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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:46 pm



Wonder if Coughlan will be interested.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:51 pm

I still disagree Sam. You do not need Heads of Recruitment/Directors of Football at League 2 clubs. They are expensive additional staff for a League 2 club and it just ends up being jobs for the boys and money for old rope. You just need a couple of good scouts who report to someone at the club (could be an admin person or analyst) who logs and records all the relevant information. The manager/assistant manager can then liaise with the scouts if he needs more info.

The important bit is to log and record all the info so it can still be used by the club and passed on to the next manager so you are not starting all over again.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:56 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:I still disagree Sam. You do not need Heads of Recruitment/Directors of Football at League 2 clubs. They are expensive additional staff for a League 2 club and it just ends up being jobs for the boys and money for old rope. You just need a couple of good scouts who report to someone at the club (could be an admin person or analyst) who logs and records all the relevant information. The manager/assistant manager can then liaise with the scouts if he needs more info.

The important bit is to log and record all the info so it can still be used by the club and passed on to the next manager so you are not starting all over again.


As you know I disagree. We need a clear recruitment strategy. Especially if as Hymas says the goal is to become self sufficient. You need to sign players aged 24 and under so that they have a sell on value, or the majority should be.

Instead, we end up with expensive, ageing crocks (Mirfin, Diamond, Davies) or players on big wages who we can't move on (Anderson, Atkinson, Butcher, Mellis, Spencer)
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:00 pm

Tom Nichols' career seems to have stalled since leaving Exeter City for Peterborough and Bristol Rovers. General feedback from fans seems to be that he works hard but does not score.

Exeter City 64(34) 32 league goals
Peterborough 42(8) 11 league goals
Bristol Rovers 56(38) 4 league goals

I'd leave strikers unless a big mobile striker becomes available. Concentrate on midfield players and a centre half/leader.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:06 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:As you know I disagree. We need a clear recruitment strategy. Especially if as Hymas says the goal is to become self sufficient. You need to sign players aged 24 and under so that they have a sell on value, or the majority should be.

Instead, we end up with expensive, ageing crocks (Mirfin, Diamond, Davies) or players on big wages who we can't move on (Anderson, Atkinson, Butcher, Mellis, Spencer)


Steve Evans signed 7 of those 8 players :lol:

I still think you can have a clear recruitment strategy without having expensive Directors of Football. It's not rocket science to set one up.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:13 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:As you know I disagree. We need a clear recruitment strategy. Especially if as Hymas says the goal is to become self sufficient. You need to sign players aged 24 and under so that they have a sell on value, or the majority should be.

Instead, we end up with expensive, ageing crocks (Mirfin, Diamond, Davies) or players on big wages who we can't move on (Anderson, Atkinson, Butcher, Mellis, Spencer)


Steve Evans signed 7 of those 8 players :lol:

I still think you can have a clear recruitment strategy without having expensive Directors of Football. It's not rocket science to set one up.


It doesn't matter who signed them, it's that they shouldn't have been allowed to sign them. Not all of them anyway.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby arsene wengers coat » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:32 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Tom Nichols' career seems to have stalled since leaving Exeter City for Peterborough and Bristol Rovers. General feedback from fans seems to be that he works hard but does not score.

Exeter City 64(34) 32 league goals
Peterborough 42(8) 11 league goals
Bristol Rovers 56(38) 4 league goals

I'd leave strikers unless a big mobile striker becomes available. Concentrate on midfield players and a centre half/leader.


If he improves us and fits the bill closer to how Cocker wants to play, then let's have him.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:33 pm

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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby James » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:04 pm

MTFCMusings wrote:

Wonder if Coughlan will be interested.


I seem to remember when Coughlan was linked with us, the Bristol Rovers fans were saying Nicholls was a favourite of his.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Cleveland_Stag » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:19 pm

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:Tom Nichols' career seems to have stalled since leaving Exeter City for Peterborough and Bristol Rovers. General feedback from fans seems to be that he works hard but does not score.

Exeter City 64(34) 32 league goals
Peterborough 42(8) 11 league goals
Bristol Rovers 56(38) 4 league goals

I'd leave strikers unless a big mobile striker becomes available. Concentrate on midfield players and a centre half/leader.


We don’t need two Danny Rose’s :lol:
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:38 pm

Bristol Rovers fans saying that Tom Nichols' link up play is very good and that he was a good foil for Jonson Clark Harris.

Northampton are looking at extending Paul Anderson's contract until the summer.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:56 pm

11 potential young loanees for Lincoln City from Lincolnshire Echo website. We obviously signed the wrong young player from West Ham. They might not fancy a relegation scrap in League 2 though. I like the sound of a 6 foot 4 George Hirst.

Conor Coventry - West Ham United, Midfielder (19), Irish
The highly-rated midfielder could be on his way to League One on loan soon, with the Imps one of several clubs linked with his services. The Ireland under-21 international, who was reportedly the subject of a bid from Celtic recently, has just signed a new long-term deal with the Hammers.

Joe Powell - West Ham United, Midfielder (21), English
Another Hammers youngster who has been linked with the Imps. After spending the second half of last season on loan at League Two Northampton Town, a move to League One would make sense. A talented left-footer who can also operate at left-back, Powell's West Ham contract expires in the summer so he could be looking for a permanent move elsewhere, not just a loan.

Largie Ramazani - Manchester United, Winger (18), Belgian
Described as a tricky two-footed winger, 5ft 4in Ramazani played against the Imps in the EFL Trophy earlier this season. He has graduated from United’s U18 to the U23s this season and was named in a much-changed squad for the Europa League tie against Astana, coming on for the final six minutes.

Dylan Levitt -Manchester United, Midfielder (19), Welsh
Described as classy midfielder who prefers to push forward into attacking positions and act as his team's main playmaker, Levitt played the whole game against Astana. He has even been compared to Paul Scholes. United academy chief Nicky Butt and Ryan Giggs are known to be big admirers of him.

D’Mani Mellor - Manchester United, Striker (19),
The Mancunian spent much of his U18 career playing out wide as Mason Greenwood, now a regular in the Red Devils’ first-team squad, played up front. He is now getting a chance through the middle and enjoyed an excellent start to the season for the U23s, with five goals in three games. Mellor made his first-team debut for the Reds against Astana in Europa League, playing the final 25 minutes.

Jamie Soule - West Bromwich Albion, Striker (19), English
Soule was reportedly being watched by German giants Borussia Dortmund last year before signing a new three-year deal with the Baggies. He has been a regular goalscorer at U18 level in the Premier League 2 (U23 level) in recent seasons.

Kane Wilson - West Bromwich Albion (on loan at Tranmere Rovers), Right Back (19)
Wilson has spent the first half of the season at Tranmere. His loan expires this month and it is unclear what the second half of the season holds for him. Wilson has also had loan spells at Walsall and Exeter. If not this month, he could be a potential target in the summer.

Jack Hendry - Celtic, Centre Back (24), Scottish
Appleton has already been linked with Hendry, with the Daily Record reporting that Lincoln and Blackpool are keen to take him on loan. Signed by former Hoops boss Brendan Rodgers from Dundee in 2018, the Scotland international has fallen down the pecking order under Neil Lennon and is looking for a fresh start.

Jake Taylor - Nottingham Forest (on loan at Port Vale), Midfielder (21), English
Taylor was picked up by Forest after being released by Manchester United. The energetic midfielder has spent the first half of the season in League Two with Vale, who are keen to sign him permanently. However, there is believed to be interest from other clubs. His current loan deal expires on January 18.

George Thomas - Leicester City, Midfielder and Striker (22), English
Thomas joined Leicester from Coventry for an undisclosed fee in 2017 on a three-year deal. A few months earlier he had scored the winning goal against Appleton’s Oxford United in the final of the EFL Trophy at Wembley. He spent last season in League One with Scunthorpe United, but couldn’t prevent the Iron being relegated. At 22, he needs first-team football and probably isn’t going to get it at the King Power Stadium.

George Hirst - Leicester City, Striker (20), English
The son of Sheffield Wednesday legend David, George shot to prominence at Hillsborough by scoring 40 goals in a single season for the Owls’ youth and development teams. However, when a new contract could not be agreed, he disappeared off the scene at Wednesday. He then joined Belgian side Leuven, then managed by former Leicester boss Nigel Pearson, a friend of George’s father. After Pearson was sacked, George joined Leicester and has been prolific in the Foxes’ U23 side. The 6ft 4in forward has scored in Leicester youngsters’ last three EFL Trophy ties.

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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby MTFCMusings » Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:33 pm

Hirst was going to Champ and L1 clubs on loan before he went off to Belgium so doubt he would drop to L2.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Captain Cunno » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:33 pm

I'd be amazed if GC hasn't enquired about Tom Nicholls...
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Amber Andy » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:03 pm

Captain Cunno wrote:I'd be amazed if GC hasn't enquired about Tom Nicholls...

Said to be a hard worker for the team. However, has a poor scoring record at Bristol Rovers.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby marker_mtfc95 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:28 am

Was immense for Exeter a few seasons back, would be a good signing for us.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby daddycool » Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:49 am

IF you were after a goal scorer you wouldn’t sign Nicholls
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Kernow » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:38 am

Right winger and creative midfielder please. OK for strikers.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Sedgwick » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:23 am

Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:As you know I disagree. We need a clear recruitment strategy. Especially if as Hymas says the goal is to become self sufficient. You need to sign players aged 24 and under so that they have a sell on value, or the majority should be.

Instead, we end up with expensive, ageing crocks (Mirfin, Diamond, Davies) or players on big wages who we can't move on (Anderson, Atkinson, Butcher, Mellis, Spencer)


Steve Evans signed 7 of those 8 players :lol:

I still think you can have a clear recruitment strategy without having expensive Directors of Football. It's not rocket science to set one up.


Which is why a director of football would be useful... no one on our board has achieved this. I don't think any of them have the knowledge to either.

Our club has no philosophy. No plan for anything on the pitch. It's all hotels, training grounds, new stands and the sandy pate, which is all fantastic but there's zero strategy on the pitch other than sack a manger sign a load of players, sack a manager, sign a load of players.

We need a proper scouting network to identify the best possible targets. It should be the clubs job to identify a way of playing, a set of players who could fit into this and then its the managers job to get the best out of them. And contracts should always be staggered so you can continually make slight changes rather than wholesale change like 90% of clubs that aren't successful.

Very interesting video somewhere about Liverpool and its brining them success without breaking the bank. Few other clubs following this too and doing well at all levels
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Sedgwick » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:25 am

Amber Andy wrote:
Captain Cunno wrote:I'd be amazed if GC hasn't enquired about Tom Nicholls...

Said to be a hard worker for the team. However, has a poor scoring record at Bristol Rovers.


Think it just shows league two is his level and theres nothing wrong with that. Look at Eion Doyle.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby James » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:47 am

Sedgwick wrote:
Tippy Tappy Football wrote:
MTFCMusings wrote:As you know I disagree. We need a clear recruitment strategy. Especially if as Hymas says the goal is to become self sufficient. You need to sign players aged 24 and under so that they have a sell on value, or the majority should be.

Instead, we end up with expensive, ageing crocks (Mirfin, Diamond, Davies) or players on big wages who we can't move on (Anderson, Atkinson, Butcher, Mellis, Spencer)


Steve Evans signed 7 of those 8 players :lol:

I still think you can have a clear recruitment strategy without having expensive Directors of Football. It's not rocket science to set one up.


Which is why a director of football would be useful... no one on our board has achieved this. I don't think any of them have the knowledge to either.

Our club has no philosophy. No plan for anything on the pitch. It's all hotels, training grounds, new stands and the sandy pate, which is all fantastic but there's zero strategy on the pitch other than sack a manger sign a load of players, sack a manager, sign a load of players.

We need a proper scouting network to identify the best possible targets. It should be the clubs job to identify a way of playing, a set of players who could fit into this and then its the managers job to get the best out of them. And contracts should always be staggered so you can continually make slight changes rather than wholesale change like 90% of clubs that aren't successful.

Very interesting video somewhere about Liverpool and its brining them success without breaking the bank. Few other clubs following this too and doing well at all levels


Better example would be teams like Brentford & Peterborough who have gained success by having proper scouting departments and an actual plan to stick by.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:28 pm

Billy Clarke has signed for Grimsby
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby kyle b » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:55 pm

Grimsby must have the oldest forward line in the world
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:43 pm

Transfers up to 9th January
Jevani Brown [Colchester - Forest Green] Loan
Josh March [Leamington - Forest Green] Undisclosed
Tyreeq Bakinson [Bristol City - Plymouth] Loan
Alfie May [Doncaster - Cheltenham] Undisclosed
Owen Evans [Wigan - Cheltenham] Loan
Anthony Grant [Shrewsbury - Swindon] Undisclosed
Joe Leesley [Harrogate - Stevenage] Loan
Carl Piergianni [Salford - Oldham] Loan
Anthony Glennon [Burnley - Grimsby] Loan
Billy Waters [Northampton - Newport] Loan

Jack Taylor [Barnet - Peterborough] £500,000
Reece Brown [Huddersfield - Peterborough] Loan
Alex Woodyard [Peterborough - Tranmere] Loan

Oldham are now up to 21 signings for the season.
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Re: Players Released, Transfers & Loans 2019-2020

Postby Spiritater » Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:05 pm

kyle b wrote:Grimsby must have the oldest forward line in the world

Don't need forwards when t'other team smash it in for you ;)
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