EdwinstoweStag wrote:Anyone else spotted the recent trajectory?
[apologies to “Only Connect”]
1. STEVE EVANS - foul person with good promotion pedigree
2. DAVID FLITCROFT - nicer bloke by far, but with little pedigree
3. JOHN DEMPSTER - nice bloke but zero pedigree
Next?
4. SAMMY STAG maybe?
Sorry, I’ve been on the gin!
NorthLondonStag wrote:Maybe they are lining Drewe up to take the job
Dan wrote:Now who’s making themselves look daft
The One wrote:Sir Dave Smith came from Arsenal coaching staff
Vice President wrote:The One wrote:Sir Dave Smith came from Arsenal coaching staff
Quality! - My favourite Stags manager of all time. He created the 'glory years'.
Ian Greaves was also quality - but Sir Dave had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Mansfield - and Dave Smith set up our one and only double promotion team, laying the foundation for our most successful team ever.
Have Arsenal got any one going spare on their coaching staff at the mo?
tinman wrote:Lets hope one day we will have a 'Dave Smith Stand'
Lets say its the North Stand, re-united with the Stags fans, that would be the icing on the cake
Fitzy499 wrote:I’d take ant and dec at the moment
gazza1988 wrote:Fitzy499 wrote:I’d take ant and dec at the moment
Maybe we are waiting for them to return from Oz?
adamstag wrote:gazza1988 wrote:Fitzy499 wrote:I’d take ant and dec at the moment
Maybe we are waiting for them to return from Oz?
Well if ants about you’ll need to hide that gin.
The One wrote:Vice President wrote:The One wrote:Sir Dave Smith came from Arsenal coaching staff
Quality! - My favourite Stags manager of all time. He created the 'glory years'.
Ian Greaves was also quality - but Sir Dave had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Mansfield - and Dave Smith set up our one and only double promotion team, laying the foundation for our most successful team ever.
Have Arsenal got any one going spare on their coaching staff at the mo?
Wenger. You are right Sir Daves team best team ever at the mill. Oh for those days again.
part time pete wrote:I have feeling we lost game no.27 as well.
I think we then went 19 games unbeaten until the end of the season.
11 home games and eight away. The eight away games were seven wins plus a last game of season with a 2-2 draw at Port Vale.
ST4GS wrote:The One wrote:Vice President wrote:The One wrote:Sir Dave Smith came from Arsenal coaching staff
Quality! - My favourite Stags manager of all time. He created the 'glory years'.
Ian Greaves was also quality - but Sir Dave had us playing the best football I have ever seen at Mansfield - and Dave Smith set up our one and only double promotion team, laying the foundation for our most successful team ever.
Have Arsenal got any one going spare on their coaching staff at the mo?
Wenger. You are right Sir Daves team best team ever at the mill. Oh for those days again.
It is a good job we kept our nerve and did not sack him During February 1976 when we were stranded at the bottom of Division 3.
Nowadays you see managers gaining a promotion (sometimes unexpectedly) and then relieved of their duties the next season after a few months.
ie Tisdale at MK Dons, that German fellow at Huddersfield who massively overachieved for two seasons then bang (he was gone)
League Division Three table after close of play on 10 February 1976
1 Hereford United 27 15 7 5 52 35 1.486 17 37
2 Crystal Palace 29 13 10 6 46 30 1.533 16 36
3 Brighton and Hove Albion 28 16 3 9 52 30 1.733 22 35
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4 Shrewsbury Town 28 14 6 8 41 33 1.242 8 34
5 Peterborough United 27 11 11 5 46 34 1.353 12 33
6 Cardiff City 28 13 6 9 44 35 1.257 9 32
7 Walsall 30 12 8 10 44 40 1.100 4 32
8 Port Vale 29 10 9 10 34 30 1.133 4 29
9 Wrexham 29 11 7 11 36 35 1.029 1 29
10 Millwall 29 9 11 9 32 36 0.889 -4 29
11 Gillingham 27 8 12 7 33 33 1.000 0 28
12 Rotherham United 28 11 6 11 36 38 0.947 -2 28
13 Preston North End 28 11 6 11 33 37 0.892 -4 28
14 Chester 27 10 8 9 31 36 0.861 -5 28
15 Bury 26 8 11 7 30 25 1.200 5 27
16 Grimsby Town 28 10 6 12 40 48 0.833 -8 26
17 Swindon Town 28 10 4 14 42 50 0.840 -8 24
18 Aldershot 27 8 8 11 37 46 0.804 -9 24
19 Southend United 25 8 6 11 39 41 0.951 -2 22
20 Chesterfield 28 8 6 14 41 46 0.891 -5 22
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21 Sheffield Wednesday 27 5 12 10 30 34 0.882 -4 22
22 Halifax Town 26 7 8 11 28 38 0.737 -10 22
23 Colchester United 29 7 7 15 23 48 0.479 -25 21
24 Mansfield Town 26 4 8 14 29 41 0.707 -12 16
Vice President wrote:Back on topic - Lets look at recent history:-
John Dempster is a re-run of Adam Murray and Duncan Russell. (Cheap option, no pedigree). There is a clear pattern of failure here.
The appointments of Steve Evans & David Flitcroft (both had a succesful track record, both appointed without an interview process). This was quite successful - If either of them had have had an extra season I believe they would have achieved promotion.
Going back further in time looking at promotion winning managers: Paul Cox (Track record but at a very low level), Ian Greaves (Track record and at a much higher level), George Foster (no track record but inherited Ian Greaves' set up), Dave Smith (??), Peter Morris (no management track record, but inherited Dave Smith's set up, plus had higher league experience). Stuart Watkiss (no track record, but inherited Billy Deardon's set-up).
I guess they hoped that JD would do what Watkiss, Foster & Morris achieved .... but he is actually a Duncan Russel/ Adam Murray.
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