Oates, Hawkins, Akins and Johnson under contract for next season. We have players who work harder (oates) more versatile (Akins) aerial threat(Hawkins) more of a goal threat both goals and assists(Johnson - 20 games 7 goals and 4 assists (7 of those games minutes wise total 90 minutes across them), Oates 28 games 7 goals and 3 assists, Hawkins - 26 games 6 goals and 1 assist most as a CB (transfermarkt let you filter as cf - 10 games 4 goals and 1 assist) for Akins ill use his data at Burton - 23 games 3 goals and 3 assists {4 games and 0 goals and assists as a cf))
Hes been great in the last 5 games he's played (ignore FGR) scoring 3 and assisting 2, the previous 20 is 1 goal and 2 assists. Is performing for December-January each season enough? He might surprise us and the signing of Akins and the need for a new contract for himself could see some good performances for the rest of the season. Unfortunately for him he's 5th choice up front for me, 3rd choice on the left (Quinn and Akins are ahead of him) . He's surplus to requirements right now. We sign a CB or 2 (or Nartey gets on the pitch and stays relatively injury free) then Hawkins, Oates, Johnson and Akins are all better players.
I know I'll need the tin hat on for daring to suggest that. Yes I see what he brings to the side but we have players capable of better in my opinion. It's indicative of how good a strike force Clough has put together. We just need a defence to match and we will be well away.
Can see some of the fringe players leaving. Ward, Charsley, James Clarke, Stech. We've way too many midfielders so could see Ollie Clarke leave too.
There's still plenty of football to go yet though. Another week or so of the transfer window left, anything can happen. Plus there's still 21 games to go. Plenty of time for players to gain form and lose form or even pick up injuries (although I feel we've had more than our fair share of those!)
yellowstagsfan wrote:No retained goalkeeper on list. Do we go for another loan or do we sign an experienced keeper ?
Cockney Stag wrote:yellowstagsfan wrote:No retained goalkeeper on list. Do we go for another loan or do we sign an experienced keeper ?
Not sure we can answer that until we know what division we will be playing in.
gazza1988 wrote:I honestly can't see him keeping Bowery. He's in good form right now, scoring 3 and assisting 2 in his last 5 games. But his previous 15 games he got one goal and 2 assists. His total stats are 26 games 4 goals and 4 assists (all stats taken from transfermarkt website)
We've already got Oates, Hawkins, Akins and Johnson under contract for next season. We have players who work harder (oates) more versatile (Akins) aerial threat(Hawkins) more of a goal threat both goals and assists(Johnson - 20 games 7 goals and 4 assists (7 of those games minutes wise total 90 minutes across them), Oates 28 games 7 goals and 3 assists, Hawkins - 26 games 6 goals and 1 assist most as a CB (transfermarkt let you filter as cf - 10 games 4 goals and 1 assist) for Akins ill use his data at Burton - 23 games 3 goals and 3 assists {4 games and 0 goals and assists as a cf))
Hes been great in the last 5 games he's played (ignore FGR) scoring 3 and assisting 2, the previous 20 is 1 goal and 2 assists. Is performing for December-January each season enough? He might surprise us and the signing of Akins and the need for a new contract for himself could see some good performances for the rest of the season. Unfortunately for him he's 5th choice up front for me, 3rd choice on the left (Quinn and Akins are ahead of him) . He's surplus to requirements right now. We sign a CB or 2 (or Nartey gets on the pitch and stays relatively injury free) then Hawkins, Oates, Johnson and Akins are all better players.
I know I'll need the tin hat on for daring to suggest that. Yes I see what he brings to the side but we have players capable of better in my opinion. It's indicative of how good a strike force Clough has put together. We just need a defence to match and we will be well away.
Can see some of the fringe players leaving. Ward, Charsley, James Clarke, Stech. We've way too many midfielders so could see Ollie Clarke leave too.
There's still plenty of football to go yet though. Another week or so of the transfer window left, anything can happen. Plus there's still 21 games to go. Plenty of time for players to gain form and lose form or even pick up injuries (although I feel we've had more than our fair share of those!)
ParisStag wrote:Cockney Stag wrote:yellowstagsfan wrote:No retained goalkeeper on list. Do we go for another loan or do we sign an experienced keeper ?
Not sure we can answer that until we know what division we will be playing in.
If we go up, we've got to be in with a shout of getting Bish again on loan.
gazza1988 wrote:Yeah I know what extra he brings to the team. However I think Akins will offer that and more. So where is bowery in this?
Yes I'm judging his as a forward, that's the space he's occupied the most. He's in red hot form in the last 5 games but still doesn't hide the fact that as a forward his direct goal and assist record is not the greatest.
gazza1988 wrote:Yeah I know what extra he brings to the team. However I think Akins will offer that and more. So where is bowery in this?
Yes I'm judging his as a forward, that's the space he's occupied the most. He's in red hot form in the last 5 games but still doesn't hide the fact that as a forward his direct goal and assist record is not the greatest.
gazza1988 wrote:Another thought that I didn't put was, Nathan Caine and Jimmy knowles would have to be evaluated too. If we keep them on we could become top heavy and limited their chances. I've no issue with Bowery being a backup utility player but Clough values players who can do a job and utility but also values value for money. Depending on Bowery's wages he may be earning too much to be that player. I have zero idea what he's paid so it could already be great value. I've no idea.
gazza1988 wrote:That's why I said evaluate.
Of course they aren't anywhere near Bowery. I wasn't I tendind to imply they were. However if we want them to progress to be our first team players we've got to give them a chance. Assuming Bowery's contract is renewed that's Hawkins, Oates, Johnson, Akins and Bowery as first team forwards. Young lads would never get a game. Maybe a spot on the bench for the efl trophy. Clough likes to have youngsters on the periphery of the first team, playing 2 up front ments they would be 6th and 7th choice. Doesn't lend well to developing players.
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