Think were buying into ,flitcroft

[yellowstagsfan]

As some have said before only fat man to blame for the capitulation of three clubs last season!!!

Fat man going to struggle this season I think Peterborough 0 Bolton 2 Some of his better players been sold

[yellowstagsfan]

As some have said before only fat man to blame for the capitulation of three clubs last season!!!

Fat man going to struggle this season. Some of his better players sold. Peterborough 0 Bolton 2

[EdwinstoweStag]

As some have said before only fat man to blame for the capitulation of three clubs last season!!!

Fat man going to struggle this season. Some of his better players sold. Peterborough 0 Bolton 2

He’ll be sacked before the end of the season

[MutinyOnTheCounty]

Correction Tippy, YOUR expectation is we must finish top 3 next season!

The expectation of JR is top 3 but he's playing it down this season having learnt from last year.

I think I must have missed where he said this, Tappy.

For me, I've always maintained that as long as the club make progress each year, then I'm satisfied with where our destiny lies. I'd hope we get promoted, but don't demand it given all that's happened and the constraints in place

[Amber Andy]

As some have said before only fat man to blame for the capitulation of three clubs last season!!!

Fat man going to struggle this season. Some of his better players sold. Peterborough 0 Bolton 2

He’ll be sacked before the end of the season

My guess is he will walk away to a club he has always wanted to manage.

[m1cksut]

on reflection, i think that when DF got here, he realised that we weren't good enough to go up automatically, and would be soundly thrashed in the play offs, so used the last 12 games as a sounding board, to see who could do what, and what he needed to do for the next season.

Are you for real ?

Yes. Are you not?

[abc]

on reflection, i think that when DF got here, he realised that we weren't good enough to go up automatically, and would be soundly thrashed in the play offs, so used the last 12 games as a sounding board, to see who could do what, and what he needed to do for the next season.

Are you for real ?

Yes. Are you not?

Over the season we had beaten all four teams in the play offs but you stick with your little fairytale if you so wish.

[Amber Andy]

on reflection, i think that when DF got here, he realised that we weren't good enough to go up automatically, and would be soundly thrashed in the play offs, so used the last 12 games as a sounding board, to see who could do what, and what he needed to do for the next season.

Are you for real ?

Yes. Are you not?

Over the season we had beaten all four teams in the play offs but you stick with your little fairytale if you so wish.

Micksut may have a point abc. I think the "walk away" manager realised something similar and that was why he went. We were rapidly running out of steam. A football season is a marathon not a sprint.

[Sneag]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

[gazza1988]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

Sneag, Evans heavily rotated his squad. Every game saw a change in the starting XI (there may have been an occasion when he kept the same team not 100%). From what I understand training was bare minimum. I don't think Evans left his successor a step by step programme on how he went about managing us. So how can Flitcroft "just carry on" if he doesn't know how Evans went about managing us?

Let's be honest here. If you started a managers job and your remit was to "do what the last guy did"? Could you gain the respect of the people under you if you were forever asking what the last guy did next?

How could you get the players to listen to you if you come across as clueless?

The facts are Evans went to China to manage Peterborough, we raided Swindon for Flitcroft and all 3 teams promising seasons capitulated. Ourselves and Swindon were in the play offs.

The only time that a managerial change like that works is when fighting relegation. Not in or around the play offs.

My belief is that Evans orchestrated this move. He heard mcgann was under pressure and spoke to Fry and he tried to leave and save Peterborough money by resigning so they don't have to pay compensation, which failed.

I don't think Evans felt we wouldn't make it, as such. I felt he wanted a big ego massage and thought he could get Peterborough in the play off and if we gained promotion he could say he got 2 teams promoted in one season. Its all about the ego.

[Sneag]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

Sneag, Evans heavily rotated his squad. Every game saw a change in the starting XI (there may have been an occasion when he kept the same team not 100%). From what I understand training was bare minimum. I don't think Evans left his successor a step by step programme on how he went about managing us. So how can Flitcroft "just carry on" if he doesn't know how Evans went about managing us?

Let's be honest here. If you started a managers job and your remit was to "do what the last guy did"? Could you gain the respect of the people under you if you were forever asking what the last guy did next?

How could you get the players to listen to you if you come across as clueless?

The facts are Evans went to China to manage Peterborough, we raided Swindon for Flitcroft and all 3 teams promising seasons capitulated. Ourselves and Swindon were in the play offs.

The only time that a managerial change like that works is when fighting relegation. Not in or around the play offs.

My belief is that Evans orchestrated this move. He heard mcgann was under pressure and spoke to Fry and he tried to leave and save Peterborough money by resigning so they don't have to pay compensation, which failed.

I don't think Evans felt we wouldn't make it, as such. I felt he wanted a big ego massage and thought he could get Peterborough in the play off and if we gained promotion he could say he got 2 teams promoted in one season. Its all about the ego.

I think you are 100% right about Evans' motives.

In DFs boots I would have had a meeting with the senior pros at the club to see just what I was inheriting, now it appears that DF may have done that and didn't like what they said or their general attitude which is why most of those senior pros ended up on the transfer list. But I still maintain the time to rip up the playbook was May not March.

[bellwhiff]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

Sneag, Evans heavily rotated his squad. Every game saw a change in the starting XI (there may have been an occasion when he kept the same team not 100%). From what I understand training was bare minimum. I don't think Evans left his successor a step by step programme on how he went about managing us. So how can Flitcroft "just carry on" if he doesn't know how Evans went about managing us?

Let's be honest here. If you started a managers job and your remit was to "do what the last guy did"? Could you gain the respect of the people under you if you were forever asking what the last guy did next?

How could you get the players to listen to you if you come across as clueless?

The facts are Evans went to China to manage Peterborough, we raided Swindon for Flitcroft and all 3 teams promising seasons capitulated. Ourselves and Swindon were in the play offs.

The only time that a managerial change like that works is when fighting relegation. Not in or around the play offs.

My belief is that Evans orchestrated this move. He heard mcgann was under pressure and spoke to Fry and he tried to leave and save Peterborough money by resigning so they don't have to pay compensation, which failed.

I don't think Evans felt we wouldn't make it, as such. I felt he wanted a big ego massage and thought he could get Peterborough in the play off and if we gained promotion he could say he got 2 teams promoted in one season. Its all about the ego.

Good post but I think it’s slighty wrong. I don’t think Evans thought we were running out of steam. I think he just plain didn’t care one way or the other. He just thought of himself. That’s it.

[m1cksut]

on reflection, i think that when DF got here, he realised that we weren't good enough to go up automatically, and would be soundly thrashed in the play offs, so used the last 12 games as a sounding board, to see who could do what, and what he needed to do for the next season.

Are you for real ?

Yes. Are you not?

Over the season we had beaten all four teams in the play offs but you stick with your little fairytale if you so wish.

yeah, yeah, and in the past we had beaten west ham 3-0, didnt make us a first division team, did it?

[Amber Andy]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

I think the Coventry game was the clincher in his decision to walk away. Coupled with the difficult games Accrington, Lincoln and Notts that where looming.

But only he will know the real reason.

[EdwinstoweStag]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

I think the Coventry game was the clincher in his decision to walk away. Coupled with the difficult games Accrington, Lincoln and Notts that where looming.

But only he will know the real reason.

That fat piece of slime was slithering about looking for his move a long time before that (IMHO)

[abc]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

I think the Coventry game was the clincher in his decision to walk away. Coupled with the difficult games Accrington, Lincoln and Notts that where looming.

But only he will know the real reason.

That fat piece of slime was slithering about looking for his move a long time before that (IMHO)

I think you're spot on with that.

[Amber Andy]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

I think the Coventry game was the clincher in his decision to walk away. Coupled with the difficult games Accrington, Lincoln and Notts that where looming.

But only he will know the real reason.

That fat piece of slime was slithering about looking for his move a long time before that (IMHO)

You are probably right Edders, but I think the Coventry game was "decision day".

[abc]

on reflection, i think that when DF got here, he realised that we weren't good enough to go up automatically, and would be soundly thrashed in the play offs, so used the last 12 games as a sounding board, to see who could do what, and what he needed to do for the next season.

Are you for real ?

Yes. Are you not?

Over the season we had beaten all four teams in the play offs but you stick with your little fairytale if you so wish.

yeah, yeah, and in the past we had beaten west ham 3-0, didnt make us a first division team, did it?

It's like reasoning with a naughty 4 year old.

[bellwhiff]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

I think the Coventry game was the clincher in his decision to walk away. Coupled with the difficult games Accrington, Lincoln and Notts that where looming.

But only he will know the real reason.

Greed. Nothing more and nothing less. The man is an amoral weasel

[cassellswasmagic]

I don’t think he’s even a good manager. Devious and lucky, but not good. The football was average with HIS players. The football under DF will be better.

[MutinyOnTheCounty]

I think you are 100% right about Evans' motives.

In DFs boots I would have had a meeting with the senior pros at the club to see just what I was inheriting, now it appears that DF may have done that and didn't like what they said or their general attitude which is why most of those senior pros ended up on the transfer list. But I still maintain the time to rip up the playbook was May not March.

My only reservation with that Sneagy, is that if DF waits till May it creates 2 problems. Firstly, he has little insight until too late about which players can adapt to his systems and work ethic. Secondly, perhaps there were contractual clauses if he'd wanted rid if we got promoted, or it would have been harder to justify to the fans / owner why he wanted wholesale changes?

I've always said DF's remit was never likely to be 'do nothing new', otherwise someone internal to the club would do the job and you'd save a load of wedge not stuffing £1000's into Swindon's coffers.

Let's hope the fans give DF a fair crack of the whip, but also hope he doesn't need to call in that favour

[m1cksut]

Over the season we had beaten all four teams in the play offs but you stick with your little fairytale if you so wish.

yeah, yeah, and in the past we had beaten west ham 3-0, didnt make us a first division team, did it?[/quote]

It's like reasoning with a naughty 4 year old.[/quote][/quote]

dont put yourself down, you must be at least 11!

[daddycool]

We were top of the current form table when fatso left, so I'm not sure where the idea comes from that we were running out of steam.

Last seasons collapse was 50% disruption caused by Evans leaving and 50% Flitcroft dicking about with the teams style and training methods when he didn't need to.

However IF we go up this year, DFs part in that failure will be forgiven and forgotten whereas Evans will always be hated here.

I think the Coventry game was the clincher in his decision to walk away. Coupled with the difficult games Accrington, Lincoln and Notts that where looming.

But only he will know the real reason.

Greed. Nothing more and nothing less. The man is an amoral weasel

Agree with wiff 100%. Evans only thinks of himself and money

[Captain Cunno]

Evans will be getting his excuses in already.
Marriott sold
Not given the money
Shoppin at Lidl
Blah blah blah

[bobbystagsfan]

Evans will be getting his excuses in already.
Marriott sold
Not given the money
Shoppin at Lidl
Blah blah blah

have they sold Maddison aswell?