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Problems Up Front

Postby Norman » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:45 pm

Our strikers are virtually none existent. Bowery ain’t going to get us goals. I don’t think Clough fancies Cook he’s too slow and immobile, he had a couple of decent games at the start of the season but faded away. .Maynard looks disinterest half the time and he’s probably only here for a last pay day and the lad Reid looks like he’s struggling to make the step up from the national league ! Don’t know we’re the goals will come from without the midfield chipping in.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby chip63 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:02 pm

He's picking the 2 best strikers we have at the moment, our biggest mistake was the sale of Rose.
Think Clough would of got more from Rose and Rose given more back.
Is it the first game we haven't scored?
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Sweden Stag » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:07 pm

chip63 wrote:He's picking the 2 best strikers we have at the moment, our biggest mistake was the sale of Rose.
Think Clough would of got more from Rose and Rose given more back.
Is it the first game we haven't scored?

First under Clough. Before tonight and before Clough, we had goal-less draws at home to Tranmere and Stevenage and away at Cheltenham.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby chip63 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:09 pm

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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Norman » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:10 pm

chip63 wrote:He's picking the 2 best strikers we have at the moment, our biggest mistake was the sale of Rose.
Think Clough would of got more from Rose and Rose given more back.
Is it the first game we haven't scored?


Rose ain’t pulling any trees up at Northampton . He’s permanently on the bench!
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby chip63 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:17 pm

Norman wrote:
chip63 wrote:He's picking the 2 best strikers we have at the moment, our biggest mistake was the sale of Rose.
Think Clough would of got more from Rose and Rose given more back.
Is it the first game we haven't scored?


Rose ain’t pulling any trees up at Northampton . He’s permanently on the bench!


Sadly we will never know how Rose would do under Clough, he's improved Bowery.
Not long to January and hopefully the name Clough will entice players here, not our league position.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby stagone1959 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:22 pm

chip63 wrote:He's picking the 2 best strikers we have at the moment, our biggest mistake was the sale of Rose.
Think Clough would of got more from Rose and Rose given more back.
Is it the first game we haven't scored?




Oh no he is'nt,Cook tailed off because he got dropped despite playing well.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:26 pm

stagone1959 wrote:
chip63 wrote:He's picking the 2 best strikers we have at the moment, our biggest mistake was the sale of Rose.
Think Clough would of got more from Rose and Rose given more back.
Is it the first game we haven't scored?




Oh no he is'nt,Cook tailed off because he got dropped despite playing well.


Got to agree, we need goals and Cook's record against Bowery's is no competition
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby adamstag » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:29 pm

For me the best 2 is Maynard and cook, cook isn’t quite as good in the air as Bowery but cook knows what a goal is.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby lifestags » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:31 pm

For me Maynards performances means he should be dropped, he’s never really involved in the game.

He is fortunate that the only other different striker we have is Reid and he looks 2 yard off the pace.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Spiritater » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:48 pm

Maynards only here cos he couldn't get fixed up anywhere else. Not because he REALLY wanted to be.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby chip63 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:00 pm

For some reason cook/Maynard have never been given a run together from any manager.
They probably are our best strikers but not the best partnership.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby PEAR CIDER » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 am

stagone1959 wrote:
chip63 wrote:He's picking the 2 best strikers we have at the moment, our biggest mistake was the sale of Rose.
Think Clough would of got more from Rose and Rose given more back.
Is it the first game we haven't scored?




Oh no he is'nt,Cook tailed off because he got dropped despite playing well.

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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Bradders » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:14 am

chip63 wrote:For some reason cook/Maynard have never been given a run together from any manager.
They probably are our best strikers but not the best partnership.

I think that Cook looks for his own goalscoring opportunities rather than setting up chances, whereas Bowery is good for holding the ball and giving others a chance. Hence Bowery being a better partner for Maynard.
I know that Bowery can't score, but at least when the ball goes forwards there's some hope that it will stay up there for a bit.
Maynard isn't disinterested, but he's clearly been told to stay in goalscoring positions rather than track back too much, making him less involved. Finishing wise he's the best we have, although not exactly showing a lot of quality last night. But then most of them looked like they'd never seen a ball before.

If Cook's form is because he got dropped I'd say that he's lacking in character. You fight back in those circumstances, you don't just go through the motions.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby wardy12345 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:00 am

Is it time to bring Danny Rose back to the one call
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Curry 9 Brace 7 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:12 am

Maybe the service to Maynard isn't up to much?
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:23 am

Bradders wrote:
chip63 wrote:For some reason cook/Maynard have never been given a run together from any manager.
They probably are our best strikers but not the best partnership.

I think that Cook looks for his own goalscoring opportunities rather than setting up chances, whereas Bowery is good for holding the ball and giving others a chance. Hence Bowery being a better partner for Maynard.
I know that Bowery can't score, but at least when the ball goes forwards there's some hope that it will stay up there for a bit.
Maynard isn't disinterested, but he's clearly been told to stay in goalscoring positions rather than track back too much, making him less involved. Finishing wise he's the best we have, although not exactly showing a lot of quality last night. But then most of them looked like they'd never seen a ball before.

If Cook's form is because he got dropped I'd say that he's lacking in character. You fight back in those circumstances, you don't just go through the motions.


You mean like the end of last season when Cook scored a few goals out of nothing, give me goals like that over Bowerys poor hold up play anytime. Goals get you points :?
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby stagone1959 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:29 am

I wasn't saying that Cook has tailed off because he got dropped,I am saying that it is difficult to do anything whilst sat on the bench.
The only striker going through the motions is Maynard,it takes him 4 chances before he actually converts one.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Dan » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:31 am

I thought Cook looked really good when he came on. Held the ball up, took players on and had more shots than the other two did all game.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby bellwhiff » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:02 am

Whatever the solution is, the problem is that we aren’t scoring enough. Is it because the strikers are bad or they’re not getting the chances ?
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Captain Cunno » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:23 am

Very Alanis Morrisette we are having problems up front with a Jordan in our team...
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby bear 73 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:45 am

wages in football are important, and yesterday Harrogate did not need a goalkeeper our players were hitting row z with every effort, we played them strikers, attacking midfielders.
the big men up for corners and free kicks and i did not see, why they needed a goal keeper, but we could have done with about 50 ball boys a word comes to mind over the so=called efforts on goal PATHETIC just hitting the target the first rule to scoring
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby Captain Cunno » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:47 am

Reading this has given me dyslexia....
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby pemill » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:38 pm

chip63 wrote:He's picking the 2 best strikers we have at the moment, our biggest mistake was the sale of Rose.
Think Clough would of got more from Rose and Rose given more back.
Is it the first game we haven't scored?


We got rid of Rose because he wasn't a goal scorer either, a bit like the DF situation, we need to move on.
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Re: Problems Up Front

Postby bobbystagsfan » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:43 pm

wardy12345 wrote:Is it time to bring Danny Rose back to the one call



Lol, wasn't good enough for us apparently.
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