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Re: steve evans interview

Postby Conker » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:32 am

DoomMerchant wrote:I couldn't give a crap about whether he wins promotions - his eighteen month record with Mansfield Town reads 0 (zero) promotions.

I don't like him because he's a loathsome individual, a compulsive liar, a specialist in antagonism and a belmer of behemothic standards
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I completely agree with that too :lol:
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby gazza1988 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:57 am

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Amber Andy wrote:Why do I get the impression his CV of promotions are more important than anything else to him ?


He left us because he believed we were already in the play offs and he believed he could get peterborough in the play offs. Long story short he saw an opportunity to claim he got 2 sides in playoffs and/or promoted in one season.

You cannot underestimate this guy's ego.

No he didn’t - he left because he saw an opportunity to manage a bigger club, who were based 5 minutes from his house. It still baffles me how most on stagsnet cannot grasp this concept. The way he did it is the reason I hate him rather than the reason he did it for.


That was a factor too, It's a mix of reasons why he left, don't get too bogged down on a single reason. I can't believe you think he hasn't got a massive ego and didn't consider he would have a claim that he got 2 teams into the play-offs. The fact that it was 5 minutes away from where he lives is part of the long story I shortened down.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:11 am

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Amber Andy wrote:Why do I get the impression his CV of promotions are more important than anything else to him ?


He left us because he believed we were already in the play offs and he believed he could get peterborough in the play offs. Long story short he saw an opportunity to claim he got 2 sides in playoffs and/or promoted in one season.

You cannot underestimate this guy's ego.

Possibly. We were almost certain of promotion, or at worst a playoff, so he had that in the bank. Although Posh were unlikely to follow suit last season, the temptation to move to his home town club and work with a bigger club would have been irresistible. And it should have been two successes in two seasons, assuming Peterborough make it this time.

You are never certain of anything until you'vd cross the line. Teams can easily run into a bad series of results as we did. Maybe the desire to manage at his "dream club", was too much, but the way he left the club for me says a lot about the way he goes about things. Total disrespect for JR, CR, the players, especially the ones he signed and not forgetting us as supporters.

As Edders has quite rightly pointed out, hate is a strong word. I don't hate him, I just think he has been bad for our club. He was full of praise for the Radfords when he was spending their money. But his spend, spend, spend formula is still impacting on the club. We have three highly paid players who will do diddly squat for us this season.

At one point I was warming to him, even to the point, of thinking the bad press was unjustified. But I think a lot of it is justified. He is not disliked because of the promotions but for other reasons.

I agree his results for Peterborough are impressive so far. But he is following the same pattern, by praising the owner ( he got his full wish list, which may be a little dig at JR, who knows ), whilst spending his money.

The "scattergun signings" have worked so far, but it's early days.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby I am Spartacus » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:14 am

My dislike of the man has nothing whatsoever to do with his ability to obtain promotion.

His reputation proceeding his appointment was seen by myself and by many others as the correct one at the time.

My dislike of the man, not hatred, stems from meeting him in person at a behind closed doors friendly many years previously when he was at Crawley. He abused the assistant referee from the first minute, his first words were, ‘You - you c**t, get your f****g flag up, you c**t’. Then proceeded to shout rant and rave at everyone for 90 minutes in the most obnoxious way. The obnoxious odious rotund swine then buggered off before the end so he did not have to shake hands with anyone.

None of the Forest playing staff were impressed, a few of his players weren’t and the officials definitely weren’t.

But because Football is results driven he was tolerated then, I tolerated his appointment and we as Stags fans tolerated his appointment.

At the time, I said I did not like him or his antics though if he got what we all crave, promotion, tolerance would have proved correct.

It is time to forget the past, forget his ‘me, me, attitude’, forget he signed good players but could not get the best out of them (Butcher), forget his side could not hold a lead to the end, forget his arm waving and ranting, forget that like all primary donnas when given a taste of his own behaviour from some of the West Stands finest he did not like it, forget that the loyalty that he espoused means nothing to him (i.e.Danny Rose Saga) and forget that basically he is not a decent person.

Evans is the past and and I can’t see the point of wasting any more of what time we have left watching the Stags in our lifetimes on him.

Ignore him, starve him of the attention he craves and he will undo himself. Then and only then we ought to mention his horrible name.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby Jamie » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:16 am

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Jamie wrote:He's proving again this season that he gets results.

He had us on the brink of the autos, to suggest promotion was increasingly unlikely is just silly.

People only hate him because he left. Other than Rob and a few others most fans were fully behind him right until he left.

He's unconventional, controversial and a few other things but his win record speaks for itself. Most on here are just salty because he ditched us for a bigger club.


I was behind him right up until he left, he was our manager and I wanted him to get us promoted. However, my dislike of him never left just because he became our manager - I guess you are probably not bright enough to realise you can dislike your manager whilst at the same time hoping he brings success to your club. I'm delighted he is no longer our manager, we are spared the embarrassing behaviour, the massive ego and actually the football we play now is much more entertaining. You call Dearden Judas, but defend Evans, you should be embarrassed Jamie.


Many fans didn't like Flitcroft last season (some still dont) but wanted him to win games. Didn't stop you and others crying about it...

I'm not going over Billy again. I'm not defending what he did either, the way he left was very poor. But I don't really hold any issue with why he left. He didn't go to a rival, he went to a bigger club, near to where he lives that he always wanted to manage.

Yes he was embarrassing, odious and a number of other things. People can talk about money all they like but his record is one of the best. Someone mentioned Jose would struggle without money to spend, possibly he would, doesn't change his record or that he's considered one of the best.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby DoomMerchant » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:08 pm

Dearden left because the worst owner in our history didn't give him assurances about his job after performing miracles on a shoestring.

Evans left for another club after the best owner in our history gave him everything that he wanted. His team was expensively assembled and couldn't touch the quality of that Dearden side.

Dearden was a decent man let down by a raspberry. Evans is a raspberry who let down a decent man.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:33 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:Dearden left because the worst owner in our history didn't give him assurances about his job after performing miracles on a shoestring.

Evans left for another club after the best owner in our history gave him everything that he wanted. His team was expensively assembled and couldn't touch the quality of that Dearden side.

Dearden was a decent man let down by a raspberry. Evans is a raspberry who let down a decent man.
Doomy, you are absolutely spot on.

At the end of the day Jamie is entitled to his opinion.

How he has formed that opinion however, to me seems to beyond common sense.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby Sneag » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:40 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:Dearden left because the worst owner in our history didn't give him assurances about his job after performing miracles on a shoestring.

Evans left for another club after the best owner in our history gave him everything that he wanted. His team was expensively assembled and couldn't touch the quality of that Dearden side.

Dearden was a decent man let down by a raspberry. Evans is a raspberry who let down a decent man.
Doomy, you are absolutely spot on.

At the end of the day Jamie is entitled to his opinion.

How he has formed that opinion however, to me seems to beyond common sense.


He's entitled to it Andy, but he's always going to be wrong. ;)
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby Big yella » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:06 pm

Rob wrote:
Jamie wrote:He's proving again this season that he gets results.

He had us on the brink of the autos, to suggest promotion was increasingly unlikely is just silly.

People only hate him because he left. Other than Rob and a few others most fans were fully behind him right until he left.

He's unconventional, controversial and a few other things but his win record speaks for itself. Most on here are just salty because he ditched us for a bigger club.


I was behind him right up until he left, he was our manager and I wanted him to get us promoted. However, my dislike of him never left just because he became our manager - I guess you are probably not bright enough to realise you can dislike your manager whilst at the same time hoping he brings success to your club. I'm delighted he is no longer our manager, we are spared the embarrassing behaviour, the massive ego and actually the football we play now is much more entertaining. You call Dearden Judas, but defend Evans, you should be embarrassed Jamie.

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Re: steve evans interview

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:08 pm

Jamie wrote:He's proving again this season that he gets results.

He had us on the brink of the autos, to suggest promotion was increasingly unlikely is just silly.

People only hate him because he left. Other than Rob and a few others most fans were fully behind him right until he left.

He's unconventional, controversial and a few other things but his win record speaks for itself. Most on here are just salty because he ditched us for a bigger club.

Utter crap as usual. I think most people held their noses over his tenure at the club. You just like being Captain Contrary and poking the ants nest. There’s a word for that.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:13 pm

Rob wrote:
Jamie wrote:He's proving again this season that he gets results.

He had us on the brink of the autos, to suggest promotion was increasingly unlikely is just silly.

People only hate him because he left. Other than Rob and a few others most fans were fully behind him right until he left.

He's unconventional, controversial and a few other things but his win record speaks for itself. Most on here are just salty because he ditched us for a bigger club.


I was behind him right up until he left, he was our manager and I wanted him to get us promoted. However, my dislike of him never left just because he became our manager - I guess you are probably not bright enough to realise you can dislike your manager whilst at the same time hoping he brings success to your club. I'm delighted he is no longer our manager, we are spared the embarrassing behaviour, the massive ego and actually the football we play now is much more entertaining. You call Dearden Judas, but defend Evans, you should be embarrassed Jamie.


Good point. How do you juxtapose the two situations Jamie Lad?
Just another example of you just wanting to push buttons on here.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby Jamie » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:10 pm

Dearden left for a rival. Evans didn't. Simple as that... I know there were other things at play when Billy went but he left for a rival who were bottom of what is now L1 and who were in as bad a state off the pitch as us, in fact worse as they were under a transfer embargo... He left because Haslam wouldn't give him a new deal. A deal that he would certainty have got when the job was done, ie after promotion. To make matters worse he came back to work for him again...

I've got nothing more to say about Dearden. He's a judas. Evans is just a greedy ego driven plonker, but a successful one
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:47 pm

Jamie wrote:Dearden left for a rival. Evans didn't. Simple as that... I know there were other things at play when Billy went but he left for a rival who were bottom of what is now L1 and who were in as bad a state off the pitch as us, in fact worse as they were under a transfer embargo... He left because Haslam wouldn't give him a new deal. A deal that he would certainty have got when the job was done, ie after promotion. To make matters worse he came back to work for him again...

I've got nothing more to say about Dearden. He's a judas. Evans is just a greedy ego driven plonker, but a successful one


To call, and to continue to call, Billy Deardon a Judas, makes you look stupid.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby StagsFan83 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:48 pm

Love it hate it, Peterborough will go up and they have made a profit this transfer window after the sale for £6million for Jack Marriott
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby cassellswasmagic » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:50 pm

Dearden had no real choice. Utterly embarrassed for someone calling Billy Judas. Wow. Now Evans!!!
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby bobbystagsfan » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:58 pm

StagsFan83 wrote:Love it hate it, Peterborough will go up and they have made a profit this transfer window after the sale for £6million for Jack Marriott



wonder what will happen when a championship team have a vacant managers slot. Perhaps he'll go for a job interview in Australia and end up at Stoke :lol:
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:59 pm

Haha. Jamie. Such a massive clown.

Left for a rival.

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Re: steve evans interview

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:20 pm

Jamie wrote:Dearden left for a rival. Evans didn't. Simple as that... I know there were other things at play when Billy went but he left for a rival who were bottom of what is now L1 and who were in as bad a state off the pitch as us, in fact worse as they were under a transfer embargo... He left because Haslam wouldn't give him a new deal. A deal that he would certainty have got when the job was done, ie after promotion. To make matters worse he came back to work for him again...

I've got nothing more to say about Dearden. He's a judas. Evans is just a greedy ego driven plonker, but a successful one

Jamie, Bill Dearden is always welcomed when he comes back to The One Call.

Do you think Mr "Walkaway" will be ?

Surely that is the test.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby bellwhiff » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:51 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
Jamie wrote:Dearden left for a rival. Evans didn't. Simple as that... I know there were other things at play when Billy went but he left for a rival who were bottom of what is now L1 and who were in as bad a state off the pitch as us, in fact worse as they were under a transfer embargo... He left because Haslam wouldn't give him a new deal. A deal that he would certainty have got when the job was done, ie after promotion. To make matters worse he came back to work for him again...

I've got nothing more to say about Dearden. He's a judas. Evans is just a greedy ego driven plonker, but a successful one

Jamie, Bill Dearden is always welcomed when he comes back to The One Call.

Do you think Mr "Walkaway" will be ?

Surely that is the test.

Don’t bother. I’m now convinced that he’s just a troll.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby MutinyOnTheCounty » Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:39 pm

Jamie wrote:Dearden left for a rival. Evans didn't. Simple as that... I know there were other things at play when Billy went but he left for a rival who were bottom of what is now L1 and who were in as bad a state off the pitch as us, in fact worse as they were under a transfer embargo... He left because Haslam wouldn't give him a new deal. A deal that he would certainty have got when the job was done, ie after promotion. To make matters worse he came back to work for him again...

I've got nothing more to say about Dearden. He's a judas. Evans is just a greedy ego driven plonker, but a successful one


Brilliant attempt at trying to sound insincere, Jamie ;)

Your opinion bud, but if you believe any of that guff you make Leonardo Di Caprio in Shutter Island seem totally compos mentis :P
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby garlic » Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:45 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:I couldn't give a crap about whether he wins promotions - his eighteen month record with Mansfield Town reads 0 (zero) promotions.

I don't like him because he's a loathsome individual, a compulsive liar, a specialist in antagonism and a belmer of behemothic standards.

Could not have put it better myself.
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:44 pm

garlic wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:I couldn't give a crap about whether he wins promotions - his eighteen month record with Mansfield Town reads 0 (zero) promotions.

I don't like him because he's a loathsome individual, a compulsive liar, a specialist in antagonism and a belmer of behemothic standards.

Could not have put it better myself.


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Re: steve evans interview

Postby bellwhiff » Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:09 am

EdwinstoweStag wrote:
garlic wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:I couldn't give a crap about whether he wins promotions - his eighteen month record with Mansfield Town reads 0 (zero) promotions.

I don't like him because he's a loathsome individual, a compulsive liar, a specialist in antagonism and a belmer of behemothic standards.

Could not have put it better myself.


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Re: steve evans interview

Postby EdwinstoweStag » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:49 pm

bellwhiff wrote:
EdwinstoweStag wrote:
garlic wrote:
DoomMerchant wrote:I couldn't give a crap about whether he wins promotions - his eighteen month record with Mansfield Town reads 0 (zero) promotions.

I don't like him because he's a loathsome individual, a compulsive liar, a specialist in antagonism and a belmer of behemothic standards.

Could not have put it better myself.


Behemothic - the word of the day. Well done garlic!

Well done who ?


Sorry. Well done Doomy!
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Re: steve evans interview

Postby tillydog123 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:14 pm

Love him or hate him he does get results and is big name in our level of football
Can see why Radfords went for him
Big of course being the operative word
He is odious devious and cocky and he did give things a buzz here but Judas to the core and knows it and loves it .
He will win promotion this season of that I have no doubt but the ilk and honesty of Flitcroft is better for the club in its current position BUT whether he will get us any further this season Iam still not 100 % sure
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