DEMPSTER OUT

[julianshatnasty]

But how many fans are lost by essentially misleading us. How far doesn't the negativity go. If it continues things will just get uglier and uglier which will effect the team more and more.

The board are clueless if they think we can carry on like this. Only a very strong run of form or a change will turn the tide.

And looking at the attendances so far this season at home, no one has quit on us yet, they've been largely the same. Anger yes, but no financial drop off.

[Jamie]

Talk of going down is daft. It simply wont happen this year. We aren't the worst team and will continue to get a few points as we go. Certainly enough to stay up.

[PEAR CIDER]

The facebook poll has been removed and not by the person who started it...

Wonder if this one will go?

Why would it? No rules broken.

We know in past previous stuff has been removed upon request of the club.

[yorkshire stag]

wow whatever happened to freedom of speech ......on a non official fans site !!!!! really ?

[gazza1988]

I'm curious, why do we need to consolidate? Why is it Flitcroft fault? I'd blame the guy who managed 12th signing 18 million players (slight exaggeration )

The board have said that budgets haven't changed, so surely keep the guy who finished 4th rather than get rid of him.

It's plain as day. Demps won 3 youth titles in a row as manager of our youth team. There is some merit to that. However they were kids who have one aim to "make it as a pro" and attendances of 1-5% of our home gates. It's a new kettle of fish managing adults who have already "made it as a pro" in attendances of 4000 or so. I'm not saying Dempster had never experienced losing before but 3 league titles suggest there's not many. I barely attended any youth games but at no point did they set up camp in their own penalty area for large portions of the game.

It's not consolidation it's a huge backfire. Consolidation is keeping it the same and not progressing we've regressed and quite badly, in both results and performance levels. That's the pressing issue.

Had we consolidated under Flitcroft (ie results the same) this season we would have enough points and GD to be 2nd right now. Teams behind us will have a game in hand but that means little until they are played.. That's pretty damning in my view.

I'm usually the last person to turn my back on a manager. I'm usually the guy arguing that whoever is in charge should get more time. I did it for holdsworth, Russel, Cox and Murray I dug and dug for arguments for keeping them on. I literally cannot find a case compelling enough to think he is the right man. He's inherited one of the easiest jobs in professional football and can't manage it. He's got a settled squad that performed well last season and turned them into a hoof ball ultra defensive side

[Jamie]

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[PEAR CIDER]

He been sacked yet?

The board will read this

Even the most happiest of clappers have turned.

Sack now before its too late

[EdwinstoweStag]

It’s NOT Dempster fault.

THE BLAME LIES WITH THE BOARD

[Parkinsons Perm]

It’s NOT Dempster fault.

THE BLAME LIES WITH THE BOARD

Ahhh, so JR is interfering, picking the team and tactics.
Another Eric Sykes comment from Eddy

[EdwinstoweStag]

It’s NOT Dempster fault.

THE BLAME LIES WITH THE BOARD

Ahhh, so JR is interfering, picking the team and tactics.
Another Eric Sykes comment from Eddy

You’re not that dense, Woody. The Board opted (wrongly) to:

A) sack Flitcroft, and
B) appoint a rookie replacement

.... and, I suspect, NOT IN THAT ORDER!

[Foresttownstag]

It’s NOT Dempster fault.

THE BLAME LIES WITH THE BOARD

Ahhh, so JR is interfering, picking the team and tactics.
Another Eric Sykes comment from Eddy

You’re not that dense, Woody. The Board opted (wrongly) to:

A) sack Flitcroft, and
B) appoint a rookie replacement

.... and, I suspect, NOT IN THAT ORDER!

I agree partly with you Edders.

I’m not blaming JD for taking the job, we all would have a crack at it in his position. It’s getting obvious that he’s not up to the task and needs to be replaced, fingers will begin to point at the board the longer this goes on.

[oldweststander]

It’s NOT Dempster fault.

THE BLAME LIES WITH THE BOARD

Ahhh, so JR is interfering, picking the team and tactics.
Another Eric Sykes comment from Eddy

You’re not that dense, Woody. The Board opted (wrongly) to:

A) sack Flitcroft, and
B) appoint a rookie replacement

.... and, I suspect, NOT IN THAT ORDER!

Same thoughts Edders, the board are the culprits but then again, it's their club to do with as they will but they should not expect the supporters to keep coming back for more garbage.

The gates will start to tumble immediately we are out of the FA Cup, that tournament is the supporters life line.

[yorkshire stag]

i don’t think the board were wrong to sack Flip Flop at all, i think they were wrong to appoint JD

[cassellswasmagic]

i don’t think the board were wrong to sack Flip Flop at all, i think they were wrong to appoint JD

This.

[victor A block]

With the possible exception of our dear friend Carlton , in the 40 years I've been going, given the squad he has at his disposal , he's potentially the worst manager we've had . Incredible that he's still here . The owners rightly carry massive respect amongst the vast majority if fans , but this will affect that the longer this goes on . Either that , or as others have posted they should come out and clarify that our ambitions this season are simply to still be a league club at the end of it .

[gazza1988]

Billy McEwan has the same record and Duncan Russell has a better record. Both managed us for a similar amount of time. Carlton Palmer so far has a better record (win% wise)

[Stags 2002]

i don’t think the board were wrong to sack Flip Flop at all, i think they were wrong to appoint JD

This.

Agreed. This has always been the case. Dempster as manager has effectively carried on the form we'd seen towards the end of last season (feb at Newport onwards). Flitcroft's catastrophic demise was well and truly hidden by early season form that propelled us up the table hence why some still clamour for his reappointment. The real reason for the failings this season equally steams from a summer of poor recruitment when only the forward issues where addressed ignoring the needs of Centre midfield.

In some ways I do sympathise with JD (doesn't change that he needs to go) but he's been stitched up like a kipper without guidance other than thinking bringing in new forwards and cover for Hayden White would solve the issues. I don't know how much he'd watched the first team last season but our form dropped as Bishop's leg gave way (didn't seem the same player after Carlisle away in January when he got sent off at half time) it was always going to be a stretch going into the season with a 38 year old central to our plans no matter how good some of his performances where last year. Big things where expected of Mini Bish i.e Tomlinson but he doesn't seem to be progressing as the natural replacement we thought he could be.

Failings in central midfield means the opposition can now run straight through and this in turn puts extra pressure on the defence, couple that with an inconsistent back line and no wonder our defence at times this season has gone from being solid as a rock to a leaking bucket.

The defensive and negative tactics deployed by Dempster is only further compounding matters and is the reason why he should quite rightly be dismissed, this is the area he can influence whilst the transfer window is shut by taking the game to teams but chooses not too hence why we are in the position we find ourselves of dull frustrating negative football devoid of any entertainment and fans wanting this failed experiment of promoting from within to end.

[sunray]

Let's be realistic the Board quite rightly wants to give JD a 150% chance to make it. Mid table is the norm for Mansfield. After last season's success and the same players fans expectation are so much more.

With JR and CR out of the country most of the time and the likes of Steve Hymas taking a hands off approach it would be wrong for the board to sack JD on the demands of hyped up fans.

JD needs to accept his team choice, tactics and subbing have been poor but learn and progress. If not please go now.

The many of the players have individually been poor. None of the older professionals have set up to lead to team on the pitch.

If the fans and the players get behind JD we can easily make the play offs. The Board should set clear public targets to the end of March as the time to make the decision. Top 10 keep, 11 > 18 maybe and below he goes. That's fair to JD and should calm the fans down.

Let's be honest and open to stop the rubbish atmosphere at games.

[lifestags]

We are a very very average football team, it is absolutely awful. John Dempster has no idea what he is doing, he needs to go. The football on offer is absolutely atrocious.

[Parkinsons Perm]

Let's be realistic the Board quite rightly wants to give JD a 150% chance to make it. Mid table is the norm for Mansfield. After last season's success and the same players fans expectation are so much more.

With JR and CR out of the country most of the time and the likes of Steve Hymas taking a hands off approach it would be wrong for the board to sack JD on the demands of hyped up fans.

JD needs to accept his team choice, tactics and subbing have been poor but learn and progress. If not please go now.

The many of the players have individually been poor. None of the older professionals have set up to lead to team on the pitch.

If the fans and the players get behind JD we can easily make the play offs. The Board should set clear public targets to the end of March as the time to make the decision. Top 10 keep, 11 > 18 maybe and below he goes. That's fair to JD and should calm the fans down.

Let's be honest and open to stop the rubbish atmosphere at games.

Ok Drewe

[Chrisuknottm]

Let's be realistic the Board quite rightly wants to give JD a 150% chance to make it. Mid table is the norm for Mansfield. After last season's success and the same players fans expectation are so much more.

With JR and CR out of the country most of the time and the likes of Steve Hymas taking a hands off approach it would be wrong for the board to sack JD on the demands of hyped up fans.

JD needs to accept his team choice, tactics and subbing have been poor but learn and progress. If not please go now.

The many of the players have individually been poor. None of the older professionals have set up to lead to team on the pitch.

If the fans and the players get behind JD we can easily make the play offs. The Board should set clear public targets to the end of March as the time to make the decision. Top 10 keep, 11 > 18 maybe and below he goes. That's fair to JD and should calm the fans down.

Let's be honest and open to stop the rubbish atmosphere at games.

Why are you advocating failure in sticking with a clueless hopeless defensive minded manager

[arsene wengers coat]

When Evans was here, he split opinion but we were going in the right direction, so all the talks was irrelevant because we could handle having an idiot in charge, the league made up for it.

The utter tripe we've seen this season is not only making the fans turn against the management, but also each other, and the board. A promotion tilt looks impossible.

It's tearing us apart.

What a horrible place to be.

[Amber Andy]

i don’t think the board were wrong to sack Flip Flop at all, i think they were wrong to appoint JD

Appalling decision to sack Flitcroft.

[Amber Andy]

When Evans was here, he split opinion but we were going in the right direction, so all the talks was irrelevant because we could handle having an idiot in charge, the league made up for it.

The utter tripe we've seen this season is not only making the fans turn against the management, but also each other, and the board. A promotion tilt looks impossible.

It's tearing us apart.

What a horrible place to be.

What exactly did the Scottish manager achieve at our club?

[gazza1988]

When Evans was here, he split opinion but we were going in the right direction, so all the talks was irrelevant because we could handle having an idiot in charge, the league made up for it.

The utter tripe we've seen this season is not only making the fans turn against the management, but also each other, and the board. A promotion tilt looks impossible.

It's tearing us apart.

What a horrible place to be.

What exactly did the Scottish manager achieve at our club?

5th place spot one February and a massive wage bill.