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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:06 pm

As with James Clerke, I think we need to be careful not to put too much pressure on Ward. He played very well when he came on. But at that stage Oldham had pretty much surrendered possession and were content to defend their point, so he could get on the ball easily and try and dictate play. He’s seen this start though and it will be interesting to see how he does from the beginning of a game.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:16 pm

Current Table

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.12...2...4...6....10....0.83

Required for 50 Points

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.34..13...1..20...40...1.18
.34..12...4..18...40...1.18
.34..11...7..16...40...1.18
.34..10..10.14...40...1.18
.34...9...13.12...40...1.18
.34...8...16.10...40...1.18
.34...7...19..8....40...1.18

Stags current PPG 0.83 over a season would be a potential relegation total of 38 points.

In 2008 Stags were relegated with 42 points.

Southend were relegated last season with 45 points.

After 12 games

2019/20 13 points Dempster
2020/21 10 points (Coughlan was sacked after 9 games, with 5 points)
2021/22 10 points Clough (Clough's last 9 games is 3 points :shock: )

The last Stags manager to go 10 league games without a win was Paul Cox 2013/14 season (13 games).

I hope Nigel Clough can turnaround Stags results, but with EFL status at risk it needs to be sooner rather than later.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby chip63 » Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:00 pm

Wish I hadn't of read that :oops:
I had to check only 3points in 9 games and after 4 tries I couldn't find more.

I've got Bolton at the back of my mind to keep me hopeful.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Spiritater » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:13 am

KirkbyStag2 wrote:Current Table

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.12...2...4...6....10....0.83

Required for 50 Points

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.34..13...1..20...40...1.18
.34..12...4..18...40...1.18
.34..11...7..16...40...1.18
.34..10..10.14...40...1.18
.34...9...13.12...40...1.18
.34...8...16.10...40...1.18
.34...7...19..8....40...1.18

Stags current PPG 0.83 over a season would be a potential relegation total of 38 points.

In 2008 Stags were relegated with 42 points.

Southend were relegated last season with 45 points.

After 12 games

2019/20 13 points Dempster
2020/21 10 points (Coughlan was sacked after 9 games, with 5 points)
2021/22 10 points Clough (Clough's last 9 games is 3 points :shock: )

The last Stags manager to go 10 league games without a win was Paul Cox 2013/14 season (13 games).

I hope Nigel Clough can turnaround Stags results, but with EFL status at risk it needs to be sooner rather than later.

Sobering and worrying stats.
We will not be doing a Bloton. We can't even score a goal atm... even against sides below us.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby adamstag » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:38 am

what gets me, is that despite different players and managers we’ve gone on one of runs similar to this pretty much every season since we came back up.

From what run under cox the 1st season, the run under flitcroft from february when it was practically
impossible not to get promoted but somehow managed it, the start last season, this run now.

It’s crazy
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Spiritater » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:44 am

And very depressing.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby adamstag » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:50 am

Spiritater wrote:And very depressing.


I do get rather bemused from city and united fans in manchester that i willingly traipse across the country every other week to watch us

The best way of explaining mansfield to them is that it’s like being a kid and having all the instruments of the orchestra to choose from and sadly i picked out the triangle :lol:
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby georgefostersbeard » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:12 am

And one with a crack in it so it only produces a beautiful sound one in every fifteen hits :lol:
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby chip63 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:19 am

adamstag wrote:
Spiritater wrote:And very depressing.


I do get rather bemused from city and united fans in manchester that i willingly traipse across the country every other week to watch us

The best way of explaining mansfield to them is that it’s like being a kid and having all the instruments of the orchestra to choose from and sadly i picked out the triangle :lol:


And found the Striker was missing.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Curry 9 Brace 7 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:45 pm

:D Spiritater, you sound really fed up, i think you should sit with the Vale fans tomorrow night and watch a few goals go in to cheer you up, get yer mal benning shirt on
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Spiritater » Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:52 pm

Curry 9 Brace 7 wrote::D Spiritater, you sound really fed up, i think you should sit with the Vale fans tomorrow night and watch a few goals go in to cheer you up, get yer mal benning shirt on

I am bud. These last three seasons seem like a recurring nightmare. We've struggled to rid ourselves of this malaise. Every season we dangle over the pit makes it a forgone conclusion that eventually we'll lose our grip and be up to our neck in it.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby stagsfan6493 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:00 pm

Spiritater wrote:
Curry 9 Brace 7 wrote::D Spiritater, you sound really fed up, i think you should sit with the Vale fans tomorrow night and watch a few goals go in to cheer you up, get yer mal benning shirt on

I am bud. These last three seasons seem like a recurring nightmare. We've struggled to rid ourselves of this malaise. Every season we dangle over the pit makes it a forgone conclusion that eventually we'll lose our grip and be up to our neck in it.

Makes you wonder what Flitcroft and Evans were doing differently with a similar budget.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby gazza1988 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:05 pm

stagsfan6493 wrote:
Spiritater wrote:
Curry 9 Brace 7 wrote::D Spiritater, you sound really fed up, i think you should sit with the Vale fans tomorrow night and watch a few goals go in to cheer you up, get yer mal benning shirt on

I am bud. These last three seasons seem like a recurring nightmare. We've struggled to rid ourselves of this malaise. Every season we dangle over the pit makes it a forgone conclusion that eventually we'll lose our grip and be up to our neck in it.

Makes you wonder what Flitcroft and Evans were doing differently with a similar budget.


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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby stagsfan6493 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:14 pm

gazza1988 wrote:
stagsfan6493 wrote:
Spiritater wrote:
Curry 9 Brace 7 wrote::D Spiritater, you sound really fed up, i think you should sit with the Vale fans tomorrow night and watch a few goals go in to cheer you up, get yer mal benning shirt on

I am bud. These last three seasons seem like a recurring nightmare. We've struggled to rid ourselves of this malaise. Every season we dangle over the pit makes it a forgone conclusion that eventually we'll lose our grip and be up to our neck in it.

Makes you wonder what Flitcroft and Evans were doing differently with a similar budget.


Experience of this league. That's the only difference I can see.

Agreed! Both had experience of being at the top end of this league as well.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:01 pm

Current Table

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.13...2...5...6....11....0.92

Required for 50 Points

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.33..13...0..20...39...1.18
.33..12...3..18...39...1.18
.33..11...6..16...39...1.18
.33..10...9..14...39...1.18
.33...9...12.12...39...1.18
.33...8...15.10...39...1.18
.33...7...18..8....39...1.18

Stags current PPG 0.92 over a season would be a potential relegation total of 42 points.

In 2008 Stags were relegated with 42 points.

Southend were relegated last season with 45 points.

After 13 games

2019/20 16 points Dempster
2020/21 11 points (Coughlan was sacked after 9 games, with 5 points)
2021/22 11 points Clough (Clough's last 9 games is 4 points :shock: )

The last Stags manager to go 10 league games without a win was Paul Cox 2013/14 season (13 games).

Very good performance v Port Vale, deserved a win, best home game since 1st game of the season.

Stags not won in 11 games, Exeter not lost in 11 games, so nailed on Stags win :D
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Staggyfox » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:24 pm

I hope Nigel Clough can turnaround Stags results, but with EFL status at risk it needs to be sooner rather than later.[/quote]
Sobering and worrying stats.
We will not be doing a Bloton. We can't even score a goal atm... even against sides below us.[/quote]


Don’t worry…..soon we will only be scoring goals against those higher than us….. :lol:
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:37 pm

Current Table

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.14...2...5...7....11....0.79

Required for 50 Points

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.32..13...0..19...39...1.22
.32..12...3..17...39...1.22
.32..11...6..15...39...1.22
.32..10...9..13...39...1.22
.32...9...12.11...39...1.22
.32...8...15..9....39...1.22
.32...7...18..7....39...1.22

Stags current PPG 0.79 over a season would be a potential relegation total of 36 points. :shock:

In 2008 Stags were relegated with 42 points.

Southend were relegated last season with 45 points.

After 14 games

2019/20 17 points Dempster
2020/21 11 points (Coughlan was sacked after 9 games, with 5 points)
2021/22 11 points Clough (Clough's last 9 games is 4 points :shock: )

The last Stags manager to go 12 league games without a win was Paul Cox 2013/14 season (13 games).
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:46 pm

Current Table

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.15...3...5...7....14....0.93

Required for 50 Points

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.31..12...0..19...36...1.16
.31..11...3..17...36...1.16
.31..10...6..15...36...1.16
.31...9...9...13...36...1.16
.31...8...12.11...36...1.16
.31...7...15..9....36...1.16
.31...6...18..7....36...1.16

Stags current PPG 0.93 over a season would be a potential relegation total of 43 points. :shock:

In 2008 Stags were relegated with 42 points.

Southend were relegated last season with 45 points.

After 15 games

2019/20 17 points Dempster
2020/21 14 points (Coughlan was sacked after 9 games, with 5 points)
2021/22 14 points Clough

Same points as last season.

Two really good home performances v Port Vale & Tranmere, hopefully sustain the standards and start climbing the league table.

Last season the next 10 league games were, Won 5, Drawn 4, Lost 1.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:52 pm

Current Table

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.16...4...5...7....17....1.06

Required for 50 Points

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.30..11...0..19...33...1.10
.30..10...3..17...33...1.10
.30...9....6..15...33...1.10
.30...8...9...13...33...1.10
.30...7...12.11...33...1.10
.30...6...15..9....33...1.10
.30...5...18..7....33...1.10

Stags current PPG 1.06 over a season would be a potential relegation total of 49 points. :shock:

After 16 games

2019/20 20 points Dempster
2020/21 15 points (Coughlan was sacked after 9 games, with 5 points)
2021/22 17 points Clough

2 league wins on the bounce, and with 3 of the next 4 games versus teams below the Stags hopefully the league table will look better approaching Xmas.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Cockney Stag » Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:52 pm

Got to be targeting 15 points from our next 8 games if we're to have any realistic hopes of challenging for playoffs.

Only Forest Green and Harrogate are in the top 7 from our next 8 games until the New Year.
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Bros » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:59 pm

Cockney Stag wrote:Got to be targeting 15 points from our next 8 games if we're to have any realistic hopes of challenging for playoffs.

Only Forest Green and Harrogate are in the top 7 from our next 8 games until the New Year.

We've already played Harrogate. We've still to play Sutton 8th and hartlepool 10th
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Cockney Stag » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:35 pm

We've got Harrogate on the 29th Dec.

Or at least I hope so, I was planning on making the trip up :lol:
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby Bros » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:39 pm

Cockney Stag wrote:We've got Harrogate on the 29th Dec.

Or at least I hope so, I was planning on making the trip up :lol:

Apologies. I was counting only until the half way point of the season. So the next 8 see us play 1st, 5th, 8th and 10th as well as 4 teams below us. I would think 15 points would be a good return
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Re: 50 Points for Stags to Stay Up ?

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:00 pm

Well, well, well, after 5 consecutive wins, 3 in the league, (and 6 bottles of Marstons Pedigree) I've changed the thread title back to it's original "Can Stags make the Play-Offs"

Estimated 71 points required for the Play-Offs

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PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.17...5...5...7....20....1.18

Required for 71 Points

PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
.29..17...0..12...51...1.76
.29..16...3..10...51...1.76
.29..15...6...8....51...1.76
.29..14...9...6....51...1.76
.29..13..12..4....51...1.76

Stags current PPG 1.18 over a season would total of 54 points.

Stags would need to have a PPG of 1.76 for the rest of the season to reach the Play-Offs, which is usually Top 3 form.

Stags are 7 points from the relegation zone and only 6 points from the Play-Offs.

I'm hoping I don't have to change the title thread again.

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Re: Can Stags make the Play-Offs

Postby ParisStag » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:06 pm

If we can win home games and avoid defeat in most away games, we'll make the playoffs. It's doable.
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