Saturday Night Striker Questions

[DoomMerchant]

He walked out cos he's a human piece of excrement with the moral fibre of a rabid hyaena.

I didn't want him before he came. Didn't want him when he was here. And wouldn't take him again.

[Dave Wayne]

Roll your eyes as much as you like. Why would I highlight that bit when it didn’t happen? I could’ve added “failed TWICE with the second highest budget there’s ever been”
If that makes you feel better.

Some absolutely embarrassing comments on here as usual.

Exactly my point, only one of them did all 3 of those things, but you highlighted the 2 that the other one did.
Evans is the only Mansfield manager in the last 20 years to walk out on us. The last one before him was Dearden and we all know why that was.

Yes he walked out to go to a better placed team in a higher division, because he's a good manager that's constantly been employed by many clubs. Unlike the other one who still hasn't had a managerial job after failing TWICE with us. Yet some on here would have him back so he could make it a hat trick yet wouldn't have Evans back despite him being a far better manager with more honours and longer employment just because they 'don't like him'. Only on stagsnet

Why did he lie about it to try and avoid us getting any compensation ? Because he is a horrible scumbag of a man with absolutely no morals. That's why people "don't like him". I don't see anyone wanting Flitcroft back, just people saying we are better off with Clough than we were with Evans.

In fact, double checking back through this thread, the first person to mention Flitcroft was yourself !!

[Amber Andy]

Roll your eyes as much as you like. Why would I highlight that bit when it didn’t happen? I could’ve added “failed TWICE with the second highest budget there’s ever been”
If that makes you feel better.

Some absolutely embarrassing comments on here as usual.

Exactly my point, only one of them did all 3 of those things, but you highlighted the 2 that the other one did.
Evans is the only Mansfield manager in the last 20 years to walk out on us. The last one before him was Dearden and we all know why that was.

Yes he walked out to go to a better placed team in a higher division, because he's a good manager that's constantly been employed by many clubs. Unlike the other one who still hasn't had a managerial job after failing TWICE with us. Yet some on here would have him back so he could make it a hat trick yet wouldn't have Evans back despite him being a far better manager with more honours and longer employment just because they 'don't like him'. Only on stagsnet

Yes he did really well there ! I don't think anyone has said they would want DF back. I don't. I am more than happy with NC.

[Dan]

Roll your eyes as much as you like. Why would I highlight that bit when it didn’t happen? I could’ve added “failed TWICE with the second highest budget there’s ever been”
If that makes you feel better.

Some absolutely embarrassing comments on here as usual.

Exactly my point, only one of them did all 3 of those things, but you highlighted the 2 that the other one did.
Evans is the only Mansfield manager in the last 20 years to walk out on us. The last one before him was Dearden and we all know why that was.

Yes he walked out to go to a better placed team in a higher division, because he's a good manager that's constantly been employed by many clubs. Unlike the other one who still hasn't had a managerial job after failing TWICE with us. Yet some on here would have him back so he could make it a hat trick yet wouldn't have Evans back despite him being a far better manager with more honours and longer employment just because they 'don't like him'. Only on stagsnet

Why did he lie about it to try and avoid us getting any compensation ? Because he is a horrible scumbag of a man with absolutely no morals. That's why people "don't like him". I don't see anyone wanting Flitcroft back, just people saying we are better off with Clough than we were with Evans.

In fact, double checking back through this thread, the first person to mention Flitcroft was yourself !!

Cleary the owners didn't think he lied because they are still in contact with him. The reason I mentioned him was because it's the same 5 people who go on about hating Evans and saying he failed are the same ones who always big up the double failure just because they thought he was a good chap. If only they knew what he was really like, then they might think the same way about him as I do.

I've said it numerous times on here yet still people are blinkered, but I'll say it again. I despise Steve Evans, he's a lying, cheating, thieving Tim and I will never forgive him for walking out on us because no matter what those haters say, he would've taken us up I'm sure of that. I know why he left and the way he did it is just typical of him, but some of us can take the man out of the situation and realise what a good job he did here. And his record in the list of Stags managers backs it up. It's about time some people on here grew up and just accepted it, but I won't hold my breath and you can see why in this thread.

[Amber Andy]

Dan, whatever you think Evan's might have done, he didn't achieve promotion whilst managing the stags..... fact. I don't think anyone on here "big ups" DF. My opinion is that he shouldn't have been sacked. I can't form an opinion on information I don't know ! What I don't understand, is why you perpetually defend someone you (in your own words) "dispise".
I am of the opinion we are very lucky to have the manager we currently have and I hope John Radford and the board renew his contract whether we are promoted or not.

[yorkstag]

Dan, whatever you think Evan's might have done, he didn't achieve promotion whilst managing the stags..... fact. I don't think anyone on here "big ups" DF. My opinion is that he shouldn't have been sacked. I can't form an opinion on information I don't know ! What I don't understand, is why you perpetually defend someone you (in your own words) "dispise".
I am of the opinion we are very lucky to have the manager we currently have and I hope John Radford and the board renew his contract whether we are promoted or not.

Agree with all of that. Good post

[Chrisuknottm]

Dan, whatever you think Evan's might have done, he didn't achieve promotion whilst managing the stags..... fact. I don't think anyone on here "big ups" DF. My opinion is that he shouldn't have been sacked. I can't form an opinion on information I don't know ! What I don't understand, is why you perpetually defend someone you (in your own words) "dispise".
I am of the opinion we are very lucky to have the manager we currently have and I hope John Radford and the board renew his contract whether we are promoted or not.

So Andy you criticise Evans because he didn't achieve promotion here but you are absolutely happy to keep and happy clap our Nigel for doing the same .....outcome of this season not withstanding. I hated Evans and especially Raynor and thought their touchline antics were shameful but he is a winner with a repeated proven record and I'll bite my lip to get that rather than stay in League 2 always promising but never delivering.

[Amber Andy]

Dan, whatever you think Evan's might have done, he didn't achieve promotion whilst managing the stags..... fact. I don't think anyone on here "big ups" DF. My opinion is that he shouldn't have been sacked. I can't form an opinion on information I don't know ! What I don't understand, is why you perpetually defend someone you (in your own words) "dispise".
I am of the opinion we are very lucky to have the manager we currently have and I hope John Radford and the board renew his contract whether we are promoted or not.

So Andy you criticise Evans because he didn't achieve promotion here but you are absolutely happy to keep and happy clap our Nigel for doing the same .....outcome of this season not withstanding. I hated Evans and especially Raynor and thought their touchline antics were shameful but he is a winner with a repeated proven record and I'll bite my lip to get that rather than stay in League 2 always promising but never delivering.

Chris, no I criticise Evans because he walked out on us at a crucial part of the season. I have already answered the question about my views on promotion.

[daddycool]

Why would you want somebody back that failed last time ,it’s like having somebody back to your house that did a botched job the first time but he did a good job at your mates .

[Amber Andy]

Why would you want somebody back that failed last time ,it’s like having somebody back to your house that did a botched job the first time but he did a good job at your mates .

That is a good analogy daddycool. All I would add, would be left the job unfinished

[vicar_jeremiah]

Dan, whatever you think Evan's might have done, he didn't achieve promotion whilst managing the stags..... fact. I don't think anyone on here "big ups" DF. My opinion is that he shouldn't have been sacked. I can't form an opinion on information I don't know ! What I don't understand, is why you perpetually defend someone you (in your own words) "dispise".
I am of the opinion we are very lucky to have the manager we currently have and I hope John Radford and the board renew his contract whether we are promoted or not.

So you would be happy with annual failure? And don't say that the entertainment is great. Watching that first half against Tranmere was akin to being whipped with barbed wire. If we dont get promoted there is no chance Nigel will be here next season. and quite rightly so, But if he gets his finger out there is every chance we will, although i suspect through the play offs

[Amber Andy]

Dan, whatever you think Evan's might have done, he didn't achieve promotion whilst managing the stags..... fact. I don't think anyone on here "big ups" DF. My opinion is that he shouldn't have been sacked. I can't form an opinion on information I don't know ! What I don't understand, is why you perpetually defend someone you (in your own words) "dispise".
I am of the opinion we are very lucky to have the manager we currently have and I hope John Radford and the board renew his contract whether we are promoted or not.

So you would be happy with annual failure? And don't say that the entertainment is great. Watching that first half against Tranmere was akin to being whipped with barbed wire. If we dont get promoted there is no chance Nigel will be here next season. and quite rightly so, But if he gets his finger out there is every chance we will, although i suspect through the play offs

No I want to see us playing in league 1next season. What I don"t want is a repeat of what happened a few seasons ago, after we narrowly missed out on promotion.

[TheMyTStags]

Evans didn't get us promoted.
Flitcroft didn't get us promoted.
Clough hasn't yet get us promoted.
I'd say the reason people will give Flitcroft and Evans the benefit is because they seem like significantly more likeable people. On top of that, we are better now than we were under either of the previous 2, and were better under Flitcroft than Evans. I'm confused why people bring up Evans' success with other clubs, it's not really relevant. You could argue Flitcroft has a promotion since, given he's DOF at Port Vale and therefore handles all of their signings. Surely we've learned by now that no proven track record brings any guarantee of success (player or manager) and would rather give time to a good manager with a good chance of getting us promoted (whilst being likeable, playing good football and increasing the crowds to the highest level in decades) rather than risk switching and ending up with someone like Coughlan, or even getting a repeat of Evans (good manager, no loyalty, sacks us off mid season)

If only promotion is success, Evans failed at Leeds, Mansfield, Peterborough and Gillingham, surely Stevenage should never have given him a chance?

[Laney_MTFC]

could someone please lead me to the striker chat in this thread? thank you

[lifestags]

Do we think if Swan starts doing better (after his goal) that we would still need a striker in Jan? I would like Gale to go out on loan if he is fit after his injury.

[Amber Andy]

Do we think if Swan starts doing better (after his goal) that we would still need a striker in Jan? I would like Gale to go out on loan if he is fit after his injury.

Yes, I think we do need for Gale to go out on loan (to gain experience and more game time), and bring someone in who is a similar type of striker as Akins. I think Swan will start hitting the back of the net similar to last season.

[Amber Andy]

could someone please lead me to the striker chat in this thread? thank you

As far as I can see the first five posts on page 1.Plus a couple of others on the same page.

[Beyond The Pale]

could someone please lead me to the striker chat in this thread? thank you

Yep. Thought i'd have a look & it's another Dan loves Steve Evans / hates David Flitcroft hijack!

[MTFCMusings]

Just to go back on topic, NC has said today that barring any injuries they may go with what we already have. Didn’t rule out one cropping up in Jan. seems to have gone back a little on last week when he said they would look for a striker.

[stag324]

i think we will bring a striker in. We need someone who can either walk straight into the first team, AKA Armstrong or someone who can give us a plan B and is happy to sit on the bench until needed. - No names spring to mind

[Chrisuknottm]

Just to go back on topic, NC has said today that barring any injuries they may go with what we already have. Didn’t rule out one cropping up in Jan. seems to have gone back a little on last week when he said they would look for a striker.

Just when today was going well you have to go and upset me Musings

[lifestags]

Do we think if Swan starts doing better (after his goal) that we would still need a striker in Jan? I would like Gale to go out on loan if he is fit after his injury.

Clough basically answered this question earlier, said something along the lines of ''if Swan is on form, we dont need another striker, if he is off it then we might''.

[Amber Andy]

Do we think if Swan starts doing better (after his goal) that we would still need a striker in Jan? I would like Gale to go out on loan if he is fit after his injury.

Clough basically answered this question earlier, said something along the lines of ''if Swan is on form, we dont need another striker, if he is off it then we might''.

That would be disappointing. If we could get Gale out on loan and bring in a better striker that would enhance our chances of an automatic promotion place. It would also make sense to strengthen now for next season with league 1 in mind. There maybe no one out there, as clubs won't want to part with their better players in January. However, it's worth a try.

[Martin Shaw]

Do we think if Swan starts doing better (after his goal) that we would still need a striker in Jan? I would like Gale to go out on loan if he is fit after his injury.

Clough basically answered this question earlier, said something along the lines of ''if Swan is on form, we dont need another striker, if he is off it then we might''.

That would be disappointing. If we could get Gale out on loan and bring in a better striker that would enhance our chances of an automatic promotion place. It would also make sense to strengthen now for next season with league 1 in mind. There maybe no one out there, as clubs won't want to part with their better players in January. However, it's worth a try.

Gale will be coming back from injury at the end of January, so I'd say it's unlikely he will go out on loan in January.

[Rob]

Do we think if Swan starts doing better (after his goal) that we would still need a striker in Jan? I would like Gale to go out on loan if he is fit after his injury.

Clough basically answered this question earlier, said something along the lines of ''if Swan is on form, we dont need another striker, if he is off it then we might''.

That would be disappointing. If we could get Gale out on loan and bring in a better striker that would enhance our chances of an automatic promotion place. It would also make sense to strengthen now for next season with league 1 in mind. There maybe no one out there, as clubs won't want to part with their better players in January. However, it's worth a try.

Gale will be coming back from injury at the end of January, so I'd say it's unlikely he will go out on loan in January.

Isn't the loan window different when loaning down to the non-league, ie doesn't close on 31 Jan? It might actually work out perfectly as he could use the loan to get game time and match fitness. He won't be getting much football here for the rest of this season barring injuries.