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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby part time pete » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:22 pm

mansfieldarmy wrote:We are in talks for sure, he has been to the training ground Thursday and Friday



Why should we believe you when you said James Hanson was a dead cert signing in December the other year and Steve Evans was coming back when Coughlan got the gig after JD got sack.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:44 pm

The Scottish Manager brought two experienced ageing centre halves into the squad and look how that turned out.

Also I remember Adam Murray bringing in an ageing experienced centre forward who had scored goals for Forest and other top league sides. He flopped, so much so, I can't even remember his name !

I think losing out on Naylor has proven to be a dilemma for NC.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby MTFCMusings » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:03 pm

Amber Andy wrote:The Scottish Manager brought two experienced ageing centre halves into the squad and look how that turned out.

Also I remember Adam Murray bringing in an ageing experienced centre forward who had scored goals for Forest and other top league sides. He flopped, so much so, I can't even remember his name !

I think losing out on Naylor has proven to be a dilemma for NC.


Diamond and Mirfin were pretty good Andy when they actually played. The problem was the deal and the wages they were on. If they’d have been given a one year deal there wouldn’t have been a problem.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby georgefostersbeard » Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:13 pm

diablo wrote:Another Jake Wright....remember the quote when NC was being asked about the signing...He's not just here to warm the bench...and that's exactly what he did


Wasn't that due to his, early injury and then our back line actually being strong for once in the season?
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:28 am

MTFCMusings wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:The Scottish Manager brought two experienced ageing centre halves into the squad and look how that turned out.

Also I remember Adam Murray bringing in an ageing experienced centre forward who had scored goals for Forest and other top league sides. He flopped, so much so, I can't even remember his name !

I think losing out on Naylor has proven to be a dilemma for NC.


Diamond and Mirfin were pretty good Andy when they actually played. The problem was the deal and the wages they were on. If they’d have been given a one year deal there wouldn’t have been a problem.
There lays the problem. They hardly played ( esp Mirfin). A lot of the teams success was expected to come from them, but it didn't materialise.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Conker » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:20 am

Amber Andy wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:The Scottish Manager brought two experienced ageing centre halves into the squad and look how that turned out.

Also I remember Adam Murray bringing in an ageing experienced centre forward who had scored goals for Forest and other top league sides. He flopped, so much so, I can't even remember his name !

I think losing out on Naylor has proven to be a dilemma for NC.


Diamond and Mirfin were pretty good Andy when they actually played. The problem was the deal and the wages they were on. If they’d have been given a one year deal there wouldn’t have been a problem.
There lays the problem. They hardly played ( esp Mirfin). A lot of the teams success was expected to come from them, but it didn't materialise.


They wouldn’t have signed a one year deal, both players were in decent demand at the time.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:33 am

Conker wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:The Scottish Manager brought two experienced ageing centre halves into the squad and look how that turned out.

Also I remember Adam Murray bringing in an ageing experienced centre forward who had scored goals for Forest and other top league sides. He flopped, so much so, I can't even remember his name !

I think losing out on Naylor has proven to be a dilemma for NC.


Diamond and Mirfin were pretty good Andy when they actually played. The problem was the deal and the wages they were on. If they’d have been given a one year deal there wouldn’t have been a problem.
There lays the problem. They hardly played ( esp Mirfin). A lot of the teams success was expected to come from them, but it didn't materialise.


They wouldn’t have signed a one year deal, both players were in decent demand at the time.
They weren't after they broke down playing for us. And there lays the gamble.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Conker » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:34 am

Amber Andy wrote:
Conker wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:The Scottish Manager brought two experienced ageing centre halves into the squad and look how that turned out.

Also I remember Adam Murray bringing in an ageing experienced centre forward who had scored goals for Forest and other top league sides. He flopped, so much so, I can't even remember his name !

I think losing out on Naylor has proven to be a dilemma for NC.


Diamond and Mirfin were pretty good Andy when they actually played. The problem was the deal and the wages they were on. If they’d have been given a one year deal there wouldn’t have been a problem.
There lays the problem. They hardly played ( esp Mirfin). A lot of the teams success was expected to come from them, but it didn't materialise.


They wouldn’t have signed a one year deal, both players were in decent demand at the time.
They weren't after they broke down playing for us. And there lays the gamble.


Part and parcel of football, no matter the age unfortunately.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby PaulG » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:41 am

I think there's a lot of undue fretting on here. If he's fit, or capable of getting fit, and if he wants to come, how can we be so negative about signing a former England international, World Cup Squad member and stalwart of excellent Premier League defences! At 37, he'll have suffered some wear and tear, but presumably that can be managed; it's not as if he'd be expected to start every match. And can you imagine the effect of his presence in the dressing room on the youngsters in the squad. If we could get 15 to 20 matches out of him, I think it's a no-brainer!
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby yorkshire stag » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:08 am

should find out soon enough
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby bellwhiff » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:10 am

yorkshire stag wrote:should find out soon enough

Hahaha. Bet you’re pacing the sitting room hitting F5 every ten seconds.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby yorkshire stag » Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:23 am

bellwhiff wrote:
yorkshire stag wrote:should find out soon enough

Hahaha. Bet you’re pacing the sitting room hitting F5 every ten seconds.


Hahaha did you wet ya pants typing it ?
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Gloryboy » Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:13 pm

one f in mansfield wrote:Nobody will ever win anything with two central defenders well into their 30’s .

erm……. Apart from Italy
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby MTFCMusings » Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:14 pm

Gloryboy wrote:
one f in mansfield wrote:Nobody will ever win anything with two central defenders well into their 30’s .

erm……. Apart from Italy


I think that was the point.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Captain Cunno » Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:46 pm

This has made it to a Talk Forest TV page on Facebook..


Bravo mansfieldarmy good work sir :lol:
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby robbingdog » Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:29 pm

so whens he signing???
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby adamstag » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:13 pm

Remember the quote from paul scholes (not exactly) basically he said he made up for the increasing lack of speed by reading the game better.

Maybe that’s the case here?

Also the pitch has been shortened which also reduces the effectiveness of pace.

As if folk are scoffing at having michael dawson at the club! just his experience would be worth it’s weight in gold, i genuinely wonder what some are on here! good lord!
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Spiritater » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:47 pm

So if he's training with us and is serious about getting match fit and wanting a club there's no reason why he can't be A Trialist tomorrow night at Buxton... is there eh?
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby yorkshire stag » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:58 pm

Spiritater wrote:So if he's training with us and is serious about getting match fit and wanting a club there's no reason why he can't be A Trialist tomorrow night at Buxton... is there eh?


now ya for it :o
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Spiritater » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:08 pm

Taking the trip to see matey, all being well.
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby yorkshire stag » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:10 pm

Spiritater wrote:Taking the trip to see matey, all being well.


full report required squire plz
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Sedgwick » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:12 pm

adamstag wrote:Remember the quote from paul scholes (not exactly) basically he said he made up for the increasing lack of speed by reading the game better.

Maybe that’s the case here?

Also the pitch has been shortened which also reduces the effectiveness of pace.

As if folk are scoffing at having michael dawson at the club! just his experience would be worth it’s weight in gold, i genuinely wonder what some are on here! good lord!


No it hasn't... didn't we establish this already? Its just the gravel around the pitch thats been done... or has mez said differently :lol:

plus by that logic, shorter pitch plus pace striker = less time to get after them and recover

Doesn't make much difference making your pitch shorter anyway, its not by much


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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby tillydog123 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:21 pm

I would say 37 is pushing it even for league 2 but if Nigel wants him and price right why not but would see him as cover and not likely to play 40 plus games
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby adamstag » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:39 pm

Sedgwick wrote:
adamstag wrote:Remember the quote from paul scholes (not exactly) basically he said he made up for the increasing lack of speed by reading the game better.

Maybe that’s the case here?

Also the pitch has been shortened which also reduces the effectiveness of pace.

As if folk are scoffing at having michael dawson at the club! just his experience would be worth it’s weight in gold, i genuinely wonder what some are on here! good lord!


No it hasn't... didn't we establish this already? Its just the gravel around the pitch thats been done... or has mez said differently :lol:

plus by that logic, shorter pitch plus pace striker = less time to get after them and recover

Doesn't make much difference making your pitch shorter anyway, its not by much


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I’ve not been, but was told by pretty much folk that went to coventry said the pitch was shorter, maybe it’s an optical illusion.

However, it’s a well established football trick if you’ve an older squad you reduce the size of your overall pitch, kinda obvious (if it has been done)

Still, if we were fortunate enough to get dawson at a reasonable wage it would be an amazing signing, the experience and nouse he’d bring to the defence, especially given all the nonsense and mistakes made last season
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Re: Michael Dawson

Postby Jimstag » Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:11 am

Clough will see what he needs to know in training, can this guy get and keep fit? If he’s still got it he could be after a starting position. If he’s only going to be a bit part player then has he got the right attitude and will he be available when called upon? It’s that simple because he would be on trial if he wasn’t happy with the finances which would have been my other concern.
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