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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby tillydog123 » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:05 pm

Ta Mutiny for that reflection and agree with u largely but another 3 or 4 draws and or a couple of defeats pressure will mount and looking like if we keep flopflip and his side flopper we will be in or around 9 th 10th ish at best.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:03 am

I think if we're 9th or 10th around Xmas then I can see DF being given till end of season, depending on the gap to playoffs. Much lower and perhaps questions will be asked, but it really depends on the manner of results and any mitigating circumstances.

Thing is, who realistically would you recruit to replace him? I saw some thread about Calderwood, but that seems a joke to me. Certainly don't think he's much if any better than DF imo


Its a bit like poker - with DF we've got a decent hand but a few cards short of a winning one. Do you fold, or hold out longer to see if you can acquire what's needed to take the glory and rewards? ;)
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby bobbystagsfan » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:54 am

MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:I think if we're 9th or 10th around Xmas then I can see DF being given till end of season, depending on the gap to playoffs. Much lower and perhaps questions will be asked, but it really depends on the manner of results and any mitigating circumstances.

Thing is, who realistically would you recruit to replace him? I saw some thread about Calderwood, but that seems a joke to me. Certainly don't think he's much if any better than DF imo


Its a bit like poker - with DF we've got a decent hand but a few cards short of a winning one. Do you fold, or hold out longer to see if you can acquire what's needed to take the glory and rewards? ;)



the only name I've seen suggested is Darren Ferguson by those who aren't happy which is quite funny, he's just as mental as Evans... just not as good at getting promotions
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Rob » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:24 pm

MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:I think if we're 9th or 10th around Xmas then I can see DF being given till end of season, depending on the gap to playoffs. Much lower and perhaps questions will be asked, but it really depends on the manner of results and any mitigating circumstances.

Thing is, who realistically would you recruit to replace him? I saw some thread about Calderwood, but that seems a joke to me. Certainly don't think he's much if any better than DF imo


Its a bit like poker - with DF we've got a decent hand but a few cards short of a winning one. Do you fold, or hold out longer to see if you can acquire what's needed to take the glory and rewards? ;)


The non league is littered with former league clubs who thought sacking managers every few months was a good plan!
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Sneag » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:48 pm

Rob wrote:
MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:I think if we're 9th or 10th around Xmas then I can see DF being given till end of season, depending on the gap to playoffs. Much lower and perhaps questions will be asked, but it really depends on the manner of results and any mitigating circumstances.

Thing is, who realistically would you recruit to replace him? I saw some thread about Calderwood, but that seems a joke to me. Certainly don't think he's much if any better than DF imo


Its a bit like poker - with DF we've got a decent hand but a few cards short of a winning one. Do you fold, or hold out longer to see if you can acquire what's needed to take the glory and rewards? ;)


The non league is littered with former league clubs who thought sacking managers every few months was a good plan!


No it isn't. It's littered with ex league teams who were either poorly run, complacent (too good to go down), or owned by crooks.

The Premier league on the other hand is packed full of clubs who sack their managers at the drop of a hat.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Rob » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:09 pm

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MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:I think if we're 9th or 10th around Xmas then I can see DF being given till end of season, depending on the gap to playoffs. Much lower and perhaps questions will be asked, but it really depends on the manner of results and any mitigating circumstances.

Thing is, who realistically would you recruit to replace him? I saw some thread about Calderwood, but that seems a joke to me. Certainly don't think he's much if any better than DF imo


Its a bit like poker - with DF we've got a decent hand but a few cards short of a winning one. Do you fold, or hold out longer to see if you can acquire what's needed to take the glory and rewards? ;)


The non league is littered with former league clubs who thought sacking managers every few months was a good plan!


No it isn't. It's littered with ex league teams who were either poorly run, complacent (too good to go down), or owned by crooks.

The Premier league on the other hand is packed full of clubs who sack their managers at the drop of a hat.


Nope. Chesterfield have had a strong playing budget for the last 2 seasons. They have also had quite a few managers in that time too.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Sneag » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:05 pm

I think Chesterfield fall firmly into the poorly run and complacent camps.

Just for arguments sake Rob how patient would you have been with Curle or Evans if they had Flitter's points to game ratio?
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:06 pm

Sneag wrote:
Rob wrote:
MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:I think if we're 9th or 10th around Xmas then I can see DF being given till end of season, depending on the gap to playoffs. Much lower and perhaps questions will be asked, but it really depends on the manner of results and any mitigating circumstances.

Thing is, who realistically would you recruit to replace him? I saw some thread about Calderwood, but that seems a joke to me. Certainly don't think he's much if any better than DF imo


Its a bit like poker - with DF we've got a decent hand but a few cards short of a winning one. Do you fold, or hold out longer to see if you can acquire what's needed to take the glory and rewards? ;)


The non league is littered with former league clubs who thought sacking managers every few months was a good plan!


No it isn't. It's littered with ex league teams who were either poorly run, complacent (too good to go down), or owned by crooks.

The Premier league on the other hand is packed full of clubs who sack their managers at the drop of a hat.



You could always ask Newcastle Utd fans what they think of that :P

Conference is the graveyard of clubs that have been badly run, but some accelerated their fall because of chop n' change management if you ask me. Not sure about Prem ones - which clubs do you mean, Sneagy? I can't recall a list of clubs making regular managerial changes that brought about incremental gains in form and position each time?


And tbf, if my maths is right, Evans & Flitters are matched on 16pts points after 11 games of their first full season in charge :shock:
Evans also had a similarly bad spell at the end of his first season in charge :shock:

Only difference is, this time last year Evans had 20-30 more games in charge and total free reign with his spending. Not saying you're wrong, just unsure about how last season we seemed so comparatively complacent when you look at it in the cold light of day
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Rob » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:25 pm

Sneag wrote:I think Chesterfield fall firmly into the poorly run and complacent camps.

Just for arguments sake Rob how patient would you have been with Curle or Evans if they had Flitter's points to game ratio?


Curle got us relegated in his first season, not once did I call for his head. Curle then failed to get one of our best sides in decades into the top 3, not once did I call for his head.

This time last season we were in exactly the same position, despite my loathing of Evans, not once did I call for his head.

You seem to link the fact that I disliked both men as human beings with wanting them sacked. Not true at all, though I will confess to being delighted when both men left our club.

How many managers did Chesterfield go through during their decline? Yes they had off field issues (nowhere near as severe as ours under Haslam I hasten to add) and of course they maintained a pretty high wage budget. I'd say switching managers contributed considerably to their downfall.

The argument that changing managers regularly is usually a good thing is nonsense, in my opinion of course. I can see progress under DF, I like the way we play, we are hard to beat and yes the draws have been frustrating for everyone, but I am prepared to be much, much more patient than a few on here. I agree completely with Mutiny.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:32 pm

Thanks for last sentence Rob, your cheque's in the post ;)
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Sneag » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:37 pm

Until this manager, I've never advocated a manager be fired after a short stint in charge, but then I'd never seen a Stags manager so spectacularly raspberry a season up from such a strong position.

This is a new season & at the moment he has the benefit of the doubt from me because I can see what he's trying to achieve, but if he continually fails to achieve what he's setting out to do i.e. win matches (a bit like a 4th Div footballer who continually tries the Hollywood pass, that gets nowhere near the target, you'll applaud the intent a few times, but eventually the penny drops that maybe the guy just isn't very good), then he'll evetually get the bullet and for all the pretty football he won't be missed anymore than Cartoon Palmer.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:03 pm

Sneag wrote:Until this manager, I've never advocated a manager be fired after a short stint in charge, but then I'd never seen a Stags manager so spectacularly raspberry a season up from such a strong position.

This is a new season & at the moment he has the benefit of the doubt from me because I can see what he's trying to achieve, but if he continually fails to achieve what he's setting out to do i.e. win matches (a bit like a 4th Div footballer who continually tries the Hollywood pass, that gets nowhere near the target, you'll applaud the intent a few times, but eventually the penny drops that maybe the guy just isn't very good), then he'll evetually get the bullet and for all the pretty football he won't be missed anymore than Cartoon Palmer.


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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Vicar Jeremiah » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:24 pm

Sneag wrote:Until this manager, I've never advocated a manager be fired after a short stint in charge, but then I'd never seen a Stags manager so spectacularly raspberry a season up from such a strong position.

This is a new season & at the moment he has the benefit of the doubt from me because I can see what he's trying to achieve, but if he continually fails to achieve what he's setting out to do i.e. win matches (a bit like a 4th Div footballer who continually tries the Hollywood pass, that gets nowhere near the target, you'll applaud the intent a few times, but eventually the penny drops that maybe the guy just isn't very good), then he'll evetually get the bullet and for all the pretty football he won't be missed anymore than Cartoon Palmer.


Certainly that sums up my thoughts, and many more I would think
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby ST4GS » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:25 pm

Sneag wrote:Until this manager, I've never advocated a manager be fired after a short stint in charge, but then I'd never seen a Stags manager so spectacularly raspberry a season up from such a strong position.

This is a new season & at the moment he has the benefit of the doubt from me because I can see what he's trying to achieve, but if he continually fails to achieve what he's setting out to do i.e. win matches (a bit like a 4th Div footballer who continually tries the Hollywood pass, that gets nowhere near the target, you'll applaud the intent a few times, but eventually the penny drops that maybe the guy just isn't very good), then he'll evetually get the bullet and for all the pretty football he won't be missed anymore than Cartoon Palmer.


Do you remember 1981 , we imploded then too from a stronger position

League Division Four table after close of play on 05 March 1981 (2 points for a win, four automatic promotion places)
1 Southend United 36 24 5 7 61 24 37 53
2 Lincoln City 34 20 10 4 57 19 38 50
3 Doncaster Rovers 35 17 8 10 45 40 5 42
4 Mansfield Town 34 18 5 11 47 30 17 41
5 AFC Bournemouth 36 15 8 13 37 35 2 38
6 Hartlepool United 35 15 8 12 50 49 1 38
7 Aldershot 35 14 10 11 31 30 1 38
8 Wimbledon 33 15 7 11 46 32 14 37
9 Peterborough United 34 13 11 10 53 43 10 37
10 Torquay United 35 16 4 15 47 48 -1 36
11 Wigan Athletic 36 14 8 14 36 42 -6 36
12 Bradford City 34 11 13 10 40 44 -4 35
13 Rochdale 34 11 12 11 48 50 -2 34
14 Darlington 33 13 7 13 46 45 1 33
15 Northampton Town 34 13 7 14 49 54 -5 33
16 Crewe Alexandra 36 10 12 14 39 49 -10 32
17 Scunthorpe United 36 7 17 12 41 48 -7 31
18 Bury 34 11 7 16 45 48 -3 29
19 Tranmere Rovers 33 11 7 15 42 47 -5 29
20 Stockport County 36 11 7 18 34 47 -13 29
21 York City 33 9 8 16 35 45 -10 26
22 Port Vale 34 8 9 17 43 62 -19 25
23 Halifax Town 35 6 11 18 35 55 -20 23
24 Hereford United 33 7 9 17 29 50 -21 23

League Division Four end of season table for 1980-81 season
1 Southend United 46 30 7 9 79 31 48 67
2 Lincoln City 46 25 15 6 66 25 41 65
3 Doncaster Rovers 46 22 12 12 59 49 10 56
4 Wimbledon 46 23 9 14 64 46 18 55
5 Peterborough United 46 17 18 11 68 54 14 52
6 Aldershot 46 18 14 14 43 41 2 50
7 Mansfield Town 46 20 9 17 58 44 14 49
8 Darlington 46 19 11 16 65 59 6 49
9 Hartlepool United 46 20 9 17 64 61 3 49
10 Northampton Town 46 18 13 15 65 67 -2 49
11 Wigan Athletic 46 18 11 17 51 55 -4 47
12 Bury 46 17 11 18 70 62 8 45
13 AFC Bournemouth 46 16 13 17 47 48 -1 45
14 Bradford City 46 14 16 16 53 60 -7 44
15 Rochdale 46 14 15 17 60 70 -10 43
16 Scunthorpe United 46 11 20 15 60 69 -9 42
17 Torquay United 46 18 5 23 55 63 -8 41
18 Crewe Alexandra 46 13 14 19 48 61 -13 40
19 Port Vale 46 12 15 19 57 70 -13 39
20 Stockport County 46 16 7 23 44 57 -13 39
21 Tranmere Rovers 46 13 10 23 59 73 -14 36
22 Hereford United 46 11 13 22 38 62 -24 35
23 Halifax Town 46 11 12 23 44 71 -27 34
24 York City 46 12 9 25 47 66 -19 33
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Sneag » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:49 pm

ST4GS wrote:
Sneag wrote:Until this manager, I've never advocated a manager be fired after a short stint in charge, but then I'd never seen a Stags manager so spectacularly raspberry a season up from such a strong position.

This is a new season & at the moment he has the benefit of the doubt from me because I can see what he's trying to achieve, but if he continually fails to achieve what he's setting out to do i.e. win matches (a bit like a 4th Div footballer who continually tries the Hollywood pass, that gets nowhere near the target, you'll applaud the intent a few times, but eventually the penny drops that maybe the guy just isn't very good), then he'll evetually get the bullet and for all the pretty football he won't be missed anymore than Cartoon Palmer.


Do you remember 1981 , we imploded then too from a stronger position

League Division Four table after close of play on 05 March 1981 (2 points for a win, four automatic promotion places)
1 Southend United 36 24 5 7 61 24 37 53
2 Lincoln City 34 20 10 4 57 19 38 50
3 Doncaster Rovers 35 17 8 10 45 40 5 42
4 Mansfield Town 34 18 5 11 47 30 17 41
5 AFC Bournemouth 36 15 8 13 37 35 2 38
6 Hartlepool United 35 15 8 12 50 49 1 38
7 Aldershot 35 14 10 11 31 30 1 38
8 Wimbledon 33 15 7 11 46 32 14 37
9 Peterborough United 34 13 11 10 53 43 10 37
10 Torquay United 35 16 4 15 47 48 -1 36
11 Wigan Athletic 36 14 8 14 36 42 -6 36
12 Bradford City 34 11 13 10 40 44 -4 35
13 Rochdale 34 11 12 11 48 50 -2 34
14 Darlington 33 13 7 13 46 45 1 33
15 Northampton Town 34 13 7 14 49 54 -5 33
16 Crewe Alexandra 36 10 12 14 39 49 -10 32
17 Scunthorpe United 36 7 17 12 41 48 -7 31
18 Bury 34 11 7 16 45 48 -3 29
19 Tranmere Rovers 33 11 7 15 42 47 -5 29
20 Stockport County 36 11 7 18 34 47 -13 29
21 York City 33 9 8 16 35 45 -10 26
22 Port Vale 34 8 9 17 43 62 -19 25
23 Halifax Town 35 6 11 18 35 55 -20 23
24 Hereford United 33 7 9 17 29 50 -21 23

League Division Four end of season table for 1980-81 season
1 Southend United 46 30 7 9 79 31 48 67
2 Lincoln City 46 25 15 6 66 25 41 65
3 Doncaster Rovers 46 22 12 12 59 49 10 56
4 Wimbledon 46 23 9 14 64 46 18 55
5 Peterborough United 46 17 18 11 68 54 14 52
6 Aldershot 46 18 14 14 43 41 2 50
7 Mansfield Town 46 20 9 17 58 44 14 49
8 Darlington 46 19 11 16 65 59 6 49
9 Hartlepool United 46 20 9 17 64 61 3 49
10 Northampton Town 46 18 13 15 65 67 -2 49
11 Wigan Athletic 46 18 11 17 51 55 -4 47
12 Bury 46 17 11 18 70 62 8 45
13 AFC Bournemouth 46 16 13 17 47 48 -1 45
14 Bradford City 46 14 16 16 53 60 -7 44
15 Rochdale 46 14 15 17 60 70 -10 43
16 Scunthorpe United 46 11 20 15 60 69 -9 42
17 Torquay United 46 18 5 23 55 63 -8 41
18 Crewe Alexandra 46 13 14 19 48 61 -13 40
19 Port Vale 46 12 15 19 57 70 -13 39
20 Stockport County 46 16 7 23 44 57 -13 39
21 Tranmere Rovers 46 13 10 23 59 73 -14 36
22 Hereford United 46 11 13 22 38 62 -24 35
23 Halifax Town 46 11 12 23 44 71 -27 34
24 York City 46 12 9 25 47 66 -19 33


If he'd matched this raspberry up and made the play offs I think we'd have all been happy with that. ;)
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby Vice President » Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:02 pm

Gosh ..... a third of those clubs are no longer in the football league! That's a sobering thought.

And some additional clubs (including ourselves) went out of the football league and fortunately managed to return.

A small handful of those clubs went on to hit the dizzy heights, but that league table just goes to show how perilously close League 2 is to oblivion. .... And it also shows how lucky we are to be where we are now.

Some people moan about our league position, but our plight could be so much worse. Now is a good time to appreciate what we actually have.
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:12 pm

Well we could be doing better, but I'm eternally thankful for where we are. There were times in the last 20 years when it really felt like we were teetering on the abyss.

Great owner, new facilities, good football.... just need to tweak the scorelines a bit ;)
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby MOTG » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:27 pm

MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:Well we could be doing better, but I'm eternally thankful for where we are. There were times in the last 20 years when it really felt like we were teetering on the abyss.

Great owner, new facilities, good football.... just need to tweak the scorelines a bit ;)

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby london amber stag » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:48 am

MutinyOnTheCounty wrote:Well we could be doing better, but I'm eternally thankful for where we are. There were times in the last 20 years when it really felt like we were teetering on the abyss.

Great owner, new facilities, good football.... just need to tweak the scorelines a bit ;)


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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby ST4GS » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:18 pm

Sneag wrote:
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Sneag wrote:Until this manager, I've never advocated a manager be fired after a short stint in charge, but then I'd never seen a Stags manager so spectacularly raspberry a season up from such a strong position.

This is a new season & at the moment he has the benefit of the doubt from me because I can see what he's trying to achieve, but if he continually fails to achieve what he's setting out to do i.e. win matches (a bit like a 4th Div footballer who continually tries the Hollywood pass, that gets nowhere near the target, you'll applaud the intent a few times, but eventually the penny drops that maybe the guy just isn't very good), then he'll evetually get the bullet and for all the pretty football he won't be missed anymore than Cartoon Palmer.


Do you remember 1981 , we imploded then too from a stronger position

League Division Four table after close of play on 05 March 1981 (2 points for a win, four automatic promotion places)
1 Southend United 36 24 5 7 61 24 37 53
2 Lincoln City 34 20 10 4 57 19 38 50
3 Doncaster Rovers 35 17 8 10 45 40 5 42
4 Mansfield Town 34 18 5 11 47 30 17 41
5 AFC Bournemouth 36 15 8 13 37 35 2 38
6 Hartlepool United 35 15 8 12 50 49 1 38
7 Aldershot 35 14 10 11 31 30 1 38
8 Wimbledon 33 15 7 11 46 32 14 37
9 Peterborough United 34 13 11 10 53 43 10 37
10 Torquay United 35 16 4 15 47 48 -1 36
11 Wigan Athletic 36 14 8 14 36 42 -6 36
12 Bradford City 34 11 13 10 40 44 -4 35
13 Rochdale 34 11 12 11 48 50 -2 34
14 Darlington 33 13 7 13 46 45 1 33
15 Northampton Town 34 13 7 14 49 54 -5 33
16 Crewe Alexandra 36 10 12 14 39 49 -10 32
17 Scunthorpe United 36 7 17 12 41 48 -7 31
18 Bury 34 11 7 16 45 48 -3 29
19 Tranmere Rovers 33 11 7 15 42 47 -5 29
20 Stockport County 36 11 7 18 34 47 -13 29
21 York City 33 9 8 16 35 45 -10 26
22 Port Vale 34 8 9 17 43 62 -19 25
23 Halifax Town 35 6 11 18 35 55 -20 23
24 Hereford United 33 7 9 17 29 50 -21 23

League Division Four end of season table for 1980-81 season
1 Southend United 46 30 7 9 79 31 48 67
2 Lincoln City 46 25 15 6 66 25 41 65
3 Doncaster Rovers 46 22 12 12 59 49 10 56
4 Wimbledon 46 23 9 14 64 46 18 55
5 Peterborough United 46 17 18 11 68 54 14 52
6 Aldershot 46 18 14 14 43 41 2 50
7 Mansfield Town 46 20 9 17 58 44 14 49
8 Darlington 46 19 11 16 65 59 6 49
9 Hartlepool United 46 20 9 17 64 61 3 49
10 Northampton Town 46 18 13 15 65 67 -2 49
11 Wigan Athletic 46 18 11 17 51 55 -4 47
12 Bury 46 17 11 18 70 62 8 45
13 AFC Bournemouth 46 16 13 17 47 48 -1 45
14 Bradford City 46 14 16 16 53 60 -7 44
15 Rochdale 46 14 15 17 60 70 -10 43
16 Scunthorpe United 46 11 20 15 60 69 -9 42
17 Torquay United 46 18 5 23 55 63 -8 41
18 Crewe Alexandra 46 13 14 19 48 61 -13 40
19 Port Vale 46 12 15 19 57 70 -13 39
20 Stockport County 46 16 7 23 44 57 -13 39
21 Tranmere Rovers 46 13 10 23 59 73 -14 36
22 Hereford United 46 11 13 22 38 62 -24 35
23 Halifax Town 46 11 12 23 44 71 -27 34
24 York City 46 12 9 25 47 66 -19 33


If he'd matched this raspberry up and made the play offs I think we'd have all been happy with that. ;)

Just think...
If we had beat Wimbledon to that 4th promotion spot rather than flipping up then maybe Wimbledon's historic rise might have been checked or never happened at all. Timing eh!
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:52 pm

I'm assuming 81 points will be enough for automatic promotion, TOP 3 finish.

Current Table
PLD.....W......D.......L......PTS........PPG
12........3.......8.......1........17.........1.42

Required for 81 points
PLD.....W......D......L........PTS.......PPG
34........21.....1......12........64........1.88
34........20.....4......10........64........1.88
34........19.....7.......8.........64........1.88
34........18.....10.....6.........64........1.88
34........17.....13.....4.........64........1.88
34........16.....16.....2.........64........1.88
34........15.....19.....0.........64........1.88

Based on our current PPG 1.42, we would finish on 65 points, which is below the usual 71 points for the play-offs.

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Prior to the game I thought we really need a win, but going down to 10 men meant I was quite happy with the draw, thought CJ was going to score a late winner when he went clean through but the goalie was quick out of his goal.

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:30 pm

I'm assuming 81 points will be enough for automatic promotion, TOP 3 finish.

Current Table
PLD.....W......D.......L......PTS........PPG
13........4.......8.......1........20.........1.54

Required for 81 points
PLD.....W......D......L........PTS.......PPG
33........20.....1......12........61........1.85
33........19.....4......10........61........1.85
33........18.....7.......8.........61........1.85
33........17.....10.....6.........61........1.85
33........16.....13.....4.........61........1.85
33........15.....16.....2.........61........1.85
33........14.....19.....0.........61........1.85

Based on our current PPG 1.54 we would finish on 71 points, which is usually enough for 7th, the last play-off place.

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby bellwhiff » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:59 pm

KirkbyStag2 wrote:I'm assuming 81 points will be enough for automatic promotion, TOP 3 finish.

Current Table
PLD.....W......D.......L......PTS........PPG
13........4.......8.......1........20.........1.54

Required for 81 points
PLD.....W......D......L........PTS.......PPG
33........20.....1......12........61........1.85
33........19.....4......10........61........1.85
33........18.....7.......8.........61........1.85
33........17.....10.....6.........61........1.85
33........16.....13.....4.........61........1.85
33........15.....16.....2.........61........1.85
33........14.....19.....0.........61........1.85

Based on our current PPG 1.54 we would finish on 71 points, which is usually enough for 7th, the last play-off place.

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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby halifaxstag » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:18 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
KirkbyStag2 wrote:I'm assuming 81 points will be enough for automatic promotion, TOP 3 finish.

Current Table
PLD.....W......D.......L......PTS........PPG
13........4.......8.......1........20.........1.54

Required for 81 points
PLD.....W......D......L........PTS.......PPG
33........20.....1......12........61........1.85
33........19.....4......10........61........1.85
33........18.....7.......8.........61........1.85
33........17.....10.....6.........61........1.85
33........16.....13.....4.........61........1.85
33........15.....16.....2.........61........1.85
33........14.....19.....0.........61........1.85

Based on our current PPG 1.54 we would finish on 71 points, which is usually enough for 7th, the last play-off place.

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So we are on track.

Flitcroft our eh.


Just about for the play-offs. Just out of interest, does anyone know of the record number of draws for a promoted team? Would be interesting to get in the range of the bottom 3 or 4 options above just to prove that draws can be important (if frustrating).
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Re: Can Stags finish in the TOP 3 ?

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:14 am

True, but we were about the same at this point last season, and we all know where we were come Feb ;)

Also saw the much vaunted Brown has Swindon 4 places below us, having played 2 more games, won the same number but lost 4 more, and a goal difference 11 worse than us.

So glad JR chooses not to listen to us experts :P
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