Stagsnet report Notts County game

[Martin Shaw]

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[Bradders]

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Great report. If the shortlist for MOTM is down to Williams and Flint, it's Flint for me. Although Brunt should get a mention, also Akins (as you pointed out).

[lifestags]

Cargill man of match for me.

[Rob]

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Great report. If the shortlist for MOTM is down to Williams and Flint, it's Flint for me. Although Brunt should get a mention, also Akins (as you pointed out).

Brunt for me, he was exceptional. Williams had a good game but was caught out for pace a couple of times 1st half. Same for Cargill, was skinned a couple of times early on but overall, like Williams, had an excellent game.

[Bradders]

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Great report. If the shortlist for MOTM is down to Williams and Flint, it's Flint for me. Although Brunt should get a mention, also Akins (as you pointed out).

Brunt for me, he was exceptional. Williams had a good game but was caught out for pace a couple of times 1st half. Same for Cargill, was skinned a couple of times early on but overall, like Williams, had an excellent game.

Williams and Cargill were indeed caught out a couple of times early on, but found the solution quite quickly. A lesson in sophisticated defending.

[georgefostersbeard]

Thanks for this Martin. As ever, a great read.

[Conker]

Brunt had an easier time than Williams and Cargill but was still brilliant.

Brunt did a good job on Langstaff but he does goes missing against anyone half decent in L2 and lacks any physical presence, I think he will be found out in higher divisions - I reckon they should sell in the summer.

[georgefostersbeard]

I don't agree, he has stepped up all season and, to my mind, his issues have been over naive and silly mistakes which is slowly eradicating. He had been mentioned in the discussions for MotM a huge amount since October. He can be knocked off the ball but is learning to deal with that better the more he plays. He has already totally changed his technique for heading long balls since joining us which shows he can develop.
He has thrown himself in front of the ball blocking shots and is no shrinking violet.
Whether he is good enough for Leicester, I genuinely don't know but, to my mind, he is a step above Harbottle.

[Rob]

I think Conker was talking about Langstaff. Must admit I thought the same as you at first

[georgefostersbeard]

Oh god - sorry Conker
So with Langstaff it will be interesting to see if he makes it in the league in a, slightly different set up. Perfect playing off a larger strike partner

[Conker]

Yeah was on about Langstaff - they pretty much played with ten men against us, he was a waste of time.

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

I’ve also had my doubts about Langstaff being capable of stepping up a league or two. As mentioned he has little physical presence and is easily outmuscled. I suppose that may not be such a problem in higher leagues as the game isn’t as physical but centre halves will also be more mobile and be better readers of the game. Perhaps that’s why they haven’t had any serious large offers for him contrary to what you would expect for a striker with his conversion rate.

I suppose we won’t know until he moves or County are promoted.

[MTFCMusings]

He's a poacher. He's not going to create openings on his own. Put him in teams that create chances and he will score goals.

[wink68]

All the folk shouting for us to sign a 20 goal striker. County have a 30 goal man, but we stopped the ball getting to him and he wasn't prepared or able to get involved in the game. That's why Nigel doesn't play with a Langstaff, Cook or DJ type player. Each player has to pull their weight in a NC team.

[Bradders]

I’ve also had my doubts about Langstaff being capable of stepping up a league or two. As mentioned he has little physical presence and is easily outmuscled. I suppose that may not be such a problem in higher leagues as the game isn’t as physical but centre halves will also be more mobile and be better readers of the game. Perhaps that’s why they haven’t had any serious large offers for him contrary to what you would expect for a striker with his conversion rate.

I suppose we won’t know until he moves or County are promoted.

He's already moved up the leagues. There's no arguing with Langstaff's 20 goals and 5 assists this season; suggesting that his quiet spells against us are down to excellent defending rather than his substandard ability.

[Sandy Pate Best Stag]

I’ve also had my doubts about Langstaff being capable of stepping up a league or two. As mentioned he has little physical presence and is easily outmuscled. I suppose that may not be such a problem in higher leagues as the game isn’t as physical but centre halves will also be more mobile and be better readers of the game. Perhaps that’s why they haven’t had any serious large offers for him contrary to what you would expect for a striker with his conversion rate.

I suppose we won’t know until he moves or County are promoted.

He's already moved up the leagues. There's no arguing with Langstaff's 20 goals and 5 assists this season; suggesting that his quiet spells against us are down to excellent defending rather than his substandard ability.

Yes I agree with that but if he moves up the leagues again, our excellent defending will probably be the norm so what does he do then?. He is no doubt a very capable league 2 forward but l don’t think he will be anything special in league 1 and certainly not in the Championship. He was 27 years old the other day so hardly a promising young lad learning his trade. If he doesn’t move up this summer I personally don’t think he ever will with any huge success.

[ST4GS]

Why the different attendance to the Wrexham game which were both total sell outs. First 7k Home attendance since when ?

[Martin Shaw]

Why the different attendance to the Wrexham game which were both total sell outs. First 7k Home attendance since when ?

there were 55 more tickets sold for the Notts County game than the Wrexham game. That could have been something to do with a different number of disabled tickets, or carers, or such like. Also different matches might have different sterile areas or seats not sold for crowd management purposes. So a "sell out" for one match may not be the same number of seats sold as for another.

Whilst the total attendance is the number of tickets sold (and not the number actually inside the ground), the away attendance announced is the number passing through the turnstile. It is an unfortunate discrepancy (slightly irritating for a statistician like me!) which leads to difficulty when calculating the number of home fans. The home capacity is actually about 6950. The Notts County game wasn't a 7000 home attendance.

[Sneag]

Why the different attendance to the Wrexham game which were both total sell outs. First 7k Home attendance since when ?

there were 55 more tickets sold for the Notts County game than the Wrexham game. That could have been something to do with a different number of disabled tickets, or carers, or such like. Also different matches might have different sterile areas or seats not sold for crowd management purposes. So a "sell out" for one match may not be the same number of seats sold as for another.

Whilst the total attendance is the number of tickets sold (and not the number actually inside the ground), the away attendance announced is the number passing through the turnstile. It is an unfortunate discrepancy (slightly irritating for a statistician like me!) which leads to difficulty when calculating the number of home fans. The home capacity is actually about 6950. The Notts County game wasn't a 7000 home attendance.

The first 7,000 + home crowd will be the night we clinch promotion against FGR in April.

[Martin Shaw]

The first 7,000 + home crowd will be the night we clinch promotion against FGR in April.

could well be. Home capacity will be about 6950 + 577 in the North Stand

[Martin Shaw]

my detailed report now on
https://stagsnet.net/match/reports/view ... tchid=1265
If you read the original report, you only need to read from DETAILED REPORT onwards.

[ST4GS]

Why the different attendance to the Wrexham game which were both total sell outs. First 7k Home attendance since when ?

there were 55 more tickets sold for the Notts County game than the Wrexham game. That could have been something to do with a different number of disabled tickets, or carers, or such like. Also different matches might have different sterile areas or seats not sold for crowd management purposes. So a "sell out" for one match may not be the same number of seats sold as for another.

Whilst the total attendance is the number of tickets sold (and not the number actually inside the ground), the away attendance announced is the number passing through the turnstile. It is an unfortunate discrepancy (slightly irritating for a statistician like me!) which leads to difficulty when calculating the number of home fans. The home capacity is actually about 6950. The Notts County game wasn't a 7000 home attendance.

According to your report the total attendance = 8667 with an away following of 1659. Difference = 7008.

[eggy]

Why the different attendance to the Wrexham game which were both total sell outs. First 7k Home attendance since when ?

there were 55 more tickets sold for the Notts County game than the Wrexham game. That could have been something to do with a different number of disabled tickets, or carers, or such like. Also different matches might have different sterile areas or seats not sold for crowd management purposes. So a "sell out" for one match may not be the same number of seats sold as for another.

Whilst the total attendance is the number of tickets sold (and not the number actually inside the ground), the away attendance announced is the number passing through the turnstile. It is an unfortunate discrepancy (slightly irritating for a statistician like me!) which leads to difficulty when calculating the number of home fans. The home capacity is actually about 6950. The Notts County game wasn't a 7000 home attendance.

According to your report the total attendance = 8667 with an away following of 1659. Difference = 7008.

Read the explanation that you've replied to again

[ST4GS]

Why the different attendance to the Wrexham game which were both total sell outs. First 7k Home attendance since when ?

there were 55 more tickets sold for the Notts County game than the Wrexham game. That could have been something to do with a different number of disabled tickets, or carers, or such like. Also different matches might have different sterile areas or seats not sold for crowd management purposes. So a "sell out" for one match may not be the same number of seats sold as for another.

Whilst the total attendance is the number of tickets sold (and not the number actually inside the ground), the away attendance announced is the number passing through the turnstile. It is an unfortunate discrepancy (slightly irritating for a statistician like me!) which leads to difficulty when calculating the number of home fans. The home capacity is actually about 6950. The Notts County game wasn't a 7000 home attendance.

According to your report the total attendance = 8667 with an away following of 1659. Difference = 7008.

Read the explanation that you've replied to again

I understand the disparity between the calculation of home and away figures which is madness but if away fans figure is the actual number of away fans that attended then the difference must be home tickets sold which is in excess of 7000 so we sold more than our upper limit although probably 100 or so lower than this limit actually attended.

[Martin Shaw]

Why the different attendance to the Wrexham game which were both total sell outs. First 7k Home attendance since when ?

there were 55 more tickets sold for the Notts County game than the Wrexham game. That could have been something to do with a different number of disabled tickets, or carers, or such like. Also different matches might have different sterile areas or seats not sold for crowd management purposes. So a "sell out" for one match may not be the same number of seats sold as for another.

Whilst the total attendance is the number of tickets sold (and not the number actually inside the ground), the away attendance announced is the number passing through the turnstile. It is an unfortunate discrepancy (slightly irritating for a statistician like me!) which leads to difficulty when calculating the number of home fans. The home capacity is actually about 6950. The Notts County game wasn't a 7000 home attendance.

According to your report the total attendance = 8667 with an away following of 1659. Difference = 7008.

Read the explanation that you've replied to again

I understand the disparity between the calculation of home and away figures which is madness but if away fans figure is the actual number of away fans that attended then the difference must be home tickets sold which is in excess of 7000 so we sold more than our upper limit although probably 100 or so lower than this limit actually attended.

the exact number of tickets sent to away clubs in the North Stand is 1689+10wheelchair+12accessible=1711. So what has happened is that 30 to 50 away fans with tickets have not turned up. Hence the actual home attendance was actually about 6960.