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Checkatrade Draw

Postby KirkbyStag2 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:32 pm

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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Bradders » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:08 pm

Bit disappointing that there will still be an Under 21 side in the group. That will knock the attendances back a lot.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Foresttownstag » Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:43 am

Bradders wrote:Bit disappointing that there will still be an Under 21 side in the group. That will knock the attendances back a lot.


Yep. I for one shall not be attending.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:41 am

Here we go again.

The elite under 21's are going to take our place in the Football League.

Yawn.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Spiritater » Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:44 am

Who have Chesterfailed got in their group? ... ooh hang on a mo :hysteria:







What would they give though to be still in that particular draw :D
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Richard Cranium » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:55 am

Amber Andy wrote:Here we go again.

The elite under 21's are going to take our place in the Football League.

Yawn.


You been reading your posts back?
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Amber Andy » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:40 pm

I bet Lincoln fans don't have the same apathy about this competition.

It afforded their club mega bucks last season. The prize money plus merchandise sales for the Wembley trip is substantial.

More than likely the reason they outbid us for Freclington, the type of midfielder that could have got us over the line last season. And the reason they had the money to buy Akinde.

Top clubs under 21sides taking over the Football League is "fake news".
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Dan » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:13 am

They didn’t outbid us for Frecklington, he was always going ‘home’ to Lincoln.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:42 am

Dan wrote:They didn’t outbid us for Frecklington, he was always going ‘home’ to Lincoln.

Not too sure about that, but we couldn't afford Akinde, yet they pay the fee for him and a big three year contract.

They also made a mint out of the competition, fact.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby bellwhiff » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:57 am

Amber Andy wrote:
Dan wrote:They didn’t outbid us for Frecklington, he was always going ‘home’ to Lincoln.

Not too sure about that, but we couldn't afford Akinde, yet they pay the fee for him and a big three year contract.

They also made a mint out of the competition, fact.


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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby edwinscott » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:33 am

Making an assumption that we wanted Akinde! Looking at the pre season videos the ball is on the floor a lot more he would not necessarily suit our style.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Amber Andy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:38 am

edwinscott wrote:Making an assumption that we wanted Akinde! Looking at the pre season videos the ball is on the floor a lot more he would not necessarily suit our style.

It has been said that the "walk away manager" tried to sign Akinde last season, but we couldn't afford him.

We rely too much on JR putting his hand in his pocket.

If some did not believe the "fake news" and supported the team in all competitions it would go some way to show JR we are doing our bit.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Conker » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:24 am

Amber Andy wrote:
edwinscott wrote:Making an assumption that we wanted Akinde! Looking at the pre season videos the ball is on the floor a lot more he would not necessarily suit our style.

It has been said that the "walk away manager" tried to sign Akinde last season, but we couldn't afford him.

We rely too much on JR putting his hand in his pocket.

If some did not believe the "fake news" and supported the team in all competitions it would go some way to show JR we are doing our bit.


Maybe JR should cut his cloth accordingly then, he’s not stupid enough to rely on doing well in this absolute shambles of a competition.


Akinde was worth double and then some last summer compared to what Lincoln paid.

Lincoln argument is flawed considering we have a bigger budget than them and blew them out of the water with Walker.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby DoomMerchant » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:43 am

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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Mr Grimsdale » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:54 am

Dan wrote:They didn’t outbid us for Frecklington, he was always going ‘home’ to Lincoln.



Correct, he said it in an interview, and Evans put out some rubbish about being outbid or some other fake news about not really wanting him.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:36 pm

Conker wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
edwinscott wrote:Making an assumption that we wanted Akinde! Looking at the pre season videos the ball is on the floor a lot more he would not necessarily suit our style.

It has been said that the "walk away manager" tried to sign Akinde last season, but we couldn't afford him.

We rely too much on JR putting his hand in his pocket.

If some did not believe the "fake news" and supported the team in all competitions it would go some way to show JR we are doing our bit.


Maybe JR should cut his cloth accordingly then, he’s not stupid enough to rely on doing well in this absolute shambles of a competition.


Akinde was worth double and then some last summer compared to what Lincoln paid.

Lincoln argument is flawed considering we have a bigger budget than them and blew them out of the water with Walker.

Don't kid yourself. Forest are doing us a favour with Walker.

Also Akinde is a proven goal scorer at our level. Walker has not yet been tested at league 2 level.

Unlike us there is a momentum about Lincoln built on promotion and cup success. This has resulted in much more season ticket sales when compared to us.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby stagsfan6493 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:01 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
Conker wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
edwinscott wrote:Making an assumption that we wanted Akinde! Looking at the pre season videos the ball is on the floor a lot more he would not necessarily suit our style.

It has been said that the "walk away manager" tried to sign Akinde last season, but we couldn't afford him.

We rely too much on JR putting his hand in his pocket.

If some did not believe the "fake news" and supported the team in all competitions it would go some way to show JR we are doing our bit.


Maybe JR should cut his cloth accordingly then, he’s not stupid enough to rely on doing well in this absolute shambles of a competition.


Akinde was worth double and then some last summer compared to what Lincoln paid.

Lincoln argument is flawed considering we have a bigger budget than them and blew them out of the water with Walker.

Don't kid yourself. Forest are doing us a favour with Walker.

Also Akinde is a proven goal scorer at our level. Walker has not yet been tested at league 2 level.

Unlike us there is a momentum about Lincoln built on promotion and cup success. This has resulted in much more season ticket sales when compared to us.


Didn't realise winning the checkatrade trophy meant we would get 9000 through the gate every week, we best try and win it this time :roll:
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:22 pm

stagsfan6493 wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
Conker wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
edwinscott wrote:Making an assumption that we wanted Akinde! Looking at the pre season videos the ball is on the floor a lot more he would not necessarily suit our style.

It has been said that the "walk away manager" tried to sign Akinde last season, but we couldn't afford him.

We rely too much on JR putting his hand in his pocket.

If some did not believe the "fake news" and supported the team in all competitions it would go some way to show JR we are doing our bit.


Maybe JR should cut his cloth accordingly then, he’s not stupid enough to rely on doing well in this absolute shambles of a competition.


Akinde was worth double and then some last summer compared to what Lincoln paid.

Lincoln argument is flawed considering we have a bigger budget than them and blew them out of the water with Walker.

Don't kid yourself. Forest are doing us a favour with Walker.

Also Akinde is a proven goal scorer at our level. Walker has not yet been tested at league 2 level.

Unlike us there is a momentum about Lincoln built on promotion and cup success. This has resulted in much more season ticket sales when compared to us.


Didn't realise winning the checkatrade trophy meant we would get 9000 through the gate every week, we best try and win it this time :roll:
Of course it won't. But some fans will have bought season tickets, who otherwise wouldn't have done on the back of a Wembly win and the feel good factor it brings.

I agree with your final comment though.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Conker » Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:33 pm

Amber Andy wrote:
Conker wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
edwinscott wrote:Making an assumption that we wanted Akinde! Looking at the pre season videos the ball is on the floor a lot more he would not necessarily suit our style.

It has been said that the "walk away manager" tried to sign Akinde last season, but we couldn't afford him.

We rely too much on JR putting his hand in his pocket.

If some did not believe the "fake news" and supported the team in all competitions it would go some way to show JR we are doing our bit.


Maybe JR should cut his cloth accordingly then, he’s not stupid enough to rely on doing well in this absolute shambles of a competition.


Akinde was worth double and then some last summer compared to what Lincoln paid.

Lincoln argument is flawed considering we have a bigger budget than them and blew them out of the water with Walker.

Don't kid yourself. Forest are doing us a favour with Walker.

Also Akinde is a proven goal scorer at our level. Walker has not yet been tested at league 2 level.

Unlike us there is a momentum about Lincoln built on promotion and cup success. This has resulted in much more season ticket sales when compared to us.


Sorry mate but you are the only one kidding ya Sen.

Let’s not change the subject, Mansfield have a bigger budget and beat Lincoln to Walker (and Angol last year) so whatever your point is it does not hold up.

Why you started going on about one being proven and the other not is anybody guess - this was a discussion that had nothing to do with the actual pedigree of the players.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Amber Andy » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:33 pm

Conker wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
Conker wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:
edwinscott wrote:Making an assumption that we wanted Akinde! Looking at the pre season videos the ball is on the floor a lot more he would not necessarily suit our style.

It has been said that the "walk away manager" tried to sign Akinde last season, but we couldn't afford him.

We rely too much on JR putting his hand in his pocket.

If some did not believe the "fake news" and supported the team in all competitions it would go some way to show JR we are doing our bit.


Maybe JR should cut his cloth accordingly then, he’s not stupid enough to rely on doing well in this absolute shambles of a competition.


Akinde was worth double and then some last summer compared to what Lincoln paid.

Lincoln argument is flawed considering we have a bigger budget than them and blew them out of the water with Walker.

Don't kid yourself. Forest are doing us a favour with Walker.

Also Akinde is a proven goal scorer at our level. Walker has not yet been tested at league 2 level.

Unlike us there is a momentum about Lincoln built on promotion and cup success. This has resulted in much more season ticket sales when compared to us.


Sorry mate but you are the only one kidding ya Sen.

Let’s not change the subject, Mansfield have a bigger budget and beat Lincoln to Walker (and Angol last year) so whatever your point is it does not hold up.

Why you started going on about one being proven and the other not is anybody guess - this was a discussion that had nothing to do with the actual pedigree of the players.
The decision surely for signing a goalscorer is to score goals. I'm puzzled,why do you think Walker was signed ?

My point is that Akinde is a proven goal scorer at league 2 (64 league 2 goals).

Walker could well be a better player than Akinde ( I'm pleased we signed him ) but so far has only scored three goals at league 2 level.

The other thing that puzzles me, is how yo know what the playing budgets are for Lincoln and Mansfield.

Which brings me back to the original point, if fans decide not to attend matches it means JR has to put his hand in his pocket more often

However, Lincoln's run in the Checkatrade trophy all the way to the final earned them a small fortune and generated season ticket sales.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Tippy Tappy Football » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:02 am

The B Teams this season are:

Northern Section
Invited Clubs:
1. Everton U21
2. Leicester City U21
3. Manchester City U21
4. Middlesbrough U21
5. Newcastle United U21
6. Stoke City U21
7. West Bromwich Albion U21
8. Wolverhampton Wanderers U21

Southern Clubs
1. Arsenal U21
2. Brighton & Hove Albion U21
3. Chelsea U21
4. Fulham U21
5. Southampton U21
6. Swansea City U21
7. Tottenham Hotspur U21
8. West Ham United U21

Southampton U21s will not be in Portsmouth's group and Newcastle United U21s will not be in Sunderland's group on police advice.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Rob » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:13 am

Amber Andy wrote:My point is that Akinde is a proven goal scorer at league 2 (64 league 2 goals).

Walker could well be a better player than Akinde ( I'm pleased we signed him ) but so far has only scored three goals at league 2 level.

The other thing that puzzles me, is how yo know what the playing budgets are for Lincoln and Mansfield.

Which brings me back to the original point, if fans decide not to attend matches it means JR has to put his hand in his pocket more often

However, Lincoln's run in the Checkatrade trophy all the way to the final earned them a small fortune and generated season ticket sales.


In terms of budgets my guess would be we are similar to Lincoln, however, where we differ is Lincoln have made the money from success on the field whereas ours comes from our owner. Taking the Checkatrade competition seriously has provided them with serious finance and means they can continue to compete with us. Pretty sure we'd rather money be generated by the club rather than its owner as there will come a time when we can no longer rely on his generosity.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Conker » Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:25 am

It’s common sense to figure out our budget is bigger, bigger squad, beat them to Angol and Walker, spending spree last summer etc.

Lincoln definitely have spending power and rightly so but due to JR backing we have more.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby Amber Andy » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:24 am

Rob wrote:
Amber Andy wrote:My point is that Akinde is a proven goal scorer at league 2 (64 league 2 goals).

Walker could well be a better player than Akinde ( I'm pleased we signed him ) but so far has only scored three goals at league 2 level.

The other thing that puzzles me, is how yo know what the playing budgets are for Lincoln and Mansfield.

Which brings me back to the original point, if fans decide not to attend matches it means JR has to put his hand in his pocket more often

However, Lincoln's run in the Checkatrade trophy all the way to the final earned them a small fortune and generated season ticket sales.


In terms of budgets my guess would be we are similar to Lincoln, however, where we differ is Lincoln have made the money from success on the field whereas ours comes from our owner. Taking the Checkatrade competition seriously has provided them with serious finance and means they can continue to compete with us. Pretty sure we'd rather money be generated by the club rather than its owner as there will come a time when we can no longer rely on his generosity.

That's exactly how I see it Rob.
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Re: Checkatrade Draw

Postby STAGS FOR LIFE » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:51 pm

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