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Port Vale Tuesday night preview

Postby Sweden Stag » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:15 pm

Last season, it was all about routs big style. And in the campaign before that, it was all about goals in added time for both sides. The tale this time is about games against our next opponent, Port Vale, at headquarters on Tuesday night.

Both games last campaign ended up in routs. The first one was in our first home game this year, when Vale surrendered to a heavy 4-0 scoreline, which also was our first home victory last season. This result also meant the end of the John Askey management at Port Vale, as he was axed soon after the rout at One Call. One month later, ex-Stag (as a player) Darrell Clarke took over the management at Vale Park after being released by Walsall (not sacked by the Saddlers). Clarke bossed Port Vale when the Stags ended last season in style by winning 3-0 at Vale Park.

But it took some time before Darrell Clarke made his mark at the Valiants. In mid-March, after a 1-0 home defeat against Bolton Wanderers, Port Vale were just five points above the drop zone. After that defeat, Port Vale showed at least play-off and promotion form by winning eight games out of nine, among them six in a row before losing at Grimsby last Saturday. After the crash at One Call earlier this year, Vale managed only two wins (against the relegated sides Grimsby and Southend at headquarters) out of thirteen before their long winning run started against playoff-chasing Newport County after the defeat against Bolton.

The 2019-20 corresponding fixures had goals in added time written all over them. While Port Vale equalized in added time at Vale Park in September 2019, the Stags did the same on Boxing Day 2019 after being two goals down at one stage in the second half. Incidentally, both games ended 2-2 that season.

Some earlier history about Stags v Port Vale fixtures over the years:

Due to the midway geographical position of the Stags and Port Vale, the sides played each other in both sections of the old third division up to the 1957-58 campaign. To prove the point in the stats shown below, the teams first met in the old div 3 (N) in the 1936-37 season.Two seasons later, they played each other in the southern section which they also did in the first full league season after the 2nd World War and in that season, Port Vale notched their biggest of total nine wins at Mansfield to a 3-0 scoreline on September 14, 1946. And in the 1952-53 and 1953-54 seasons respectively, the sides faced each other again, but in the northern section. More recently, the teams were promoted together from the old fourth division in 1985-86 and a Stags 2-1 home win just before Christmas 1985 was a start of a winning streak with eight wins out of nine putting the Stags firmly on the promotion trail, the Stags finishing third and Vale fourth in the last season before the introdution of the current play-off system. Both teams have also featured players who when playing in Sweden played for the same Swedish club, IFK Munkfors, but not at the same time. Martin Foyle (later Aldershot, Oxford, Port Vale and also later Port Vale manager) in 1982, Ian Juryeff (who scored four times for Stags in a 7-1-mauling of Halifax in 1984 featured in the vintage Stags section) in 1983. The first meeting between the teams produced a 7-1 win, the Stags biggest one of all time between the sides, on March 27, 1937, to avenge a 5-1 defeat at Port Vale (but not at Vale Park) on November 21, 1936.

And in the 1953-54 season, the Stags were one of only FOUR teams to score at Port Vale when they drew 1-1 on April 5, 1954. The first away win at Port Vale was recorded as a 4-1 on Easter Saturday 1977, which was the first out of eight home and away victories in the memorable promotion run in at the end of the 1976-77 championship season. And before November 2017, the Stags’ latest win at Port Vale happened on Easter Monday, 1989, at the end of that season in which the Stags beat all the teams who were promoted to the old 2nd division, the others being Wolves on April 1, 1989, to a tune of 3-1 at Field Mill, and Sheffield United 2-1 away on April 25, incidentally to the same scoreline as at Port Vale! Not only the 7-1 stuffing way back in 1937 explain the good Stags home goal difference against Vale.

Other maulings at home before this season include the 5-0 with all goals in the first half on January 24, 1981, and the Kevin Kent show in the 4-0 win just before Christmas 1987. No game between the sides at Mansfield has so far finished as a goal-less draw.

Port Vale have in the past been FA Cup giant-killers. Semi-finalists in 1953-54, beating Tottenham 2-1 at home in front of many Swedish TV viewers in the fourth round on January 30, 1988, to name just a few. But Vale themselves were also victims of one. In 2007-08, Chasetown became the lowest-ever ranked club to reach the third round, by beating Port Vale 1-0 in the final minute of normal time during a fixture in which Port Vale missed two penalties. One of the Chasetown players, Kyle Perry, was later to be one of quite a few players appearing for both sides (31 games, no goals for Port Vale and 30 games, 9 goals for the Stags). Recently, Perry played for then National League North side Worcester City, themselves FA Cup giant killers by beating Liverpool 2-1 in 1959 and more recently, Coventry away in the first round a few seasons ago. Latest known club address for Perry is Stafford Rangers. And this season, Port Vale tasted their own giant-killers medicine by being dumped out by Conf National newcomers King’s Lynn at headquarters in the first round. A season which saw a low-ranked team, Marine (just like Chasetown in 2007-08) reach the third round, earning them a bumper home draw against Tottenham of all sides,.

And following the Tottenham FA Cup KO, Vale had their best FL spell in post-war history. Between 1989-90 and 1999-2000, Vale played nine seasons at current Championship level, managed for almost fifteen years by John Rudge. He oversaw the Vale promotion from Division Four together with the Stags under Ian Greaves in 1985-86 and both promotions to the current Championship as well as the 1987-88 FA Cup run. When Rudge left, Billy Dearden was Vale boss for a few days in January 1999.

Three years ago, Vale not for the first time endured problems following relegation from the third tier. On three previous occasions following relegation, in 1964-65, 1977-78 and 2007-08 respectively, Vale have finished well inside the bottom half, and their points tally of 48 in 2008-09 had in a few other League Two seasons, including the Stags’ FL comeback one a few years ago, been enough for dropping out of the FL altogether (Barnet on 51 in 2013 and Bristol Rovers on 50 in 2014 to name but two). Following all the above-mentioned relegations, it took Vale five seasons to return to the third tier. Vale, who in fact were one of the founder members of the FL second level as far back as in 1891-92, resigned from the second level in 1907 and returned to the FL second level by taking over the fixtures from Leeds City a century ago during the 1919-20 second level campaign.

Quite a few players have appeared for both sides. One of the most recent ones is Dimitar Evtimov, who scored a Stagsnet 10 rating in a memorable game at AFC Wimbledon six years ago. He played for Vale against Swindon on an emergency loan a few weeks before the clash at Vale Park in the 2017-18 campaign. Also the 2013 Spireite killer, Calvin Andrew, has played for Vale. Also Tyler Walker played for Vale recently, a handful of games but was unable to prevent relegation in 2016-17.

Hopes were high early on this season after the Stags had won their first two games, and were close to winning a third straight one when, not for the first this season and not overall in preview history, the Stags got wrong refereeing decisions against them. A dive by a Colchester player in added time resulted in a disputed penalty, converted. Since then, the Stags are winless in ten league games, and that not only due to some officials. Also due to several injuries to key players and a couple of suspensions, and just two poor away games, at Walsall in September and most recently at Northampton last Saturday,

Our current position is way below what was to be expected so far. Meanwhile, Port Vale are sitting in third position after having won five out of their last six games, but the other one was an extraordinary 4-3 defeat at promoted Sutton in Vale’s latest away fixture.

Played for both sides: Adnan Ahmed, Calvin Andrew, Colin Askey, Will Atkinson, Thomas Baxter, Malvind Benning, Gary Brazil, Louis Briscoe, Darrell Clarke, Lee Collins, Wayne Corden, Colin Daniel, Craig Davies, Syd Dickinson, Dimitar Evtimov, Gary Ford, Exodus Geohaghon, Kenneth Griffiths, Ray Harford, Michael Hopkinson, Kyle Howkins, Arthur Jepson, Henry Jones, Kevin Kent, Adrian Littlejohn, Neil Mackenzie, John McCombe, Johnny Miller, Ricky Miller, Ernie Moss, Harry Oscroft, Krystian Pearce, Kyle Perry, George Pilkington, Kevin Pilkington, Nicky Platnauer, Gary Pollard, Andy Porter, George Poyser, Jazz Rattray, Gary Roberts, John Rowland, Jake Speight, Freddie Steele, Aidan Stone, Richard Sutton, Allen Tankard, Robert Taylor, Arjan van Heusden, Tyler Walker.

Managed both sides: Freddie Steele (managed the Stags when they reached the 5th round in the FA Cup 1950-51 and Port Vale when they reached the semi-finals three seasons later, then another spell at Port Vale in the early 60’s), Billy Dearden (for four days following the resignation of long-serving John Rudge in January 1999).
Billy Frith has also managed Port Vale, and did so in the 1945-46 season in which no FL games were played.

The ref will be Will Finnie. We’ve had him three times before, twice at home and once away. The away game was the 1-1 draw at Tranmere last season, while the Stags have won both home fixtures reffed by Finnie, a 3-0 rout of Bradford City in January 2020, and a 2-1 victory against Salford only a few days after last season’s 4-0 mauling of Port Vale.

Stats file:

Home stats: P 26, W 12, D 5, L 9, GF 44, GA 29
Away stats: P 26, W 5, D 9, L 12, GF 32, GA 47

Season Home Date Away Date

1936-37 7-1 1937-03-27 1-5 1936-11-21 Div 3 (N)
1938-39 2-0 1939-01-28 0-3 1938-09-24 Div 3 (S)
1946-47 0-3 1946-09-14 1-4 1947-01-18 Div 3 (S)
1952-53 1-0 1953-03-28 1-1 1952-11-08 Div 3 (N)
1953-54 1-2 1953-08-19 1-1 1954-04-05 Div 3 (N)
1959-60 6-3 1960-04-25 1-4 1959-10-12 Div 3 (old)
1963-64 1-1 1963-09-09 0-1 1963-08-26 Div 3 (old)
1964-65 2-2 1964-09-28 2-2 1964-10-05 Div 3 (old)
1970-71 2-0 1970-09-28 0-2 1971-01-09 Div 3 (old)
1971-72 0-1 1971-11-13 0-1 1972-03-04 Div 3 (old)
1975-76 3-1 1976-01-03 2-2 1976-04-20 Div 3 (old)
1976-77 2-1 1976-12-28 4-1 1977-04-09 Div 3 (old)
1980-81 5-0 1981-01-24 0-0 1980-08-30 Div 4 (old)
1981-82 1-3 1982-02-06 0-0 1981-09-12 Div 4 (old)
1982-83 0-2 1982-09-11 1-4 1983-01-29 Div 4 (old)
1984-85 1-1 1985-03-13 1-0 1984-08-25 Div 4 (old)
1985-86 2-1 1985-12-22 0-0 1985-08-24 Div 4 (old)
1986-87 0-1 1987-01-01 2-3 1987-04-18 Div 3 (old)
1987-88 4-0 1987-12-20 1-1 1988-05-07 Div 3 (old)
1988-89 0-1 1988-12-26 2-1 1989-03-27 Div 3 (old)
1992-93 0-1 1993-04-10 0-3 1993-04-27 Div 2
2002-03 0-1 2003-04-05 2-4 2002-11-30 Div 2
2017-18 1-1 2018-04-21 4-0 2017-11-21 League Two
2018-19 1-0 2018-11-17 1-2 2019-03-09 League Two
2019-20 2-2 2019-12-26 2-2 2019-09-21 League Two
2020-21 4-0 2021-01-02 3-0 2021-05-08 League Two

FA Cup:

1985-86 1-1 1985-11-16 1st round at Field Mill
1985-86 0-1 1985-11-18 1st round replay at Vale Park

EFL Trophy

2016-17 1-0 2016-10-04 Group stage at Vale Park
2019-20 2-2 2019-12-03 KO stage at Vale Park (Port Vale through on penalties)

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