FRT Final 1987

[Sneag]

At a loose end last night so watched this again.

Some things struck me that I never really considered before. There was only one dive in the who game when Joe Jordan went down fairly easily looking for a pen at the death. George Foster beasted Jordan for 2 hours.
As far as I could tell from the extended highlights I have, the ref only booked one player in the 120 minutes, there are several tackles in the game that would be straight reds today and both sides would have had half a dozen players booked.
The quality of play from both sides is quite poor, there are some good swift counter attacks, but the range of passing the pkayers have is quite poor. I don't think Mark Kearney hits a single ball accurately until he slots his pen.
Back passes to the keeper in old vids always surprise me when they casually pick it up. Both keepers also had pretty comfortable games.

I suppose it just struck me overall how much football has changed in 30 years. Players are faster, fitter and more skillful, but as soft as clarts compared to their 80s counterparts.

One thing that was still the same was at 1-0 Stags had some great chances to kill the game off, then conceded a late equaliser after some sloppy defending.

[part time pete]

With players moving faster it only takes the slightest nudge and they lose their balance and fall over, just a consequence of the laws of physics.

[cassellswasmagic]

With players moving faster it only takes the slightest nudge and they lose their balance and fall over, just a consequence of the laws of physics.

True in most cases!!!
80s football was good but watching back it looks painfully slow.
I remember Grobalaar constantly rolling the ball out to Hansen, who passed it to Lawro who passed it back to Grobalaar....who repeated the move...boring.

[bellwhiff]

The sport has revolutionised in terms of fitness and skill. I’ve watched back a couple of old First Division games and it’s like watching a Sunday Morning pub game.

[Amber Andy]

At a loose end last night so watched this again.

Some things struck me that I never really considered before. There was only one dive in the who game when Joe Jordan went down fairly easily looking for a pen at the death. George Foster beasted Jordan for 2 hours.
As far as I could tell from the extended highlights I have, the ref only booked one player in the 120 minutes, there are several tackles in the game that would be straight reds today and both sides would have had half a dozen players booked.
The quality of play from both sides is quite poor, there are some good swift counter attacks, but the range of passing the pkayers have is quite poor. I don't think Mark Kearney hits a single ball accurately until he slots his pen.
Back passes to the keeper in old vids always surprise me when they casually pick it up. Both keepers also had pretty comfortable games.

I suppose it just struck me overall how much football has changed in 30 years. Players are faster, fitter and more skillful, but as soft as clarts compared to their 80s counterparts.

One thing that was still the same was at 1-0 Stags had some great chances to kill the game off, then conceded a late equaliser after some sloppy defending.

You could well be correct, but I still want to remember it wearing "rose coloured spectacles".

One of our greatest days, we don't have many.

Cassells running himself into the ground, Foster winning an incredible battle with Jordan and the penalties. Great memories.

[Sneag]

The sport has revolutionised in terms of fitness and skill. I’ve watched back a couple of old First Division games and it’s like watching a Sunday Morning pub game.

A classic if you can find it on youtube is the 1970FA Cup final replay between Leeds & Chelsea. Some of the tackles were worthy of Anvil v Squinting Cat c1982.

[cassellswasmagic]

The sport has revolutionised in terms of fitness and skill. I’ve watched back a couple of old First Division games and it’s like watching a Sunday Morning pub game.

A classic if you can find it on youtube is the 1970FA Cup final replay between Leeds & Chelsea. Some of the tackles were worthy of Anvil v Squinting Cat c1982.

Used to watch Squinting Cat quite often when I was younger. They were good weren’t they Sneag?

[abc]

With players moving faster it only takes the slightest nudge and they lose their balance and fall over, just a consequence of the laws of physics.

True in most cases!!!
80s football was good but watching back it looks painfully slow.
I remember Grobalaar constantly rolling the ball out to Hansen, who passed it to Lawro who passed it back to Grobalaar....who repeated the move...boring.

What's slower than watching Arsenal or Man City passing it sideways and back constantly, scared of losing possession . Regarding falling over that's a disease that foreign players have brought with them.

[Parkinsons Perm]

With players moving faster it only takes the slightest nudge and they lose their balance and fall over, just a consequence of the laws of physics.

True in most cases!!!
80s football was good but watching back it looks painfully slow.
I remember Grobalaar constantly rolling the ball out to Hansen, who passed it to Lawro who passed it back to Grobalaar....who repeated the move...boring.

What's slower than watching Arsenal or Man City passing it sideways and back constantly, scared of losing possession . Regarding falling over that's a disease that foreign players have brought with them.

You need to Google Francis Lee, may even have some of his 'dives'

[DURHAM STAG]

Well done for watching it again. I still get nervous watching the penalties, in case we lose !

Another point was that, despite the green playing surface, it was very heavy and energy sapping after 120 minutes. Keith Cassells could hardly walk to the penalty spot, let alone take a penalty. Worked out ok in the end though.

[Sneag]

The sport has revolutionised in terms of fitness and skill. I’ve watched back a couple of old First Division games and it’s like watching a Sunday Morning pub game.

A classic if you can find it on youtube is the 1970FA Cup final replay between Leeds & Chelsea. Some of the tackles were worthy of Anvil v Squinting Cat c1982.

Used to watch Squinting Cat quite often when I was younger. They were good weren’t they Sneag?

They were good, but not shy about a two footed lunge.

[Empty FC]

Oooooh. What about Stringys header that nearly broke the crossbar.
Great day out. .. Hope we can do that again. (forget the Darlo game, I have).

[ST4GS]

The sport has revolutionised in terms of fitness and skill. I’ve watched back a couple of old First Division games and it’s like watching a Sunday Morning pub game.

You are not wrong. Pitch surface technology is also a big factor and the tackling or non tackling law changes have cut out all the argy bargy. I watched the 1966 WC final recently and thought my playback had slowed.

[abc]

With players moving faster it only takes the slightest nudge and they lose their balance and fall over, just a consequence of the laws of physics.

True in most cases!!!
80s football was good but watching back it looks painfully slow.
I remember Grobalaar constantly rolling the ball out to Hansen, who passed it to Lawro who passed it back to Grobalaar....who repeated the move...boring.

What's slower than watching Arsenal or Man City passing it sideways and back constantly, scared of losing possession . Regarding falling over that's a disease that foreign players have brought with them.

You need to Google Francis Lee, may even have some of his 'dives'

No need to google Franny Lee but that's exactly why because he was unique at the time.

[Field Mill]

Interesting post Sneag. The thing That always brings it home to me is watching the 66 World Cup Final.it looks like slow motion. That said,great players would have been great players in any eta.