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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Dan » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:18 pm

Jamie wrote:We arent even good at being so defensive.


:lol: :lol: :lol: We've just kept our 2nd clean sheet in a week! :lol:
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:29 pm

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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Dan » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:41 pm

gazza1988 wrote:At least we don't have to suffer missing out on autos by 1 goal in the final game of the season again. Also at least we won't lose in the playoffs. We will be nowhere near either scenario.


Thank you Mystic Meg. :roll:

You do realise it's only November don't you?! :roll:
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Sneag » Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:52 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:


He's on flipping crack if he thinks we're building to a strong finish.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Hjeldefan » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:32 am

Not sure I have ever seen anyone in the game as irritating as drewe broughton. All this absolute nonsense about people 'in the game's or 'in the industry' as a way of acting like he is above the fans. A high performance coach in nothing but name.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:25 am

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Well he would say all this wouldn't he? He's got to support his mate who recruited him personally but anything less means his own position comes under scrutiny.

I'm sure someone will correct me but I believe we've lost more home games since he joined than before and whilst the early season play was frightening it wasn't the absolute defensive "get a draw at all costs" dross being served up on his watch.

But then what do I know about the world of specialist high performance motivators. He has moved some warm up sessions to the West Stand side of the pitch I suppose?!?
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby spanishstag » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:32 am

WVStag wrote:I just want spanishstag to tell us how pathetic we all are for wanting him gone. All this doesn't feel right without it.


Well this is why i dont get some on here,its obviously not working ,i admit that the football is dire and aimless ,but some seem to revel in the ,i told you mode .I have watched every game this season but unless my punctuation is spot on my view is worthless according to some nuff said from me
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Jamie » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:44 am

Dan wrote:
Jamie wrote:We arent even good at being so defensive.


:lol: :lol: :lol: We've just kept our 2nd clean sheet in a week! :lol:


Because our defensive record has been so strong this year... Oh wait... yes we've had a clean sheet against the worst team in the conference and a team who we should have at least tried to beat.

We get it, you're mates with JD. Your a lone ranger on this one. Hes a poor manager and needs to be replaced. Can you give any good reasons why he should stay?
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby PEAR CIDER » Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:47 am

I quite liked drew when he joinen

Now
Think he needs to stay off twitter.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Spiritater » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:49 am

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Broughton is deluded

Drewe, the question is,
Would you gladly fork out 60-70 quid for the privilege of watching this utter tripe on a Saturday afternoon?
I listened to Stevo's commo yesterday and his co comm was the guy who updates the social media match feed. His stark comment was, 'there's absolutely no transition from defence to attack', in effect we played as though we didnt have a midfield as they were all defensive minded.
The commo time and again referred to balls launched forward from players like Clogger and Shaunessy that had they been sent into orbit would've been touching down on the moon by now such was the lack of any finesse.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:55 am

It would be nice if we could win the “second ball” every once in a while
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby BH_Stag » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:59 am

Chander Lear wrote:I quite liked drew when he joinen

Now
Think he needs to stay off twitter.


Agreed, I think he comes across very arrogant. He’s pretty dismissive of anybody who isn’t an ex pro, seems to enjoy having sly dig at fans and getting in to little spats with them - he really thinks he’s something special.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:01 am

BH_Stag wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:I quite liked drew when he joinen

Now
Think he needs to stay off twitter.


Agreed, I think he comes across very arrogant. He’s pretty dismissive of anybody who isn’t an ex pro, seems to enjoy having sly dig at fans and getting in to little spats with them - he really thinks he’s something special.


He’s a freeloader
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby gazza1988 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:08 am

Dan wrote:
gazza1988 wrote:At least we don't have to suffer missing out on autos by 1 goal in the final game of the season again. Also at least we won't lose in the playoffs. We will be nowhere near either scenario.


Thank you Mystic Meg. :roll:

You do realise it's only November don't you?! :roll:


You are welcome.

You do realise that at this stage last season the team in 14th went on to finish 15th?

The top ten at this stage last season (18 game in) was:
MK Dons
Lincoln
Newport
Colchester
Mansfield
Exeter
Tranmere
Bury
Stevenage
Forest Green

Top ten at last seasons end:
Lincoln
Bury
MK Dons
Mansfield
Forest Green
Tranmere
Newport
Colchester
Exeter
Stevenage

It's the same clubs just a different order.

The season before that season, the team in 14th at this stage ended up..... 12th

I'm bored on a Sunday morning so let's compare the top 10s again, this time I'll list the top 10 after 18games but put in brackets the position they finished in (to keep post length down) :

1. Notts County (5th)
2. Luton (2nd)
3. Accrington (1st)
4. Exeter (4th)
5. Swindon (9th)
6. Wycombe (3rd)
7. Coventry (6th)
8. Mansfield (8th)
9. Newport (11th)
10. Lincoln (7th)

As an aside Carlisle finished in 10th that season and they were 11th after 18 games.

So yes I realise it is November and there's your proof that the league has largely taken shape by this point of the season.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Foresttownstag » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:09 am

BH_Stag wrote:
Chander Lear wrote:I quite liked drew when he joinen

Now
Think he needs to stay off twitter.


Agreed, I think he comes across very arrogant. He’s pretty dismissive of anybody who isn’t an ex pro, seems to enjoy having sly dig at fans and getting in to little spats with them - he really thinks he’s something special.


Absolutely.

When in fact he was a bang average lower league footballer who had more clubs than Tiger Woods.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Jamie » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:12 am

There are examples of teams recovering from here and getting into the play offs. It usually happens following a change of manager or approach.

As the saying goes... if you do what you did. You get what you got.

We've had plenty of games to see what JD is all about. If we carry on like this we'll end up mid table - anywhere from 10th to 18th.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby gazza1988 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:23 am

I realise that Jamie. We have an example in fairly recent history, Paul Cox. It was said at aroind this point in our title winning season that he would need to repeat what he did the season before and that he was fortunate to do it the first time.

The rate we are going we won't do that. We have a positivity coach whose job seems to be to hand out rose tinted specs after every terrible performance. It's really a dangerous situation, there's no room for any kind of criticism, even the constructive kind.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby James » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:32 am

gazza1988 wrote:I realise that Jamie. We have an example in fairly recent history, Paul Cox. It was said at aroind this point in our title winning season that he would need to repeat what he did the season before and that he was fortunate to do it the first time.

The rate we are going we won't do that. We have a positivity coach whose job seems to be to hand out rose tinted specs after every terrible performance. It's really a dangerous situation, there's no room for any kind of criticism, even the constructive kind.


Yeah, but running stats. Something about lions. You just don’t know the industry.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby I am Spartacus » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:41 am

Dan wrote:
Jamie wrote:We arent even good at being so defensive.


:lol: :lol: :lol: We've just kept our 2nd clean sheet in a week! :lol:


Swindon, Northampton, Crewe and Cheltenham are the opposition in the next few weeks. Judge the quality of the defence with the results against the like of them and not part timers.

Gloating because we haven’t conceded, more through the opposition being toothless than we playing well defensively does not become anyone. Keep clean sheets, play well as a winning team and then gloat.
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Foresttownstag » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:43 am

The high performance coach has just put another tweet up this morning banging on about negativity.

Another dig at the fans?
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:44 am

I am Spartacus wrote:
Dan wrote:
Jamie wrote:We arent even good at being so defensive.


:lol: :lol: :lol: We've just kept our 2nd clean sheet in a week! :lol:


Swindon, Northampton, Crewe and Cheltenham are the opposition in the next few weeks. Judge the quality of the defence with the results against the like of them and not part timers.

Gloating because we haven’t conceded, more through the opposition being toothless than we playing well defensively does not become anyone. Keep clean sheets, play well as a winning team and then gloat.


.... and even then, DON’T
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Chrisuknottm » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:45 am

Foresttownstag wrote:The high performance coach has just put another tweet up this morning banging on about negativity.

Another dig at the fans?


Just give us something to be positive about then rather than this mind numbing defensive dross........ maybe he's just seen the writing on the wall.....if Dempster goes then undoubtedly he will too
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby I am Spartacus » Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:53 am

Chrisuknottm wrote:
Foresttownstag wrote:The high performance coach has just put another tweet up this morning banging on about negativity.

Another dig at the fans?


Just give us something to be positive about then rather than this mind numbing defensive dross........ maybe he's just seen the writing on the wall.....if Dempster goes then undoubtedly he will too


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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby I am Spartacus » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:03 am

MTFCMusings wrote:



Why doesn’t he end his tweets with ‘Knowing me, Knowing you’ and go the whole Alan Partridge?

Drunk on his own self importance
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Re: Macclesfield scorefred sponsored by GAME WILL GO AHEAD

Postby Stringy » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:12 am

This morning, I asked Drewe what performance indicators we measure apart from running. His response was something about intensity and passion and not needing KPIs when we were kids.

While I fully accept that working hard and being brave is half of the battle, if it is the case that we are not actually measuring anything, then I am concerned.

Surely, the manager agrees on a style/philosophy and then it is the job of the performance coach to underpin that philosophy. For example, if the manager decides we are going to play a 5-3-2 wing back formation, and as one aspect of our play we try to set the wings backs one on one with the opposition full backs, then the performance coach should devise a method of measuring the success of this approach.

He could measure a simple stat, such as:

(1) The number of times the wing back was one on one with the opposition full back;

Alternatively, two statistics could be combined to create a metric (2) i.e. number of dribbles against opposition full backs vs crosses completed.

If this measuring highlights that we are only successful a small percentage of the time, then we can work on that area. It can also support individual players and units of the team in performing their roles adequately. Mellis, for example, could be measured on number of successful dribbles/passes, if it is his job to run through the lines and release the wing backs or strikers.

Again, I accept fully the argument that the only stat the matters is the score, but if we want to become a better team then we should be deliberately measuring different aspects of our play and trying to improve those/maintain immaculate standards each week.

If the manager has not set an agreed philosophy, and we are not measuring performance indicators, I suggest this explains a lot about what has happened on the pitch in the last couple of months.

Not just having a moan; maybe it would helpful for Dempster to undertake some kind of benchmarking exercise or if some short visits to other clubs were arranged for him to see what they are doing? I still can't tell what we are trying to do other than work hard and be brave.
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