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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby MTFCMusings » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:46 pm

Not that I've seen.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby Sandy Pate Best Stag » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:21 pm

In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:25 pm

Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby spanishstag » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:59 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


You mean he knows more than most whats happening unlike you
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby Uncle » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:06 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:
Uncle wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:
Uncle wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:The question is will John Lomas or Jake Garner have the balls to ask any questions?


Questions about what? Matters involving a Police investigation? I assume the only people asking any questions would be Detectives or Solicitors.


Well for the club to acknowledge that something has happened is the first thing, whether investigations are ongoing or not it doesn't change the fact that they were allegedly arrested and have allegedly been suspended. It would seem the obvious thing to do given it's all over social media.

Silly me. I thought John Lomas worked for the CHAD.


What has that got to do with anything?

Why do I keep getting involved???
Read the posts. You asked if John Lomas had the balls to ask any questions. You then responded to my reply by saying the club should acknowledge that something happened. John Lomas doesn't work for the club, Police or a Solicitors firm. He's a newspaper Sports jounalist. That's what his profession has do do with anything.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:34 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


He’s not too close to the club. He’s doing a semi-official (or potentially official) commentary where, at this stage, it’s not appropriate for him to comment. He handled it in an appropriate way.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:48 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


He’s not too close to the club. He’s doing a semi-official (or potentially official) commentary where, at this stage, it’s not appropriate for him to comment. He handled it in an appropriate way.


Rubbish. Two players were arrested. They’ve apparently been suspended. You think that’s not newsworthy or even likely to be commented upon ? Is there a law of Omertà?
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:50 pm

spanishstag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


You mean he knows more than most whats happening unlike you


What’s that got to do with anything ? Have you been on the cerveza?

Of course he knows more. Why isn’t he commenting on it? Isn’t that what’s commentators do ?
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:56 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
spanishstag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


You mean he knows more than most whats happening unlike you


What’s that got to do with anything ? Have you been on the cerveza?

Of course he knows more. Why isn’t he commenting on it? Isn’t that what’s commentators do ?


Given the choice:

Martin’s dedication, or
Bellwhiff’s snide ?

Wonder what would get more votes?
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby Martin Shaw » Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:59 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


He’s not too close to the club. He’s doing a semi-official (or potentially official) commentary where, at this stage, it’s not appropriate for him to comment. He handled it in an appropriate way.


Rubbish. Two players were arrested. They’ve apparently been suspended. You think that’s not newsworthy or even likely to be commented upon ? Is there a law of Omertà?

The club isn't in a position to comment on anything at this stage.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby BELSE » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:32 pm

not having a go at you Martin but some one at the match spoke to us and said it was bad news and JR and CR and the later not
happy but i do think the the club will say what is going to do as one as done is ban.And it was johns brother-in -law. :coys: :coys:
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby Parkinsons Perm » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:41 pm

BELSE wrote:not having a go at you Martin but some one at the match spoke to us and said it was bad news and JR and CR and the later not
happy but i do think the the club will say what is going to do as one as done is ban.And it was johns brother-in -law. :coys: :coys:


Eh????
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby Uncle » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:52 pm

BELSE wrote:not having a go at you Martin but some one at the match spoke to us and said it was bad news and JR and CR and the later not
happy but i do think the the club will say what is going to do as one as done is ban.And it was johns brother-in -law. :coys: :coys:


When John's brother in law said it, was it more comprehensible than what you've written.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:15 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


He’s not too close to the club. He’s doing a semi-official (or potentially official) commentary where, at this stage, it’s not appropriate for him to comment. He handled it in an appropriate way.


Rubbish. Two players were arrested. They’ve apparently been suspended. You think that’s not newsworthy or even likely to be commented upon ? Is there a law of Omertà?


1. The police haven’t named anyone who has been arrested, as far as I am aware.

2. Speculation is therefore inappropriate.

3. Martin is there to comment on a football game on an open subscriber basis. He’s not there to report arrests, based on speculation, or to state the club’s position on matters such as this.

4. It would not be helpful to anyone for Martin or Dean to engage in what may be Ill informed speculation on legal and potentially criminal matters.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby yorkshire stag » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:16 pm

Uncle wrote:
BELSE wrote:not having a go at you Martin but some one at the match spoke to us and said it was bad news and JR and CR and the later not
happy but i do think the the club will say what is going to do as one as done is ban.And it was johns brother-in -law. :coys: :coys:


When John's brother in law said it, was it more comprehensible than what you've written.


glad it’s not just me :lol:

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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:19 pm

EdwinstoweStag wrote:
Given the choice:

Martin’s dedication, or
Bellwhiff’s snide ?

Wonder what would get more votes?


You are such a toad.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby NorthLondonStag » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:25 pm

Bellwhiff, earlier on you were saying we had to wait for evidence before denouncing the alleged culprits (as it happens I agree with you). You were very keen on ‘due process’ running its course.

Now you seem to be saying that Martin should have named them on a live commentary feed.

You might appreciate why I am struggling to reconcile these two approaches. Perhaps you could explain?
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby Jimstag » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:37 pm

NorthLondonStag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
NorthLondonStag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


He’s not too close to the club. He’s doing a semi-official (or potentially official) commentary where, at this stage, it’s not appropriate for him to comment. He handled it in an appropriate way.


Rubbish. Two players were arrested. They’ve apparently been suspended. You think that’s not newsworthy or even likely to be commented upon ? Is there a law of Omertà?


1. The police haven’t named anyone who has been arrested, as far as I am aware.

2. Speculation is therefore inappropriate.

3. Martin is there to comment on a football game on an open subscriber basis. He’s not there to report arrests, based on speculation, or to state the club’s position on matters such as this.

4. It would not be helpful to anyone for Martin or Dean to engage in what may be Ill informed speculation on legal and potentially criminal matters.


You’ve got it right there with “ill informed speculation”, there’s very little that can be said officially until certain process has been followed and facts are established over speculation.

I’m sure both the club and police will comment if appropriate once that has been done.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby spanishstag » Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:15 am

bellwhiff wrote:
spanishstag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


You mean he knows more than most whats happening unlike you


What’s that got to do with anything ? Have you been on the cerveza?

Of course he knows more. Why isn’t he commenting on it? Isn’t that what’s commentators do ?


Well sometimes its not appropriate to comment ,but as every one on here knows ,you dont seem to get that :o
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby yorkshire stag » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:46 am

spanishstag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
spanishstag wrote:
bellwhiff wrote:
Sandy Pate Best Stag wrote:In his pre match commentary Martin ran through the teams and stated why other players weren't available. He said Mellis was suspended and that Donohue was unavailable for selection.

Obviously Martin is not a part of the official club set up but it appears that may be the official line.

Martin is too close to the club.


You mean he knows more than most whats happening unlike you


What’s that got to do with anything ? Have you been on the cerveza?

Of course he knows more. Why isn’t he commenting on it? Isn’t that what’s commentators do ?


Well sometimes its not appropriate to comment ,but as every one on here knows ,you dont seem to get that :o



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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby bellwhiff » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:06 am

NorthLondonStag wrote:Bellwhiff, earlier on you were saying we had to wait for evidence before denouncing the alleged culprits (as it happens I agree with you). You were very keen on ‘due process’ running its course.

Now you seem to be saying that Martin should have named them on a live commentary feed.

You might appreciate why I am struggling to reconcile these two approaches. Perhaps you could explain?

I’m not advocating that. I’m advocating that the subject should be not off the table. If players have been suspended then that’s a newsworthy item. I didn’t realise that the police hadn’t released the names of the arrested individuals to be honest
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby Son Of Sherwood » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:29 am

In terms of "local reporting", this is all I can find and this is buried in the sub pages of the chad website...

Two arrests and man taken to hospital after assault in Mansfield town centre

By Liam Norcliffe: Email Published: 10:25 Friday 16 August 2019


Two men have been arrested on suspicion of assault after an incident in Mansfield town centre in the early hours of this morning.

Officers from Nottinghamshire Police were called just after 4am today to reports of an incident in the town centre.

A 25-year-old man and a 28-year-old man were arrested on suspicion of assault in connection with the incident, which took place on Leeming Street..

A man has been taken to hospital with injuries which are not believed to be life-altering or life-threatening. Another man received minor injuries, Nottinghamshire Police said.

If you saw what happened, call Nottinghamshire Police on 101, quoting incident number 73 of 16 August 2019.
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby tibby » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:37 am

Get rid and get 2 other scrap heap footballers in, simple
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:45 am

lifestags wrote:Just happens to be more recent since we put 2 bad apples together with Dion.

It's a lack of respect for the manger to me. Same with the the sending offs they aren't worried about the managers opinion.


Who are the two "bad apples" Dan?
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Re: Incident on Leeming Street

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:07 am

Here’s an idea:

Let’s just let the authorities and the club do what is appropriate.
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