Its Ok not to be Ok

[Dan]

Monday morning soon, keep your heads up and remember it'll soon be Saturday again.

[part time pete]

Monday morning soon, keep your heads up and remember it'll soon be Saturday again.

Will you be following County away on Saturday.

[PEAR CIDER]

Monday morning soon, keep your heads up and remember it'll soon be Saturday again.

It's not good to be living weekend to weekend...

[Dan]

Monday morning soon, keep your heads up and remember it'll soon be Saturday again.

It's not good to be living weekend to weekend...

If it’s the only way to get through life then you have no choice.

[Dan]

Monday morning soon, keep your heads up and remember it'll soon be Saturday again.

Will you be following County away on Saturday.

I certainly will and I will be hoping that they get smashed

[SeanieStag]

Monday morning soon, keep your heads up and remember it'll soon be Saturday again.

It's not good to be living weekend to weekend...

If it’s the only way to get through life then you have no choice.

We all need something to get us through the bad times. If the light at the end of the tunnel is a Stags match or the weekend in general, so be it. It’s a starting point and something to build on.

[Dan]

Monday morning soon, keep your heads up and remember it'll soon be Saturday again.

It's not good to be living weekend to weekend...

If it’s the only way to get through life then you have no choice.

We all need something to get us through the bad times. If the light at the end of the tunnel is a Stags match or the weekend in general, so be it. It’s a starting point and something to build on.

100%.

[PEAR CIDER]

Then there is clearly issues that need addressing and that needs something done about it.

Job change, hobby change whatever it may be.

Everyone enjoys downtime on the weekend but if it's the only thing that's keeping your head above water being depressed all week, then it's really a bad sign and not a good cycle to be in. Especially if beer is involved..

Go and talk to someone professional

[Dan]

Then there is clearly issues that need addressing and that needs something done about it.

Job change, hobby change whatever it may be.

Everyone enjoys downtime on the weekend but if it's the only thing that's keeping your head above water being depressed all week, then it's really a bad sign and not a good cycle to be in. Especially if beer is involved..

Go and talk to someone professional

Well I’m teetotal and always have been so I can’t talk for anyone else. But I have spent many years just looking forward to Saturday afternoon to help me get through the week and I know I’m not alone in that. It’s very easy to say change job or hobby etc but it’s very difficult to do it when you are ill.

[ParisStag]

Been doing CBT therapy. Highly recommend.

[part time pete]

Been doing CBT therapy. Highly recommend.

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/talkin ... /overview/


A link to what CBT is, as I had no idea.

[Dan]

Been doing CBT therapy. Highly recommend.

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/talkin ... /overview/


A link to what CBT is, as I had no idea.

Talking Therapies. We signpost a lot of our service users to it.

[Elkesley Stag]

Thought long and hard about posting this because I’m sure some will take it the wrong way . I fully understand the world is changing for the better regarding mental health issues and the majority of people are far more thoughtful and supportive. Hopefully the education continues . I am retiring from work shortly and for the past 6 months I have had two 18 year olds learning the basics of my job. One of them has emotional issues and feels very insecure. There have been many challenges .Whenever we have issues with the lad the younger members of staff are very supportive and the dinosaurs leave them to it . This isn’t because we don’t care it’s because the world we grew up did not prepare us for these situations and younger people have a more natural empathy.The point I am trying to make is that if someone appears to be uncaring, unhelpful or distant that may not be true. They may simply realise other people are better suited to the challenge while others take longer to adapt and express themselves.

[PEAR CIDER]

Great Post. Doesn't help that children are molly coddled in school these days. I've noticed such a huge difference in my 20 year career of thr calibre of person coming through the ranks. Social media being a big part of this

More sensitive, Self entitlement, can't handle real life pressures and pressure of what real life is. Almost set up to fail and don't understand hard work.

Mental health will come in all forms and variations with many triggers and reasons different for different people.

I feel the older generation have a different type of mental health problem, where as the younger generation struggle to adapt to adult life.

[yaxhamstag]

Thought long and hard about posting this because I’m sure some will take it the wrong way . I fully understand the world is changing for the better regarding mental health issues and the majority of people are far more thoughtful and supportive. Hopefully the education continues . I am retiring from work shortly and for the past 6 months I have had two 18 year olds learning the basics of my job. One of them has emotional issues and feels very insecure. There have been many challenges .Whenever we have issues with the lad the younger members of staff are very supportive and the dinosaurs leave them to it . This isn’t because we don’t care it’s because the world we grew up did not prepare us for these situations and younger people have a more natural empathy.The point I am trying to make is that if someone appears to be uncaring, unhelpful or distant that may not be true. They may simply realise other people are better suited to the challenge while others take longer to adapt and express themselves.

Great post Elkesley. Very thought provoking and a really interesting angle on the topic.

[Johnny Rotten]

A while ago at work I was shared a document detailing the Japanese concept to improve work and life known as "Ikigai".

It's something I refer back to periodically and having looked it up earlier today it's perhaps apt to add to this ongoing conversation.

[Johnny Rotten]

https://actionforhappiness.org/all-calendars

[Dan]

Thought long and hard about posting this because I’m sure some will take it the wrong way . I fully understand the world is changing for the better regarding mental health issues and the majority of people are far more thoughtful and supportive. Hopefully the education continues . I am retiring from work shortly and for the past 6 months I have had two 18 year olds learning the basics of my job. One of them has emotional issues and feels very insecure. There have been many challenges .Whenever we have issues with the lad the younger members of staff are very supportive and the dinosaurs leave them to it . This isn’t because we don’t care it’s because the world we grew up did not prepare us for these situations and younger people have a more natural empathy.The point I am trying to make is that if someone appears to be uncaring, unhelpful or distant that may not be true. They may simply realise other people are better suited to the challenge while others take longer to adapt and express themselves.

Brilliant post that is and a very sensible and pragmatic view. A lot of people who have never gone through it simply don’t know or can’t understand what it’s about. The amount of ignorant comments I’ve heard is incredible. I actually had someone say to me when I was suffering “how long are you going to be like that for?” Others just ridicule people when they say they’re struggling with their mental health simply because they have never had it, don’t understand it or don’t believe it’s a proper illness mainly because they can’t ’see it’.

[Dan]

Great Post. Doesn't help that children are molly coddled in school these days. I've noticed such a huge difference in my 20 year career of thr calibre of person coming through the ranks. Social media being a big part of this

More sensitive, Self entitlement, can't handle real life pressures and pressure of what real life is. Almost set up to fail and don't understand hard work.

Mental health will come in all forms and variations with many triggers and reasons different for different people.

I feel the older generation have a different type of mental health problem, where as the younger generation struggle to adapt to adult life.

Another great post especially the mollycoddling bit. My son’s school sports day was ridiculous. There were no races because they didn’t want anyone ‘losing’ fgs. So they just got into groups then moved round a circuit of different sports. You lose all the time in life whether it’s in competitions, on your Xbox/playstation games, in love, on the lottery etc so we should be preparing the kids for losses and teaching them how to do it. Not saying ooo no we can’t let someone come last or be a loser. It’s ridiculous and that’s why there are so many bad losers or people out there who can’t cope with it because they’ve not been brought up right.

[arsene wengers coat]

Great Post. Doesn't help that children are molly coddled in school these days. I've noticed such a huge difference in my 20 year career of thr calibre of person coming through the ranks. Social media being a big part of this

More sensitive, Self entitlement, can't handle real life pressures and pressure of what real life is. Almost set up to fail and don't understand hard work.

Mental health will come in all forms and variations with many triggers and reasons different for different people.

I feel the older generation have a different type of mental health problem, where as the younger generation struggle to adapt to adult life.

I've found the quality of the grads I've managed to be Excellent, some have much better professional boundary setting and ability to say no to senior leadership than I was able to at their stage of my career. Some request a lot of help, some demand more in salary expectations. Some are open about their emotional requirements too. But if you don't ask you don't get. Fair play for asking.

They should be commended that they are shifting professional expectations and doing things you wish was normal 20 years ago when we both started out.

One thing I will say is we do struggle to get them into the office enough. This might be a covid hangover but they need to be in the thick of it to learn by osmosis in my industry. There's also 'out of sight out of mind', if they aren't visible they'll get overlooked and this will impact their progression.

In some cases I think the working practice shift I've noticed is very healthy, but the reluctance to come to work is not.

[arsene wengers coat]

Great Post. Doesn't help that children are molly coddled in school these days. I've noticed such a huge difference in my 20 year career of thr calibre of person coming through the ranks. Social media being a big part of this

More sensitive, Self entitlement, can't handle real life pressures and pressure of what real life is. Almost set up to fail and don't understand hard work.

Mental health will come in all forms and variations with many triggers and reasons different for different people.

I feel the older generation have a different type of mental health problem, where as the younger generation struggle to adapt to adult life.

Another great post especially the mollycoddling bit. My son’s school sports day was ridiculous. There were no races because they didn’t want anyone ‘losing’ fgs. So they just got into groups then moved round a circuit of different sports. You lose all the time in life whether it’s in competitions, on your Xbox/playstation games, in love, on the lottery etc so we should be preparing the kids for losses and teaching them how to do it. Not saying ooo no we can’t let someone come last or be a loser. It’s ridiculous and that’s why there are so many bad losers or people out there who can’t cope with it because they’ve not been brought up right.

Our school does that, it's pathetic.

[ParisStag]

I was glad to hear that my two daughters are doing auditions at school for the role of Juliet. One or both of them won't get it and they'll have to deal with that, and we've talked to them about that possibility and will be there to talk to them again when it happens, but it's important for them to learn how to deal with disappointment. The school doesn't do much right, but I'm glad they're not shying away from competitiveness due to fear of hurt feelings.

[Johnny Rotten]

So sad that earlier this week I was informed a former colleague of mine, a young lad, sadly passed away recently. Mental health issues got the better of him. On the face of it he was such a helpful, friendly soul, definitely a trusted and reliable colleague who loved to help people

[Dan]

So sad that earlier this week I was informed a former colleague of mine, a young lad, sadly passed away recently. Mental health issues got the better of him. On the face of it he was such a helpful, friendly soul, definitely a trusted and reliable colleague who loved to help people

It’s usually those kind of people it gets to.

[SeanieStag]

So sad that earlier this week I was informed a former colleague of mine, a young lad, sadly passed away recently. Mental health issues got the better of him. On the face of it he was such a helpful, friendly soul, definitely a trusted and reliable colleague who loved to help people

It’s usually those kind of people it gets to.

Too true. People who are dismissed by others as being “a bit sensitive” and whose kindness is often mistook for weakness. I’ve seen too many young lads like this lose the battle.