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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:34 pm

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The One wrote:Tick tock. The fans deserve to know the clubs aspirations in light of our home form.


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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby BH_Stag » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:03 pm

On Carolyn’s Instagram this morning she has reaffirmed that our aim for this season is ‘PROMOTION!! We have one of the top budgets.

The 3rd time the promotion objective has been reaffirmed. Dempster needs to start closing the gap sharpish or the patience of the owners will wear thin. With being 7 points behind the playoffs and having played more games than 6th & 7th, realistically we can’t afford to drop any further behind the pack full stop.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby bigalstag » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:28 pm

Are you sure she didn't post. In her sleep.
She's definitely dreaming if she thinks Dempster is going to get promotion. If I were her, I would cut my expectation down to safety.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Birminghamstag10 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:44 pm

BH_Stag wrote:On Carolyn’s Instagram this morning she has reaffirmed that our aim for this season is ‘PROMOTION!! We have one of the top budgets.

The 3rd time the promotion objective has been reaffirmed. Dempster needs to start closing the gap sharpish or the patience of the owners will wear thin. With being 7 points behind the playoffs and having played more games than 6th & 7th, realistically we can’t afford to drop any further behind the pack full stop.


On the day the club launch half season tickets?? Funny that....

I think regardless of what the Board say publicly in terms of our ambition, even if it is the reality they're never going to publicly come out and say that "JD is part of a longer term plan and we're happy to accept this season is one for consolidation, learning, building, etc. and if we do get promotion, massive bonus". It's the balance of keeping the momentum / enthusiasm whilst keeping to a strategy they obviously feel is the direction to go in.

When appointing JD for this season, did the Board truly believe that after coming close in previous years with managers who've track records of promotions, that a complete rookie could do what they couldn't? I'm going to credit them by believing they genuinely did not think that, and that they're trying to do something different, something more medium term.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby yorkshire stag » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:52 pm

why bloody keep mentioning the word promotion then ?

we don’t come ta mill because we enjoy it, it’s our cross to bear & for most it’s a lifetime pilgrimage, don’t stop us moaning & voicing our opinions

just when you give a stags fan hope it’s a feeling we don’t get very often
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Birminghamstag10 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:09 pm

Yeah but what we expect in terms of transparency is not probably the best move in terms of them running a business. To those who go to games because its the cross to bear thats fine but they are really only a third of what the Board want attending games.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Sweden Stag » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:58 pm

TBH, we have more than extremely unlucky with injuries and suspensions this season so far. As a result of that, only Conrad Logan has played in EVERY league Two game so far. Without the injuries and suspensions (and in a few cases, injury-time although we won in injury-time at Grimsby) we could have had at least a handful points more than we have now.

Also remember, at this stage in our 2012-13 FL return winning campaign we had only five points more than we have now after 17 games (and a negative goal-difference).

Dempster has been unlucky so far. FACTS.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Birminghamstag10 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:05 pm

I agree he has been unlucky. I remember driving up to a home game and we counted 10 first team players not available for selection that day.

That said, I still think the Board are happy to give this 'project Rookie' the time it will always need, despite what they say publicly and in the media around promotion.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby arsene wengers coat » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:59 pm

Could this performance be the one that sees him gone Sounds atrocious.

Darlington beating Walsall so DC might be available very soon.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby yorkstag » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:11 pm

Why would we want a manager sacked by Walsall?
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Conker » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:32 pm

That’s something a kid would say, don’t want him because he’s been sacked elsewhere. Most managers have a troubled spell, get a grip.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:35 pm

Sweden Stag wrote:TBH, we have more than extremely unlucky with injuries and suspensions this season so far. As a result of that, only Conrad Logan has played in EVERY league Two game so far. Without the injuries and suspensions (and in a few cases, injury-time although we won in injury-time at Grimsby) we could have had at least a handful points more than we have now.

Also remember, at this stage in our 2012-13 FL return winning campaign we had only five points more than we have now after 17 games (and a negative goal-difference).

Dempster has been unlucky so far. FACTS.

Having injuries shouldn’t make you a negative manager, which he is. FACT. Last week he b played to Colchester’s strengths, not ours. FACT. He simply isn’t good enough. FACT.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:54 pm

Conker wrote:That’s something a kid would say, don’t want him because he’s been sacked elsewhere. Most managers have a troubled spell, get a grip.


Is Dempster having a "troubled spell"? should we keep him?
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby The One » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:08 pm

Back to the traing ground Monday to sort it .......yawn
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:10 pm

arsene wengers coat wrote:Could this performance be the one that sees him gone Sounds atrocious.

Darlington beating Walsall so DC might be available very soon.

Why on earth would we want to appoint a manager who is performing worse than our own ?At least we managed (just) to beat a side in a league below. DC couldn't even manage a win against a side two leagues below?

I would begin to question JR and the boards sanity if they even considered appointing DC. He may be " one of our own " but that has proved to be a false credential several times in the past.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Random Hero » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:10 pm

Goodbye John
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:12 pm

Conker wrote:That’s something a kid would say, don’t want him because he’s been sacked elsewhere. Most managers have a troubled spell, get a grip.

Trouble spell !!!!!!! He's having a nightmare.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Stockportstag » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 pm

He's had a problem since he became manager.
We have gone backwards in these 3 months. Sorry, but I am on the "Get Rid" side.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby NG17_stag » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:20 pm

Dempster turning around to the crowd with his arms out asking why we’re booing. Drew Broughton walking off shaking his head because a few were booing. Nobody likes criticism but why on earth are they so oblivious to it? They genuinely don’t understand why. We’re going backwards, which is astonishing to say how bad we’ve started.

I’ve got a slight feeling Carolyn’s going to take action very soon.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Cleveland_Stag » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:23 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
arsene wengers coat wrote:Could this performance be the one that sees him gone Sounds atrocious.

Darlington beating Walsall so DC might be available very soon.

Why on earth would we want to appoint a manager who is performing worse than our own ?At least we managed (just) to beat a side in a league below. DC couldn't even manage a win against a side two leagues below?

I would begin to question JR and the boards sanity if they even considered appointing DC. He may be " one of our own " but that has proved to be a false credential several times in the past.


Clarke has several promotions on his CV though. Plus the squad he is working with at Walsall is nowhere near as good as ours, and neither’s their budget.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:27 pm

Birminghamstag10 wrote:
BH_Stag wrote:On Carolyn’s Instagram this morning she has reaffirmed that our aim for this season is ‘PROMOTION!! We have one of the top budgets.

The 3rd time the promotion objective has been reaffirmed. Dempster needs to start closing the gap sharpish or the patience of the owners will wear thin. With being 7 points behind the playoffs and having played more games than 6th & 7th, realistically we can’t afford to drop any further behind the pack full stop.


On the day the club launch half season tickets?? Funny that....

I think regardless of what the Board say publicly in terms of our ambition, even if it is the reality they're never going to publicly come out and say that "JD is part of a longer term plan and we're happy to accept this season is one for consolidation, learning, building, etc. and if we do get promotion, massive bonus". It's the balance of keeping the momentum / enthusiasm whilst keeping to a strategy they obviously feel is the direction to go in.

When appointing JD for this season, did the Board truly believe that after coming close in previous years with managers who've track records of promotions, that a complete rookie could do what they couldn't? I'm going to credit them by believing they genuinely did not think that, and that they're trying to do something different, something more medium term.


I don’t know why anyone keeps talking about budgets as if that gives us a right to a promotion place. You don’t (automatically) get any points for how much you pay your players
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:31 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:
Birminghamstag10 wrote:
BH_Stag wrote:On Carolyn’s Instagram this morning she has reaffirmed that our aim for this season is ‘PROMOTION!! We have one of the top budgets.

The 3rd time the promotion objective has been reaffirmed. Dempster needs to start closing the gap sharpish or the patience of the owners will wear thin. With being 7 points behind the playoffs and having played more games than 6th & 7th, realistically we can’t afford to drop any further behind the pack full stop.


On the day the club launch half season tickets?? Funny that....

I think regardless of what the Board say publicly in terms of our ambition, even if it is the reality they're never going to publicly come out and say that "JD is part of a longer term plan and we're happy to accept this season is one for consolidation, learning, building, etc. and if we do get promotion, massive bonus". It's the balance of keeping the momentum / enthusiasm whilst keeping to a strategy they obviously feel is the direction to go in.

When appointing JD for this season, did the Board truly believe that after coming close in previous years with managers who've track records of promotions, that a complete rookie could do what they couldn't? I'm going to credit them by believing they genuinely did not think that, and that they're trying to do something different, something more medium term.


I don’t know why anyone keeps talking about budgets as if that gives us a right to a promotion place. You don’t (automatically) get any points for how much you pay your players


Don’t knock the Stagsnet budget anoraks.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Vice President » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:33 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:
Birminghamstag10 wrote:
BH_Stag wrote:On Carolyn’s Instagram this morning she has reaffirmed that our aim for this season is ‘PROMOTION!! We have one of the top budgets.

The 3rd time the promotion objective has been reaffirmed. Dempster needs to start closing the gap sharpish or the patience of the owners will wear thin. With being 7 points behind the playoffs and having played more games than 6th & 7th, realistically we can’t afford to drop any further behind the pack full stop.


On the day the club launch half season tickets?? Funny that....

I think regardless of what the Board say publicly in terms of our ambition, even if it is the reality they're never going to publicly come out and say that "JD is part of a longer term plan and we're happy to accept this season is one for consolidation, learning, building, etc. and if we do get promotion, massive bonus". It's the balance of keeping the momentum / enthusiasm whilst keeping to a strategy they obviously feel is the direction to go in.

When appointing JD for this season, did the Board truly believe that after coming close in previous years with managers who've track records of promotions, that a complete rookie could do what they couldn't? I'm going to credit them by believing they genuinely did not think that, and that they're trying to do something different, something more medium term.


I don’t know why anyone keeps talking about budgets as if that gives us a right to a promotion place. You don’t (automatically) get any points for how much you pay your players


I agree - and I have been saying for 2 seasons now that our squad is not as good as they have been hyped up to be. That is why we didn't get promoted over the last 2 seasons and that is why we are currently in the bottom half of the league. Of course a rookie manager is making it even worse - but it's more than just that - so an even stronger case for needing a manager who can get players to punch above their weight.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Cleveland_Stag » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:34 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:
Birminghamstag10 wrote:
BH_Stag wrote:On Carolyn’s Instagram this morning she has reaffirmed that our aim for this season is ‘PROMOTION!! We have one of the top budgets.

The 3rd time the promotion objective has been reaffirmed. Dempster needs to start closing the gap sharpish or the patience of the owners will wear thin. With being 7 points behind the playoffs and having played more games than 6th & 7th, realistically we can’t afford to drop any further behind the pack full stop.


On the day the club launch half season tickets?? Funny that....

I think regardless of what the Board say publicly in terms of our ambition, even if it is the reality they're never going to publicly come out and say that "JD is part of a longer term plan and we're happy to accept this season is one for consolidation, learning, building, etc. and if we do get promotion, massive bonus". It's the balance of keeping the momentum / enthusiasm whilst keeping to a strategy they obviously feel is the direction to go in.

When appointing JD for this season, did the Board truly believe that after coming close in previous years with managers who've track records of promotions, that a complete rookie could do what they couldn't? I'm going to credit them by believing they genuinely did not think that, and that they're trying to do something different, something more medium term.


I don’t know why anyone keeps talking about budgets as if that gives us a right to a promotion place. You don’t (automatically) get any points for how much you pay your players


Stop being daft. Having a top 3 budget obviously means that we should be competing at the top end of the table. Ya know, Radford pays top money to try and get top results.
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Re: Has he gone yet ?

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:34 pm

Cleveland_Stag wrote:
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arsene wengers coat wrote:Could this performance be the one that sees him gone Sounds atrocious.

Darlington beating Walsall so DC might be available very soon.

Why on earth would we want to appoint a manager who is performing worse than our own ?At least we managed (just) to beat a side in a league below. DC couldn't even manage a win against a side two leagues below?

I would begin to question JR and the boards sanity if they even considered appointing DC. He may be " one of our own " but that has proved to be a false credential several times in the past.


Clarke has several promotions on his CV though. Plus the squad he is working with at Walsall is nowhere near as good as ours, and neither’s their budget.
Even accepting that, (although I'm not sure your right ). Today they were outplayed by a Conference North side, who would have won except for two errors by the Darlo keeper. I'm sure his squad today was better than the Darlo one.

You are correct he has had promotions but he has also had relegations

I think it would be too much of a risk for JR and the board to appoint DC as things stand at the moment.
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