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Grimsby New Year's Day preview

Postby Sweden Stag » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:00 pm

When the Stags played Grimsby Town at home almost two months ago in a re-arranged fixture due to Stags international call-ups, the Mariners were close to the drop zone not scoring much. But since the hard-fought 2-1 Stags victory after being 1-0 down at half-time, the Mariners have been in good form, winning six out of their last eight as well as reaching the FA Cup third round. Meanwhile, the Stags are now sixteen League games unbeaten following the goal-less home draw against Swindon in the Stags’ last FL fixture of 2018.

But the Stags have travelled to Blundell Park before on a New Year’s Day in preview history. That was in 2011 midway through the Stags’ spell outside League Two while it was Grimsby’s first National League season out of six following relegation in 2010.

That game at Grimsby in 2011 belongs to the ones which have to be forgotten very quickly due to the fact that the Stags were routed to a 7-2 scoreline, the first time the Stags had had seven goals put against them since 1999, when Cambridge won at their headquarters to that scoreline. But just a few days before the disaster at Grimsby, the Stags travelled to Cambridge and by a 5-1 scoreline. These results summed up much of a Stags campaign which ended in a FA Trophy final defeat against Darlington at Wembley. The 7-2 defeat at Grimsby in 2011 is also the Stags’ heaviest-ever against the Mariners.

Last season’s home fixture ended up in a 4-1 rout during during a fixture which saw no less than three converted penalties, two for the Stags and the Grimsby consolation goal, while the return fixture at Grimsby on Boxing Day 2017 ended up in a deserved 1-1 draw against a Grimsby side, then around mid-table, but then slid very close to the drop-zone. And only a late-late rally with important points against relegation rivals saved the Mariners from being relegated for the second time.

This means that Grimsby now are in their third season back in the FL following promotion from the National League.

One Stags victory against the Mariners is a record-breaking one. Before the game at Mansfield on March 12, 2013, the Stags had recorded seven straight league (at that time BSP) victories. That record was broken thanks to a 2-0 scoreline.

And by the time of the Stags home fixture against Grimsby five years ago, the BSP was the tightest one at the top for several seasons. The reason then: no runaway leaders like Crawley and Stevenage in previous years, but five sides challenging for promotion and playoff places, three of them level on points. And one of those were the Stags after a tremendous run with eleven wins out of thirteen after the magnificent FA Cup third round display against Liverpool.

And before the introduction of the Premier League in 1992-93, Grimsby Town along with Coventry held the distinction of playing in all SIX divisions of the Football league (Division 1 (first time as early as in 1901-02) best position 5th in 1934-35, Division 2, Division 3 (S) (in 1920-21), Division 3 (N), Division 3 and Division 4). The Mariners, which indeed were one of the original members of the old division 2 when founded in 1892, are also one of the clubs which have swapped divisions most times during their league career, nearly thirty times in all, and it is also no wonder why Grimsby have faced more league clubs than any other team, more than 120 in fact, and in their final FL fixture before relegation in 2010 travelled to Burton Albion. Two seasons, ago the Mariners played Stevenage for the first time. And all the previous league fixtures between the Mariners and the Stags have taken place after World War II, but the away fixture in August 2004 was the first outside the old Division 3 (N) and the old Division 3, spanning over a period of nearly 40 years from 1951-52 to 1990-91.

Add to that, playing some 50 sides in the National League during Grimsby’s six-season stint outside the FL.

Fact is also, that Grimsby were relegated to the old fourth in the 1976-77 season, and were also so in the 1967-68 one when Peterborough were demoted. But that one was by the narrowest of margins. The Stags just about stayed up then due to a slighty superior goal-average than the Mariners. Had the Stags conceded ONE more goal at Bournemouth and Grimsby scored ONE more in the final game at home to Swindon that season, the roles had been reversed. They had been so if the three-point ruling had been in force then, as the Mariners won fourteen games then compared to twelve for the Stags. And in two of the Mariners’ latest promotion seasons to the old division 2 (in 1979-80 and 1990-91), the Stags were relegated. And the latter season, Grimsby were involved in a unique treble, as three teams were promoted together for the second season running, the other two being Cambridge and Southend, the trio being promoted from the old fourth to the old second in consecutive seasons, being the only time in league history this has happened!

And since the Playoff promotion final defeat against Cheltenham by the only goal of the game in 2005-06, Grimsby suffered some kind of a hang-over, finally ending with their FL exit four years later. Incidentally enough, Cheltenham returned to the FL (along with Grimsby) as National League Champions after an absence of one campaign.

The biggest Stags wins at Field Mill are two with a four-goal margin. The first was on February 6, 1954 when Kenneth Murray netted three times, Fox and Darwin one apiece in front of 6513 to complete a 5-1 rout. Thirteen years later, on March 28, 1967, 11735 pilgered to Field Mill. One of the players appearing for both sides, Stuart Brace, represented the Stags then and netted twice. Mitchinson hit the net once, and to add to Grimsby’s misery, they put through an own goal. At that time, the Stags still were in the second promotion place hunt for the current championship behind runaway winners QPR, while the Mariners were mid-table material. And on September 4, 1976, Terry Eccles hit a hat-trick, including one from the spot, in a 3-0 full-pointer at Field Mill.

The teams have also met once in the FA Cup. It was early on in Colin Treharne’s Stags career in goal. On November 4, 1961, a good crowd of 10127 watched the Stags go through to the second round thanks to a 3-2 victory at Field Mill courtesy of two Brian Hall strikes and one from Ken Wagstaff, latter later for many years representing a club on the other side of the Humber.

During the 2005-06 season, both sides were involved in famous League Cup giant-killings. While the Stags disposed of Southampton in the second round, Grimsby notched an even better achievement, this kayoeing a full-strength Tottenham side by the only goal of the game, the same result as at Field Mill against Southampton. John McDermott’s 700th game for the Mariners deservedly hit the headlines on September 20, 2005, with the Stags’ scalp as second best that night. The reward for Grimsby’s giant-killing was a bumper home game against Newcastle, a side that only just, thanks to Alan Shearer (who else?) managed to dump a brave Stags side out of the FA Cup at home on January 7, 2006, just a week before the Stags travelled to Grimsby that campaign and unluckily lost to a 1-2 scoreline thanks to a late Parkinson goal.

The Stags’ latest away victory at Grimsby was achieved a little more than 30 years ago, when the Stags won 3-2 during the 1987-88 Division Three campaign.

Some famous names have managed Grimsby over the years. To name but two: Bill Shankly and Lawrie McMenemy. And the one outfield player with the most league appearances, including some for the Stags, started his league career at Grimsby and played for them in the 0-3 defeat at Field Mill on September 4, 1976, when a Terry Eccles hat-trick including a penalty sealed the tie, is among the players appearing for both sides. The name: Tony Ford.

As a Grimsby player, Michael Boulding scored three goals in a 6-2 Division One demolition of Wimbledon on March 23, 2002, but as a Barnsley player, Boulding was on the losing side when the Mariners last hit six in a League home game, a 6-1 rout of the Tykes in a Division Two game on February 28, 2004. The late Keith Alexander as well as one recent Scunthorpe boss, Ian Baraclough, are the managers which as players represented both sides.

Played for both sides: James Alabi, Keith Alexander, Calvin Andrew, Craig Armstrong, Nathan Arnold, Ian Baraclough, Paul Bolland, Michael Boulding, Stuart Brace, Daryl Clare, Jamie Clarke, Chris Clements, Barry Conlon, Clifford Coupland, Craig Disley, Rob Duffy, Tony Ford, Ben Futcher, Scott Garner, Simon Grand, Martin Gritton, Edgar Hardy, Liam Hearn, Simon Heslop, Pat Hoban, Samuel Hodgson, Maxey Holmes, Ernest Jackson, Jake Kean, Mark Lever, Jim Lumby, Junior Mendes, Eddie Munnings, Tom Naylor, Don O’Riordan, Iffy Onoura, Ollie Palmer, Malcolm Partridge, Lee Peacock, Jason Pearcey, Jack Prior, Ricky Ravenhill, Ken Reeve, Mitch Rose, Mick Saxby, Gary Silk, Tyrone Thompson, John Walker, William Watkin, Albert Wilson, Curtis Woodhouse, Neil Woods, Adi Yussuf.

Played for Stags, later managed Grimsby: Bobby Roberts.
Played for Stags, managed both sides: Stuart Watkiss

Home games: P 25, W 14, D 6, L 5, GF 45, GA 24
Away games: P 24, W 5, D 6, L 13, GF 23, GA 46

Season Home Date Away Date

1951-52 2-2 1952-01-05 1-1 1951-09-08 Div 3 (N)
1952-53 1-1 1952-09-13 1-5 1953-01-24 Div 3 (N)
1953-54 5-1 1954-02-06 2-0 1953-09-19 Div 3 (N)
1954-55 3-0 1955-03-12 2-3 1954-10-23 Div 3 (N)
1955-56 0-2 1956-04-07 0-2 1955-11-26 Div 3 (N)
1959-60 3-2 1960-03-05 1-2 1959-10-17 Div 3
1964-65 2-2 1964-09-26 1-1 1965-02-06 Div 3
1965-66 2-1 1966-04-30 1-0 1966-04-09 Div 3
1966-67 4-0 1967-03-28 2-1 1967-03-24 Div 3
1967-68 1-1 1968-04-20 0-0 1967-11-25 Div 3
1975-76 1-0 1976-02-21 1-4 1975-11-15 Div 3
1976-77 3-0 1976-09-04 1-0 1977-02-12 Div 3
1979-80 0-0 1980-04-26 1-2 1979-12-08 Div 3
1987-88 1-0 1988-01-02 3-2 1987-09-12 Div 3
1990-91 1-1 1991-03-02 0-2 1990-12-01 Div 3
2004-05 2-0 2005-04-02 0-2 2004-08-28 League Two
2005-06 2-1 2006-02-14 1-2 2006-01-14 League Two
2006-07 1-2 2007-02-17 1-1 2006-08-18 League Two
2007-08 1-2 2008-03-22 0-1 2007-12-15 League Two
2010-11 0-2 2011-04-19 2-7 2011-01-01 BSP
2011-12 2-1 2011-10-08 0-0 2011-12-06 BSP
2012-13 2-0 2013-03-12 1-4 2012-08-27 BSP
2016-17 0-1 2016-09-24 0-3 2017-02-18 League Two
2017-18 4-1 2017-09-09 1-1 2017-12-26 League Two
2018-19 2-1 2018-11-06 (at Mansfield) League Two

Cup games:

1961-62 3-2 1961-11-04 (FA Cup 1st round at Field Mill)

2006-07 3-0 2006-10-31 (Johnstone's Paint Trophy, Northern Section, round 2 at Field Mill)

Should be a good game on New Year’s Day between two in-form sides. Come on Mansfield!

Details from various sources, mainly the history book, Rothmans Football yearbook and players who’s who on the history CD
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