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Re: Our Manager

Postby yorkstag » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:04 pm

bigalstag1 wrote:That disgusting, disappointing, and any other adjective, fourth placed finish, begins to look better, season by season, year by year.

You're back. I bet you loved yesterday.

Why do you only post when things are going badly. Serious question?

4th place wasn't any of the adjectives you describe.

I bet you are seriously hoping things don't pick up and it could be you're best season ever since relegation. VVV Sad
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Re: Our Manager

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:09 pm

bear 73 wrote:We have hit rock bottom losing 3 on the trot, this is a time for patience and reality, we are only 2 points of the play offs, with 40 games to go, most clubs have a run of bad results.
The good news expectation levels are now more realistic, after dropping 7 places after losing shows how tight the league is while most clubs are finding there feet.
Negative Nellies can be triggered by a troll, looking for someone to blame when results go against us,
6 games into a season is a good time to shake a squad up, not the last 6 games when it is squeaky bum time,
At a time when patience is called for, A troll appears, someone who is inflammatory- insincere- intent to provoke Negative Nellies to have a emotional response by manipulating their disappointment
I agree.And there are two trolls on here playing mind games by encouraging negativity.
I much rather have "sad and dangerous" and "chumpy" posting on here because they at least don't hide behind a facade.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby yorkstag » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:10 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
bear 73 wrote:We have hit rock bottom losing 3 on the trot, this is a time for patience and reality, we are only 2 points of the play offs, with 40 games to go, most clubs have a run of bad results.
The good news expectation levels are now more realistic, after dropping 7 places after losing shows how tight the league is while most clubs are finding there feet.
Negative Nellies can be triggered by a troll, looking for someone to blame when results go against us,
6 games into a season is a good time to shake a squad up, not the last 6 games when it is squeaky bum time,
At a time when patience is called for, A troll appears, someone who is inflammatory- insincere- intent to provoke Negative Nellies to have a emotional response by manipulating their disappointment
I agree.And there are two trolls on here playing mind games by encouraging negativity.
I much rather have "sad and dangerous" and "chumpy" posting on here because they at least don't hide behind a facade.

Good post
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Re: Our Manager

Postby Jimstag » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:38 pm

Wanted to post some time after yesterday having a reflect. I was disappointed with Clough’s post match interview, we didn’t play well, we were second best and deserved to lose.

The manner of the defeat has brought the reaction out from people. If the ref gives the penalty before they break there’s an opportunity to get back in the game, instead down to 9 men we had no chance really. Not with how we were playing.

The questions for Clough really are if there’s an issue and you didn’t sort it in the transfer window what are you going to do? For me he’s got to change the shape to paper over the cracks in the meantime, a good chance to do it with two centre midfielders out. We’ll see soon.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby gazza1988 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:46 pm

bear 73 wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
bear 73 wrote:We have hit rock bottom losing 3 on the trot, this is a time for patience and reality, we are only 2 points of the play offs, with 40 games to go, most clubs have a run of bad results.
The good news expectation levels are now more realistic, after dropping 7 places after losing shows how tight the league is while most clubs are finding there feet.
Negative Nellies can be triggered by a troll, looking for someone to blame when results go against us,
6 games into a season is a good time to shake a squad up, not the last 6 games when it is squeaky bum time,
At a time when patience is called for, A troll appears, someone who is inflammatory- insincere- intent to provoke Negative Nellies to have a emotional response by manipulating their disappointment

Who are you talking about ?

All the negative posters who are falling for a disappointing 3 game run to be the down fall of our season,, when clearly it is a over reaction


To be pedantic, its only an overreaction if it turns out to be a very early "blip". we will only know if it was an overreaction further into the season.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby Curry 9 Brace 7 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:53 pm

Sinclair should get a game next saturday surely. He was amazing back end of last season.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby bear 73 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:24 pm

We all knew Harrowgate would be a tough game, and with 20 minutes remaining we were still in it at 1-2, the two red cards ended the contest.
Forest fans not happy, Derby fans not happy, and now some of you can join them, no one has mentioned Perch-Forrester, And Rawson with a bad back missing, and Nartey met the squad on Fri, and it was his first game amongst strangers. and their lies our central defenders. Clough has stated he will look at Clarks sending off and Quinn will be dealt with if guilty.
Sure was a bad day at the office, I heard a manager say in the sixties when fans were ranting 3 points on Sat shuts them up, are we still that shallow.
Now is the time to regroup, and move on
Must be difficult scouting players and then they turn you down, perhaps we are not has big a pull has some of us believe.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby bellwhiff » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:32 pm

bear 73 wrote:We all knew Harrowgate would be a tough game, and with 20 minutes remaining we were still in it at 1-2, the two red cards ended the contest.
Forest fans not happy, Derby fans not happy, and now some of you can join them, no one has mentioned Perch-Forrester, And Rawson with a bad back missing, and Nartey met the squad on Fri, and it was his first game amongst strangers. and their lies our central defenders. Clough has stated he will look at Clarks sending off and Quinn will be dealt with if guilty.
Sure was a bad day at the office, I heard a manager say in the sixties when fans were ranting 3 points on Sat shuts them up, are we still that shallow.
Now is the time to regroup, and move on
Must be difficult scouting players and then they turn you down, perhaps we are not has big a pull has some of us believe.
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You think it’s shallow so you, Mr Johnny Come Lately ? You think that NC is above criticism ?
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Re: Our Manager

Postby tillydog123 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:55 pm

Any manager who starts losing 4 or more games on the trot comes under a bit. If pressure
For me Clough is a brilliant manager for us and we are lucky to have him
I don’t know if his brief is long term build or definitive promotion this season
Results are the ultimate marker
Coughlin was given about 10 games or so has Nigel got 6 left ??
Not getting Naylor was cruel on Clough and obviously most other replacements either did not want to come or were not available so he did try to sort a star CB
Hoping Nartey can improve
He deserved a few games to prove himself and hopefully Forrester can provide something extra
On yesterday showing it might be mid table and try for a last minute run for play offs but keeping the faith for a while yet and Harrogate look like our new bogey team after Accrington
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Re: Our Manager

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:15 pm

Curry 9 Brace 7 wrote:Sinclair should get a game next saturday surely. He was amazing back end of last season.


We were talking yesterday about how the pace and urgency going forward on both sides of the pitch at the end of last season appears to be missing after the first twenty minutes of each game.
Law and Sinclair were part of that, especially Sinclair
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Re: Our Manager

Postby Sedgwick » Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:43 pm

tillydog123 wrote:Any manager who starts losing 4 or more games on the trot comes under a bit. If pressure
For me Clough is a brilliant manager for us and we are lucky to have him
I don’t know if his brief is long term build or definitive promotion this season
Results are the ultimate marker
Coughlin was given about 10 games or so has Nigel got 6 left ??
Not getting Naylor was cruel on Clough and obviously most other replacements either did not want to come or were not available so he did try to sort a star CB
Hoping Nartey can improve
He deserved a few games to prove himself and hopefully Forrester can provide something extra
On yesterday showing it might be mid table and try for a last minute run for play offs but keeping the faith for a while yet and Harrogate look like our new bogey team after Accrington


Nartey will come good... he didn't even meet his team mates and was put straight in.

The constant mentioning of missing out on Naylor and not signing a top class CB just at the drop of hat is starting to make me laugh...

Yes it was many weeks ago but like its really as easy as everyone is making out... Little you can do when target B signs for a league one club. Target C does the same on loan. Target D is wanted by their club and you're left with a few hours and a very small pool of players left you know much about.

Theres also one player who was mentioned and said we went for Naylor instead who signed for a league one club also, now near the top of the league too.

And once again, a top class world beating CB will not make one bit of difference when you have midfielders like Clarke and Maris not marking a man at set pieces.


Very excited for William Forrester, from what I've read hes very highly rated and stoke fans want him to smash it here then return and push on at stoke.

Just on the squad as a whole... I think its clear to see the budget is smaller. Squad players lacking in experience and likely on the cheap, Burke, Stirk, Hewitt, 6 youth teamers
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Re: Our Manager

Postby tillydog123 » Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:15 pm

Agree Sedgwick with a lot of that
Sadly nobody was laughing on Saturday though
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Re: Our Manager

Postby Spiritater » Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:03 am

tillydog123 wrote:Any manager who starts losing 4 or more games on the trot comes under a bit. If pressure
For me Clough is a brilliant manager for us and we are lucky to have him
I don’t know if his brief is long term build or definitive promotion this season
Results are the ultimate marker
Coughlin was given about 10 games or so has Nigel got 6 left ??
Not getting Naylor was cruel on Clough and obviously most other replacements either did not want to come or were not available so he did try to sort a star CB
Hoping Nartey can improve
He deserved a few games to prove himself and hopefully Forrester can provide something extra
On yesterday showing it might be mid table and try for a last minute run for play offs but keeping the faith for a while yet and Harrogate look like our new bogey team after Accrington

Coughlan was judged on his ineptitude from the previous season too. He won how many games? Was it 4 out out of 27 and when the axe rightly fell there was not a sign it would change for the better in my opinion.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:12 am

Spiritater wrote:
tillydog123 wrote:Any manager who starts losing 4 or more games on the trot comes under a bit. If pressure
For me Clough is a brilliant manager for us and we are lucky to have him
I don’t know if his brief is long term build or definitive promotion this season
Results are the ultimate marker
Coughlin was given about 10 games or so has Nigel got 6 left ??
Not getting Naylor was cruel on Clough and obviously most other replacements either did not want to come or were not available so he did try to sort a star CB
Hoping Nartey can improve
He deserved a few games to prove himself and hopefully Forrester can provide something extra
On yesterday showing it might be mid table and try for a last minute run for play offs but keeping the faith for a while yet and Harrogate look like our new bogey team after Accrington

Coughlan was judged on his ineptitude from the previous season too. He won how many games? Was it 4 out out of 27 and when the axe rightly fell there was not a sign it would change for the better in my opinion.

Agree that this is a ridiculous precept.
NC hasn’t got a clock on him. He’s as good a manager as we are going to get.

That doesn’t mean we can’t hold his feet to the fire, mind but if anyone is not 100pc behind him, then they’re crazy.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby bear 73 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:46 am

bellwhiff wrote:
bear 73 wrote:We all knew Harrowgate would be a tough game, and with 20 minutes remaining we were still in it at 1-2, the two red cards ended the contest.
Forest fans not happy, Derby fans not happy, and now some of you can join them, no one has mentioned Perch-Forrester, And Rawson with a bad back missing, and Nartey met the squad on Fri, and it was his first game amongst strangers. and their lies our central defenders. Clough has stated he will look at Clarks sending off and Quinn will be dealt with if guilty.
Sure was a bad day at the office, I heard a manager say in the sixties when fans were ranting 3 points on Sat shuts them up, are we still that shallow.
Now is the time to regroup, and move on
Must be difficult scouting players and then they turn you down, perhaps we are not has big a pull has some of us believe.
If you wear the shirt give 100% you will do for me,

You think it’s shallow so you, Mr Johnny Come Lately ? You think that NC is above criticism ?

Belly boy do i think Clough is above criticism No, do i think moaning after a bad result and calling a manager into question, after a bad defeat is fickle, yes
Do i think you have a right to your opinion yes, it is a open forum, do i think having 3 central defenders not available had a effect on the game yes.
Do i think having a strong bench with 20 minutes to go, could have affected the result maybe, Do i think the contest was over being reduced to 9 men yes-
Now the issue that relates to you, , This is a open forum about Mansfield and related football matters, and you cannot resist name calling, petty and shallow.seems to fit your nature.
Its a new season stick to football related matters, being polite please
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Re: Our Manager

Postby gazza1988 » Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:53 am

It's not just 1 game though. 8 competitive games we've conceded 16 goals. 6 league games we've conceded 10.

In those 8 games we scored 9.

Tell me, how many successful sides are there that score a little over 1 goal a game and concede 2 goals a game on average?

We are 6 games in. However the 2 games we won Newport had 4 or 5 fist teamers out injured (long throw specialist, Ellison etc) Bristol rovers had no fit senior strikers. So yeah I have concerns. Not seeing anything to alleviate those. Though I am hopeful Nartey and Forrester will help.

So far for senior games we've kept 1 clean sheet, the final friendly vs Coventry. Every other game listed as a senior game we conceded.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:18 am

bear 73 wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
bear 73 wrote:We all knew Harrowgate would be a tough game, and with 20 minutes remaining we were still in it at 1-2, the two red cards ended the contest.
Forest fans not happy, Derby fans not happy, and now some of you can join them, no one has mentioned Perch-Forrester, And Rawson with a bad back missing, and Nartey met the squad on Fri, and it was his first game amongst strangers. and their lies our central defenders. Clough has stated he will look at Clarks sending off and Quinn will be dealt with if guilty.
Sure was a bad day at the office, I heard a manager say in the sixties when fans were ranting 3 points on Sat shuts them up, are we still that shallow.
Now is the time to regroup, and move on
Must be difficult scouting players and then they turn you down, perhaps we are not has big a pull has some of us believe.
If you wear the shirt give 100% you will do for me,

You think it’s shallow so you, Mr Johnny Come Lately ? You think that NC is above criticism ?

Belly boy do i think Clough is above criticism No, do i think moaning after a bad result and calling a manager into question, after a bad defeat is fickle, yes
Do i think you have a right to your opinion yes, it is a open forum, do i think having 3 central defenders not available had a effect on the game yes.
Do i think having a strong bench with 20 minutes to go, could have affected the result maybe, Do i think the contest was over being reduced to 9 men yes-
Now the issue that relates to you, , This is a open forum about Mansfield and related football matters, and you cannot resist name calling, petty and shallow.seems to fit your nature.
Its a new season stick to football related matters, being polite please

My reply to you was completely football related. What are you on about ?
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Re: Our Manager

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Re: Our Manager

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bear 73 wrote:No comment


That's first ever post of yours I've understood :D
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Re: Our Manager

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:11 pm

Parkinsons Perm wrote:
bear 73 wrote:No comment


That's first ever post of yours I've understood :D


:D :) :) :D
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Re: Our Manager

Postby Captain Cunno » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:57 am

Parkinsons Perm wrote:
bear 73 wrote:No comment


That's first ever post of yours I've understood :D



Chortle... :lol:
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Re: Our Manager

Postby bear 73 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:30 am

Parkinsons Perm wrote:
bear 73 wrote:No comment


That's first ever post of yours I've understood :D

Oh parky, it seems you have trouble understanding a lot of posts, So i am in good company
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Re: Our Manager

Postby Captain Cunno » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:14 am

bear 73 wrote:
Parkinsons Perm wrote:
bear 73 wrote:No comment


That's first ever post of yours I've understood :D

Oh parky, it seems you have trouble understanding a lot of posts, So i am in good company



Oooooooooooossssshhhhhh :lol:
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Re: Our Manager

Postby bellwhiff » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:42 am

Captain Cunno wrote:
bear 73 wrote:
Parkinsons Perm wrote:
bear 73 wrote:No comment


That's first ever post of yours I've understood :D

Oh parky, it seems you have trouble understanding a lot of posts, So i am in good company



Oooooooooooossssshhhhhh :lol:

Harsh comeback this is. Angry he will be.
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Re: Our Manager

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:50 am

bellwhiff wrote:
Captain Cunno wrote:
bear 73 wrote:
Parkinsons Perm wrote:
bear 73 wrote:No comment


That's first ever post of yours I've understood :D

Oh parky, it seems you have trouble understanding a lot of posts, So i am in good company



Oooooooooooossssshhhhhh :lol:

Harsh comeback this is. Angry he will be.


Not angry Belly, his posts always make me smile and I just think he played truant a lot, especially when double English was on the timetable :lol:
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