Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 / Updated to AVOID 24th ?

[adamstag]

However, this side is more likely to get relegated than m.

[NorthLondonStag]

Relegated team will probably get points in the low
40s, possibly below 40.

[eggy]

So going off the assumption 46 points would be enough to avoid 24th (as it has been for 8 of the past 10 seasons, and indeed often would be enough for 22nd or better), we need 25 points from 27 games (0.93ppg), i.e. ...

W 8 D 1 L 18
W 7 D 4 L 16
W 6 D 7 L 14
W 5 D 10 L 12
W 4 D 13 L 10
W 3 D 16 L 8
W 2 D 19 L 6
W 1 D 22 L 4
W 0 D 25 L 2

[KirkbyStag2]

51 points is far too high as explained several times previously, by me and others. You are using 23rd place when you should be using 24th.

Don’t get hung up on the 51 points, it’s just a ball park figure and with only one relegation place I agree it is a bit high, it shows what a terrible season we’re having when we’re discussing how many points we need to stay up!!!!

That said, remember last season when you and a few others were saying 81 points was too low to finish in the Top 3, and it should be 83 / 84 points, then 2nd & 3rd place both gained automatic promotion with 79 points

[Martin Shaw]

51 points is far too high as explained several times previously, by me and others. You are using 23rd place when you should be using 24th.

Don’t get hung up on the 51 points, it’s just a ball park figure and with only one relegation place I agree it is a bit high, it shows what a terrible season we’re having when we’re discussing how many points we need to stay up!!!!

That said, remember last season when you and a few others were saying 81 points was too low to finish in the Top 3, and it should be 83 / 84 points, then 2nd & 3rd place both gained automatic promotion with 79 points

no argument that it's a terrible season when we are two points above 22nd place after 19 games. But you worked out your points total based on the 23rd place achieved by Bristol Rovers forgetting that only 24th goes down. Continuing the error isn't helpful, especially when I've seen others on facebook today who didn't realise that only one place is relegated.

[KirkbyStag2]

51 points is far too high as explained several times previously, by me and others. You are using 23rd place when you should be using 24th.

Don’t get hung up on the 51 points, it’s just a ball park figure and with only one relegation place I agree it is a bit high, it shows what a terrible season we’re having when we’re discussing how many points we need to stay up!!!!

That said, remember last season when you and a few others were saying 81 points was too low to finish in the Top 3, and it should be 83 / 84 points, then 2nd & 3rd place both gained automatic promotion with 79 points

no argument that it's a terrible season when we are two points above 22nd place after 19 games. But you worked out your points total based on the 23rd place achieved by Bristol Rovers forgetting that only 24th goes down. Continuing the error isn't helpful, especially when I've seen others on facebook today who didn't realise that only one place is relegated.

There’s no error Martin, I purposely chose to beat 50 points, fully in the knowledge that Bristol Rovers were relegated in 23rd place and only 24th is relegated this season.

Whilst unlikely, it’s mathematically possible to be relegated with more than 51 points.

It’s just a ball park figure.

[Martin Shaw]

51 points is far too high as explained several times previously, by me and others. You are using 23rd place when you should be using 24th.

Don’t get hung up on the 51 points, it’s just a ball park figure and with only one relegation place I agree it is a bit high, it shows what a terrible season we’re having when we’re discussing how many points we need to stay up!!!!

That said, remember last season when you and a few others were saying 81 points was too low to finish in the Top 3, and it should be 83 / 84 points, then 2nd & 3rd place both gained automatic promotion with 79 points

no argument that it's a terrible season when we are two points above 22nd place after 19 games. But you worked out your points total based on the 23rd place achieved by Bristol Rovers forgetting that only 24th goes down. Continuing the error isn't helpful, especially when I've seen others on facebook today who didn't realise that only one place is relegated.

There’s no error Martin, I purposely chose to beat 50 points, fully in the knowledge that Bristol Rovers were relegated in 23rd place and only 24th is relegated this season.

Whilst unlikely, it’s mathematically possible to be relegated with more than 51 points.

It’s just a ball park figure.

However you look at it Kirkby it's poor statistics. You worked out your ball park figure based on 23rd place. Now you realise you should have used 24th place, instead of re-working your ball-park figure, you prefer to stubbornly stick with your figure. So, it's a ball-park figure based on the wrong assumption.

[KirkbyStag2]

51 points is far too high as explained several times previously, by me and others. You are using 23rd place when you should be using 24th.

Don’t get hung up on the 51 points, it’s just a ball park figure and with only one relegation place I agree it is a bit high, it shows what a terrible season we’re having when we’re discussing how many points we need to stay up!!!!

That said, remember last season when you and a few others were saying 81 points was too low to finish in the Top 3, and it should be 83 / 84 points, then 2nd & 3rd place both gained automatic promotion with 79 points

no argument that it's a terrible season when we are two points above 22nd place after 19 games. But you worked out your points total based on the 23rd place achieved by Bristol Rovers forgetting that only 24th goes down. Continuing the error isn't helpful, especially when I've seen others on facebook today who didn't realise that only one place is relegated.

There’s no error Martin, I purposely chose to beat 50 points, fully in the knowledge that Bristol Rovers were relegated in 23rd place and only 24th is relegated this season.

Whilst unlikely, it’s mathematically possible to be relegated with more than 51 points.

It’s just a ball park figure.

However you look at it Kirkby it's poor statistics. You worked out your ball park figure based on 23rd place. Now you realise you should have used 24th place, instead of re-working your ball-park figure, you prefer to stubbornly stick with your figure. So, it's a ball-park figure based on the wrong assumption.

You’re overthinking it Martin, it’s just a ball park figure, I’ll be relieved when Stags are on 51 points, not any lower.

[The One]

But his figures were right last season when we were on a roll. Age old adage lies damn lies and statistics.

Look at election polls in sun and mirror miles apart. Wonder why ?

[tuopolfpilf]

After 19 games and 21 points, were currently on course for 51 points

[Bros]

If Macclesfield get thrown out then we can presumably breathe easy as we slowly drift down the league

[Beano]

What a sad state of affairs when we’re having to discuss a points target needed to maintain our league status.

[Foresttownstag]

If Macclesfield get thrown out then we can presumably breathe easy as we slowly drift down the league

Will we lose the massive point we got at Moss Rose?

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

If Macclesfield get thrown out then we can presumably breathe easy as we slowly drift down the league

Will we lose the massive point we got at Moss Rose?

I would expect to lose the point but so will all the other teams that have taken points off them. We could actually climb the table and reduce the gap to the playoffs.

What a funny season if there is no relegation!. It may mean that teams won't buy in January so a few better players may be available. That said the time it takes the EFL to take action, Mac should be gone by about next October.

[PRL13]

It would need a miracle!

[Amberheart]

It would need a miracle!

To avoid 24th ?

[Billy the fish]

Just looking on the home and away tables , we currently sit 3rd bottom in the home table scored 15 conceded 16.

Away table we currently sit 7th scored 10 conceded 11 .

Relegation form at home and play offs away .

[spanishstag]

If Macclesfield get thrown out then we can presumably breathe easy as we slowly drift down the league

Will we lose the massive point we got at Moss Rose?

Bradford city only got a point at macc

[Vice President]

If Macclesfield get thrown out then we can presumably breathe easy as we slowly drift down the league

Will we lose the massive point we got at Moss Rose?

If Macclesfield are thrown out of the league, it won't make any difference.*

(*Assumption = If Macclesfield are thrown out of the league there will be no teams relegated from league 2).

[KirkbyStag2]

Current Table
PLD..W...D...L...PTS...PPG
20....5...6...9....21....1.05

Required for 51 Points
PLD..W...D.....L...PTS...PPG
26...10...0....16...30...1.15
26....9....3....14...30...1.15
26....8....6....12...30...1.15
26....7....9....10...30...1.15
26....6...12....8....30...1.15
26....5...15....6....30...1.15

Stags current PPG of 1.05 over a season would see us finish with 48 points

18 points from TOP

6 points from BOTTOM

[london amber stag]

How we have fallen from grace in such a short space of time.

[KirkbyStag2]

How we have fallen from grace in such a short space of time.

The downward spiral started on 9th February, losing a Newport 1-0, followed by losing at Notts Clownty 1-0

Prior to 9th Feb, Stags had lost only 3 out of 35 league games

Since 9th Feb, Stags have lost 16 out of 35 League games

[tiptop]

How we have fallen from grace in such a short space of time.

The downward spiral started on 9th February, losing a Newport 1-0, followed by losing at Notts Clownty 1-0

Prior to 9th Feb, Stags had lost only 3 out of 35 league games

Since 9th Feb, Stags have lost 16 out of 35 League games

So basically we have overpaid prima dollar players, that are happy taking a big fat pay check for doing absolutely f/all,and not giving a shiiit about mtfc...

[Vice President]

Forget promotion this season. Relegation is now a serious concern. I hope the Board don't leave it too late to make the necessary changes - and make the right choice this time.

[bellwhiff]

Forget promotion this season. Relegation is now a serious concern. I hope the Board don't leave it too late to make the necessary changes - and make the right choice this time.

Yep.